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BNW Fantasy Civ Ideas - Open to Edification and Suggestions

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by chrissifniotis, May 7, 2013.

  1. chrissifniotis

    chrissifniotis GoogleCiv 2.0.0 coming...

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    A few weeks ago while playing the Star Trek mod on Civ4, I thought how awesome it would be playing it on Civ5. So as I do I start jotting down civ ideas for the races and empires from the mod using the concepts from Brave New World; for example
    The Borg has Resistance is Futile - No Research can be made; instead gain one technology upon capturing an enemy System and 50% chance from an enemy Starship.
    The Devore has Gaharey - Systems suffer no Cultural Pressure.
    The Kazon has Clan Infighting - Domestic Trade Routes cannot be formed; instead Intergalactic Trade Routes also produce Food and Production. Etcetera, etcetera.

    That got me thinking about rather than making a whole scenario mod for Civ5 *cough* given my utter lack of modding experience *cough*, float ideas for other fantasy/sci-fi civs from books, TV, games and other forms of popular culture instead. So, in the style of Pouakai's and MARDUK80's Leaders Wanted thread, I'm both posting these civ ideas here for critique and edification and opening the floor to anyone else who likes to suggest any of their own fantasy civs, but since I'm not a mod here it may look more sloppy. :p
    I've looked into the history of video games to find the most popular games of their day and produce one reasonable civilization from each of them to start off; I thought it best to stick with only one civ per game to prevent any overlap between the fantasy races from fantasy games such as Age of Wonders, Master of Magic and Warcraft, all of which are represented here; the end result here is to see each of these civs work as mods for Civilization V. The following posts will highlight my fantasy civs and alot space for any suggestions for other fantasy civilizations, eleven games have one civilization representing them at the moment; Age of Mythology, Age of Wonders, Dune, Final Fantasy, Heroes of Might and Magic, the Legend of Zelda, Master of Magic, Myst, Starcraft, Super Mario Bros. and Warcraft.
     
  2. chrissifniotis

    chrissifniotis GoogleCiv 2.0.0 coming...

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    Chris Sifniotis' Fantasy Civilizations
    These entries are subject to change as more information comes out for Brave New World as well as the release of the expansion. The Age of Wonders entry is subject to change as more information comes out for Age of Wonders 3 as well as the release of both BNW and AoW3.

    the Atlanteans (from Age of Mythology) - Kastor
    Poseidon's Protection - Coastal Cities produce 1 Happiness. Sea Resources and Fishing Boats produce 1 Production.
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    Unique Unit 1 - Chieroballista, replacing the Catapult;
    85 Production/170 Faith or 450 Gold
    Available at Mathematics
    8 Combat Strength
    9 Ranged Strength
    3 Range
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    May Not Melee Attack
    +200% vs Cities
    No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
    Must Set Up to Ranged Attack
    +50% vs Melee units

    Unique Unit 2 - Fire Siphon, replacing the Cannon;
    185 Production/370 Faith or 700 Gold
    Available at Chemistry
    10 Combat Strength
    24 Ranged Strength
    1 Range
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    May Not Melee Attack
    +200% vs Cities
    No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
    Must Set Up to Ranged Attack
    Limited Visibility
    Cover I
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    (( :c5capital: ATLANTIS ))
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    the Elves (from Age of Wonders) - Julia
    Peace Keeper Skill - Quests completed for City-States generate double Influence. Foot units gain the Woodsman Promotion.
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    Unique Unit - Treeman, replacing the Trebuchet;
    105 Production/210 Faith or 400 Gold
    Available at Physics
    16 Combat Strength
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    +200% vs Cities
    No Defensive Terrain Bonus

    Unique Building - Secret Glade, replacing the Garden;
    105 Production/500 Gold
    Available at Theology
    1 Maintenance
    +25% Great Person points
    1 Faith for every Forest tile.
    Must by built next to a Forest tile.
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    (( :c5capital: ALDOR ))
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    the Imperium (from Dune) - Paul Atreides
    Spice Melange Trade - Cities built on or next to Desert tiles produce 1 Melange Luxury Resource. International Trade Routes produce double Gold for Cities with Melange.
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    Unique Unit 1 - Sardaukar, replacing the Marine;
    400 Production/1140 Gold
    Available at Penicillin
    72 Combat Strength
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    Amphibious
    Extra Sight While Embarked
    Embarkation with Defense
    'Salusa Secunsua Training' (+15% Combat Strength when adjacent to another Sardaukar)

