Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Birdjaguar, Mar 26, 2019.
I copied these posts from the other thread. I think this is a topic worthy of its own thread.
you forgot my post!
Could be; there were a lot of them. Please repost it yourself.
And now for a picture of an Evil Boomer.
Millennial-GENz cusp reporting in to say, it ain’t something special about “boomers”. They were and are just as victimized by the systems that came into existence during their haydays.
I find it disturbing that stereotyping people's behaviour, association, and guilt by demographic has taken new and bizarre turns and forms now that overt racism, antisemitism, sexism, and homophobia are publicly denounced.
Gotta stereotype and/or bash some group.......
There is lots of blame to go around if that is the goal. The boomers drove US culture forward in an unprecedented way, but to fully understand what happened, you have to understand the history of the past 70 years. Surprising things happen, but change happens slowly and usually has deeper roots that we suspect. 9-11 was a surprise, but its roots go back many years. All the things boomers are accused of also have deep roots.
But, the problem I'm pointing out is that you speak of them as a single bloc - like most stereotyping and collective blaming of the sort of I'm referring to. I assure you, my mother had no significant part in this, despite being part of the "boomer" generation.
This feels like a pity party sort of. Fwiw not all boomers are bad (obviously), but they did usher in the GOP to power on their watch. They have recently doubled down on that bet, which in the last ten years hasn't become just counterproductive to all the cultural things that were good or better about the boomers, but has become vindictive and spiteful to anyone who'd continue the good work boomers did do in their lifetimes.
So yea there is some resentment about the path the last ten years or so and yes it does have deep roots, but boomers have been the power base for the entire time.
Why is it so hard for people to refer to individuals, or specific, definitive groups of deliberate motivation, and not whole sweeping, generalized statements about demographic groups as highly-unrealistic unified opinion blocs? Why are so many people so IMPAIRED in perspective nowadays?
Hyperbole is fun! I mean if I sit here and hedge on every statement trying to make everyone feel ok about the groups we are all in nothing will ever be said. As it is I thought I was being pretty diplomatic this time. I mean the first go around it was pretty much just flaming the entire generation.
It’s not like there’s something wrong with any kind of general analysis of broad classes of people. But specifically the generation known as the baby boomers haven’t really earned the reputation they get. It’s not like they uniquely were responsible for any magnification of the pre existing social ills, in fact during the 60s-80s there was significant improvement to many problems in the world.
Well the Millennials will probably get their revenge in a few years and put the boomers off into a nursing home, if they havent already shuffled off from the lack of healthcare
Instead of pontificating on how evil a generation is, wouldn't it be more productive to try to uncover why they did things that you have deemed evil? Did they even have an idea as to what they were doing and what kind of consequences their actions would have? Evil is just a cop out word.
Here's my take on it:
Around 1955 Satan ascended from his nether realm after a 20 year hiatus and touched all the little boomerlings, yes even the PoC and LGBTQ+ ones, with his accursed staff of patriarchal white supremacy, that was crafted in the fires of mount Boom by his master craftsman and impeccable liar mr. Shicklgruber. In this Manichean world of ours, with his staff the dark one corrupted the souls of millions to insidiously and consciously work against the only true vision of the world and to usher in a 1000 years of Republican party power. Global warming was also on the Archfiend's agenda, because transforming the Earth to more closely resemble the Adversary's kingdom, would allow his imps and troglodytes to seize ultimate power and to lower the marginal tax rate of the wealthiest percentiles. The pure ones, touched by Mohammed and Jesus themselves, were at first able to resist the curse, these were the hippies, but eventually they too had to succumb to Lucifer's sinister powers.
I just discovered i am a "Xennial". Somewhere beetween X and Milennial. Should i hate my parents?
I only quoted a few of my posts from the original location, but I am anything but monolithical about Boomers. And I am on the leading edge of boomerism!
Wow. So much hostility. Apparently I should be praising and worshiping Jason Kenney instead of having a pleasant chat with a campaign worker representing the NDP candidate (she phoned tonight to ask if they had my support in the coming provincial election and I educated her on a few issues pertaining to disabled voters so the candidate can address them at an upcoming all-candidates' forum).
I am apparently also a science-illiterate corporation-worshiper who is glad that my childhood home was literally paved over (it was a beautiful semi-wild area with seasonal wetlands and an abundance of wild animals and woods).
FYI: A lot of the women who are part of the Raging Grannies are of the boomer generation (they're left-wing ladies who take part in various protests from environmental issues to anti-nuclear to supporting a Canadian bird biologist who was suspended from his job in 2015 for singing a song critical of our then-Prime Minister, Stephen Harper).
What a lot of evil people we are.
Also pretty hypocritical, especially when it comes to global warming. I am 100% sure that by the time I, a millenial, was 20, and by the time my father or mother were 20 I had contributed tenfold the amount of carbon to the atmosphere than they did. I don't think the situation is much more different for the rest of the millenials and gen Xers that would like to externalize the blame unto someone else. We are all sinners and throwing rocks comes easy.
When you are young, you have your whole life ahead of you
And I think the way you feel about your "now" has much to do with how you feel about your future
When the baby boomer generation was young, there was a feeling of doom from the cold war risks up to talking about wanting no children ourselves, Vietnam "proving" that the establishment could not be trusted 100% with the nuclear button, and at the same time an enormous optimism from the growth of everything around you and within you. The sky the limit. And for everybody his own sky to pursuit.
On the one hand bound by the traditional respect for the older generation, generating also that so visible and tangible growing prosperity and progression projects like the Apollo program etc, SF, cartoons like the Flintstones & the Jetsons, etc.
on the other hand unchained from the older generation because we were with so many, we were better educated, we were the first generation where it was normal that both male asfemale were fully educated...
to put that sharp: with the enthusiasm of the youth... we were going to do everything better than our parental generation.. up to the point of plainly feeling superior !
And as young teenagers not yet having many real material possessions, that feeling of superiority started with the immaterial stuff: the music, the happenings, the experiences, another way of thinking & socialising, etc. And why did we boys have long hair ? Just to be different ? For sure... but long hair does look much better when your are young, than when you are old. Look at us... we have something you oldies don't have anymore: we have our youth
OPTIMISM for the future, and especially for your own personal future.
Has the young generation now in general that same feeling of optimism ? I think not.
But are the reasons that there is less optimism caused by the baby boom generation ?
I think that the baby boom generation was just by accident very "lucky" !
And I can imagine very well that the current generation would like to have that same feeling of optimism, and that free ride on a wave of also significant material progress.
The provoking question:
how much of blaming the baby boomers is also caused by having envy on that optimism during the youth of baby boomers ?
I cannot "give", as an material object, that feeling of optimism to my daughters !
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