    Unique Unit 2 - Stone Burner, replacing the Nuclear Missile;
    1000 Production/2270 Gold
    Available at Advanced Ballistics
    2 Movement
    1 Uranium
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    50% Evasion chance
    'J-Radiation' (After detonation Land units within a 3 tile radius suffer -1 Movement and -33% Combat Strength)
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    (( :c5capital: CALADAN ))
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    Gaia (from Final Fantasy 7) - Cloud Strife
    Duality and Rebellion - Occupied Cities rebel twice as long and allow access to one of the previous Civilization's Unique Elements. Occupied City-States do not rebel.
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    Unique Unit - Summoner, replacing the Scout
    30 Production/30 Faith or 150 Gold
    5 Combat
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    Ignores Terrain Cost
    'Summon Eidolon' (Double Combat Strength when Defending)
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    (( :c5capital: MIDGAR ))
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    Enroth (from Heroes of Might and Magic) - Morglin Ironfist
    Knight Alignment - The Great General bonus multiplies for every Great General within two tiles of a unit. (In normal gameplay the Great General bonus doesn't overlap, if two generals were within 2 tiles of a unit the bonus remained at 15%. Enroth generals overlap their bonuses.)
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    Unique Unit 1 - Paladin, replacing the Longswordsman;
    105 Production/210 Faith or 400 Gold
    Available at Steel
    18 Combat Strength
    2 Movement
    NO Iron required
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    May Attack Twice

    Unique Unit 2 - Crusader, replacing the Musketman;
    130 Production/260 Faith or 500 Gold
    Available at Gunpowder
    24 Combat Strength
    3 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    May Attack Twice
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    (( :c5capital: GATEWAY(?) ))
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    Hyrule (from the Legend of Zelda) - Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
    Sacred Realm of the Triforce - All Religious buildings produce 1 Happiness. The Palace produces 25% Faith.
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    Unique Unit - Hylian Guard, replacing the Pikeman;
    90 Production/180 Faith or 370 Gold
    Available at Civil Service
    16 Combat Strength
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    +50% vs Mounted
    Near Capital Bonus

    Unique Building - Hyrulean Temple, replacing the Temple;
    110 Production/550 Gold
    Available at Philosophy
    2 Gold Maintenance
    2 Faith
    1 Culture for every other Religion in the City.
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    (( :c5capital: HYRULE CASTLE TOWN ))
    -/- Continues in next post -/-
     
  3. chrissifniotis

    chrissifniotis GoogleCiv 2.0.0 coming...

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    Before I do continue Final Fantasy was very difficult to complete, unlike most other games I know and love to play the Final Fantasy series has no continuity; instead of 14 games spanning across a grand story arc, FF is 14 games with their own unique stories and universes. The Unique Ability and Elements were designed to reflect the general similarities found in the series; the use of airships and summons, and the rebellion theme. I went with VII because I seem to be more familiar to it, since the games are entirely separate to each other that can be changed depending on the public opinion.
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    the Nomads (from Master of Magic) - Jafar
    Alchemy Retort - Strategic Resources produce 1 Gold. All units gain Magical Weaons, making them 10% stronger. (Bonus represented by both the 'Magical Weapons' and 'Magical Missiles' bonuses) ('Magical Weapons' = 10% Combat Strength. 'Magical Missiles' = 10% Ranged Strength.)
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    Unique Unit 1 - Ranger, replacing the Composite Bowman;
    75 Production/150 Faith or 320 Gold
    Available at Construction
    8 Combat Strength
    12 Ranged Strength
    2 Range
    3 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    Ignores Terrain Cost

    Unique Unit 2 - Griffin, replacing the Knight;
    135 Production/270 Production or 500 Gold
    Available at Chivalry
    23 Combat Strength
    4 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
    Can Move After Attacking
    -33% vs Cities
    Hovering Unit
    All Tiles Cost 1 Move
    +50% when Attacking
    'First Strike' (Unit attacks first when Attacking or Defending)
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    (( :c5capital: ))
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    the D'ni (from Myst) - Kerath
    Art of Writing - Free Great Prophet upon discovering Writing. Writers produce 2 Faith.
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    Unique Great Person; Age Writer, replacing the Great Writer
    Can create a Great Work (Age) (an Age acts as Art, Music or Literature Great Works. Ages produce additional yields.)
    Can create a Korfah V'ja (Adds the Culture value of the last 8 turns and starts a 4 turn Golden Age.)

    Spoiler List of Age Writers and Ages :
    (the parentheses are the yields added to the 2 Culture and 2 Tourism from Great Works)
    Aitrus - Gedemet (1 Happiness, 1 Tourism)
    Ar'tenen - Yakul (2 Culture)
    Atrus - Releeshahn (1 Faith, 1 Happiness)
    Gehn - Riven (1 Production, 1 Science)
    Judge of Yahvo* - Pento (1 Culture, 5 XP to all Land units)
    Kadish - Ahnonay (1 Production, 1 Faith)
    Katran - Serenia (1 Culture, 1 Faith)
    Ri'neref - D'ni (1 Production, 1 Science, 1 Faith, 1 Happiness)
    Ti'ana - Myst (1 Science, 1 Defense)
    Veovis - Ederat (2 Faith)
    Yeesha - Relto (1 Science, 1 Culture)
    *= not sure whether to add the Judges of Yahvo


    Unique Building; Common Library, replacing the Library
    75 Production/400 Gold
    Available at Writing
    1 Gold Maintenance
    2 Culture
    1 Science for every 2 Citizens.
    1 Great Work Slot (Age)
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    (( :c5capital: AE'GURA ))
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    Terran (from Starcraft) - Jim Ranor
    Confederacy of Man - Domestic Trade Routes from the Capital produce Gold in the Capital. 1 Gold for every 4 Citizens in a City.
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    Unique Unit 1 - Banshee, replacing the Helicopter Gunship;
    425 Production/1190 Gold
    Available at Computers
    67 Combat Strength
    6 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    All Tiles Cost 1 Move
    Hovering Unit
    +100% vs Tanks
    No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
    Unable to Capture Cities
    Siege I
    +50% vs Anti-Air units

    Unique Unit 2 - Hellion, replacing the Mechanized Infantry;
    375 Production/750 Faith or 1090 Gold
    Available at Mobile Tactics
    98 Combat Strength
    6 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    Infernal Flamethrower (+10% vs Foot units)
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    (( :c5capital: TARSONIS ))
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    Mushroom Kingdom (from Super Mario Bros.) - Peach Toadstool
    Multicolored Coins - Cities with Aluminium, Copper, Gold, Iron or Silver within its City Radius produce Gold as well from all Domestic Trade Routes.
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    Unique Unit - Toad Guard, replacing the Spearman;
    50 Production/100 Faith or 245 Gold
    Available at Bronze Working
    12 Strength
    2 Movement
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    +50% vs Mounted
    -33% when Defending

    Unique Improvement - Toad House;
    Available at Chivalry
    Instantly heals and grants the Item Reward bonus when a unit lands on a Toad House. (Item Reward = Double Combat Strength for 5 turns)
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    (( :c5capital: TOAD TOWN ))
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    World of Trophies (from Super Smash Bros.) - Master Hand
    Final Smash - After gaining a new Level, Melee Units double Combat Strength for the subsequent battle.
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    Unique Unit - Fighting Alloy, replacing the Giant Death Robot;
    510 Production/1020 Faith or 1450 Gold
    Available at Nuclear Fusion
    150 Combat Strength
    5 Movement
    NO Uranium Required
    -Promotions and Bonuses-
    No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
    Can Move After Attacking

    Unique Building - Battlefield, replacing the Stadium;
    500 Production/1350 Gold
    Available at Refrigeration
    2 Maintenance
    4 Happiness
    15 XP to all Units built in the City
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    ((:c5capital:))
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    Stormwind (from World of Warcraft) - Anduin Lothar
    Triumphalism - Earn Great People 20% faster. Melee and Gunpowder units gain the Great Generals I bonus.
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    Unique Unit - Broadswordsman, replacing the Longswordsman;
    120 Production/240 Faith or 260 Gold
    Available at Steel
    24 Combat Strength
    2 Movement
    1 Iron Required

    Unique Building - Church, replacing the Temple;
    100 Production/500 Gold
    Available at Philosophy
    2 Gold Maintenance
    3 Faith
    Mounted units built in the City gain the Paladin Champion bonus (Paladin Champion = gain Faith equal to the Combat Strength of the killed unit)
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    (( :c5capital: STORMWIND CITY ))
     
  4. chrissifniotis

    chrissifniotis GoogleCiv 2.0.0 coming...

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    Fantasy Civilization Suggestions

    11 Lord of the Rings Civilizations from DudewiththeFood
    • Gondor - Elessar
    • Rohan - Eorl
    • Mirkwood - Thranduil
    • Lorein - Galadriel
    • High Elves - Elrond
    • Dwarves - Dain Ironfoot
    • Mordor - Sauron
    • Isengard - Saruman
    • Moria - Balrog
    • Angmar - Witch-King
    • Dale - Bard

    2 Game of Thrones Civilizations from sukritact
    • House Lannister - Tywin
      Rains of Castamere - Receive double Tribute from Demands to the City-State at half the Influence cost. Receive Gold when a Building is built first in the Capital.
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      No Unique Elements.
    • House Stark - Robb
      Winter is Coming - Enemy units suffer Attrition within your borders and increase Great General emergence when killed by Attrition. Great Generals gain the Direwolf bonus, adding a random bonus to the Great General's effects.
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      No Unique Elements.
     
  5. chrissifniotis

    chrissifniotis GoogleCiv 2.0.0 coming...

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    Science Fiction Civilization Suggestions

    the Trolls of Homestuck from Snes
    the Trolls - Her Imperious Condescension
    Hemochromatic Castes - Production, Gold, Science, and Culture output of specialists and unemployed citizens increased by 1.
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    Unique Unit - Threshecutioner
    Unique Building - Legislacerator Courtblock
     
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    I'm not understanding how this is related to BNW...
     
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    This thread should be closed
     
  8. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    It is two months until release. They aren't going to implement any new civs, new scenarios, or new features that aren't already designed for BNW. At the time this expansion was announced, it was already too late for any changes.

    This thread belongs in the Ideas & Suggestions forum with all the other pipe dreams.
     
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    seconded
     
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    sound like great Ideas for mods really like the The D'ni ,TARSONIS and STORMWIND CITY civs
     
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    Moderator Action: Thread moved to Ideas & Suggestions
     
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    LOTR civs

    Gondor
    Elessar
    The White Tree
    After the first golden age, +2 culture in the capital and +5 defence in all cities.
    Citadel Guard (replaces Pikeman)
    +1 strength and +20% bonus in friendly lands.
    Swan Knight (replaces Knight)
    +4 strength but require iron.

    Rohan
    Eorl
    Realm of the Horse-Lords
    Double horse resources and mounted units start with 30 exp.
    Rohirrim (replaces Knight)
    +1 move and cheaper to build.
    Helmingas (replaces Crossbowman)
    Much stronger but require iron.

    Mirkwood
    Thranduil
    Oropher's Chosen
    Forest tiles act as open land for sight, movement and range.
    Sentinel (replaces Crossbowman)
    Hidden to non-adjacent enemy units and can move after firing.
    Hunting Lodge (UI)
    +1 food and +1 gold and production on forest.

    Lorien
    Galadriel
    The Mirror of Galadriel
    While at war, visible tiles are extended by 3 from borders.
    Marchwarden (replaces Longswordsman)
    Don't require iron but have big penalties in foreign lands.
    Mallorn Orchard (replace Garden)
    +1 culture and +1 happiness.

    High Elves
    Elrond
    The Last Homely House
    +1 culture and gold in the capital for every ongoing diplomatic treaty.
    Eldar Warrior (replaces Longwordsman)
    Slightly weaker but can also attack with a ranged attack of 10.
    White Pillar (UI)
    +2 sight and +2 culture.

    Dwarves
    Dain Ironfoot
    Durin's Folk
    Can move through mountains
    Iron Guard (replaces Longswordsman)
    Much stronger but only moves 1.
    Sprinter (replaces Horseman)
    Doesn't require horses but slightly slower.

    Mordor
    Sauron
    The Black Land
    25% less unit maintenance and x1.75 production in stagnant or starving cities.
    Morgul Orc (replaces Swordsman)
    Doesn't require iron but is weaker.
    Fell Beast (Replaces Knight)
    Much stronger, doesn't need iron, can withdraw but can't take cities and is very expensive.

    Isengard
    Saruman
    Fords of Isen
    +50% bonus when attacking over a river, iron produces +2 production.
    Uruk-Hai (replaces Longswordsman)
    Get a bonus when attacking and +1 movement.
    Dunlending (replaces Pikeman)
    Small bonus against cavalry but double speed over hills.

    Moria
    Balrog
    (not sure what to call it)
    Gain UAs of any enemy civs. +1 gold in occupied cities.
    Cave Troll (replaces Longswordsman)
    Stronger and don't need iron but only have 40 hitpoints.
    Snaga (replaces Pikeman)
    No bonus against cavalry, weaker but very cheap.

    Angmar
    Witch-King
    From the Frozen North
    Tundra and Snow tiles produce +1 food and production.
    Gundabad Warg (replaces Knight)
    Faster and don't require horses but cause unhappiness when garrisoned.
    Nazgul (replaces Great General)
    Causes fear (-20%) in nearby enemies and if attacked, respawn in the capital.

    Dale
    Bard
    People of the Lake-Town
    Lakes provide +1 gold and +2 production. Cities on rivers provide +1 culture.
    Barding (replaces Crossbowman)
    +1 range, stronger in melee but slightly more expensive.
    (Something I haven't thought of yet)

    I'd do Harad and Rhun if I could think of leaders for them.
     
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    Thank you. Since I'm not familiar with most of the games I'm not leaving it up to myself with the details, which is why I'm letting anyone who's interested to plug in any new and relevant input.
    Of the three the D'ni is the one I'm most proud of really since I play a lot of Myst and Uru and by contrast don't have Starcraft or WoW. I'll admit when I first heard about the division of the Artist professions the first thing that popped in my head was Age Writer.
     
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    Anybody read Homestuck?

     
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    I haven't, and having a look at it it looks kinda cool.
     
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    [BUMP!]
    The 11 fantasy civs have been updated; the UUs and UBs now have a Gold purchase cost and the tech required to build them, including the Toad House for the Mushroom Kingdom. A few of the UAs have been revised to make them more unique - Atlantis now gets more production from the sea than faith to use to build its powerful siege, the Elves from Age of Wonders have a more unique City-State trait than the Greek carbon copy it had, the same for the Imperium and Enroth. Most importantly Gaia from Final Fantasy VII has one weak unique unit instead of two to balance out the fact that it gains unique elements from other civs.
    Also a twelfth civ is up there, drawn mostly from its third iteration Super Smash Bros. is represented here; ruled by the Master Hand the World of Trophies is a very militaristic civ.
    The early game is dominated by melee units with the unique ability to use the Final Smash, when a melee unit reaches a new level - gain a new promotion - the strength of the unit doubles until it engages in a battle, whatever the outcome, after that battle the strength returns to normal. It provides a devastating first strike in a battle that severely or mortally wounds the opposition immediately and then follows up with a unit at nearly full strength.
    As the game progresses melee units become stronger and stronger until eventually phased out by the advent of Gunpowder and gunpowder units, rendering the UA no longer available, having dealt a lot of damage early on. The late game provides the unique elements of the World of Trophies with the Fighting Alloy unique unit and Battlefield unique building. The Fighting Alloy replaces the Giant Death Robot; it has the same strength, moves and weaknesses but is cheaper to build or purchase and does not require Uranium to build. The Battlefield replaces the Stadium, it provides 2 extra Happiness and gives new land units 15XP. A Fighting Alloy from a city with a Battlefield has the edge of being quicker and easier to build and starts with extra experience to earn it at least one promotion from the start.
     

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