1. We have added the ability to collapse/expand forum categories and widgets on forum home.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Photobucket has changed its policy concerning hotlinking images and now requires an account with a $399.00 annual fee to allow hotlink. More information is available at: this link.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. All Civ avatars are brought back and available for selection in the Avatar Gallery! There are 945 avatars total.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. To make the site more secure, we have installed SSL certificates and enabled HTTPS for both the main site and forums.
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Civ6 is released! Order now! (Amazon US | Amazon UK | Amazon CA | Amazon DE | Amazon FR)
    Dismiss Notice
  6. Dismiss Notice
  7. Forum account upgrades are available for ad-free browsing.
    Dismiss Notice

[BTS] BOTM 123 - Final Spoiler (game over or abandoned)

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Game of the Month' started by kcd_swede, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Chieftain GOTM Staff

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2007
    Messages:
    6,598
    Location:
    Stockholm's B.F.C.

    BOTM 123 - Shaka Zulu - Final Spoiler





    So how did your game after 1AD go?



    Reading Requirements

    Stop! If you are participating in BOTM 120 then you MUST NOT read this thread unless
    • You have submitted your entry

    Posting Restrictions
    • Do not post any savegame file from the game. Discussions and screenshots are fine but not actual games.
     
  2. notorious_banjo

    notorious_banjo Chieftain

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Well I don't usually play on emperor, but was happy with my start (decided on 2S). Had Ghandi and Zara on their heels early and finished them off just before 1AD. Feeling fine I though I could take a few Malinese cities, but the Germans jumped in against me and were having none of it. Scared of having a two front war, I ran back to my home, got in a boat and went to explore North America (too bad Christopher Columbus didn't know the map ahead of time). Started to lose the tech lead around Civil Service (already:confused: ) After settling a few cities in Australia and North America, I decided it would be a good idea to try to militarily entice my neighbors to trade me some techs as I was behind. Before I could get around to declaring war on Mansa, my 'friend' Genghis declared war on me and 10 turns later Mansa pulled a religions victory. Majority of votes came from the Germans, I think they has been drinking.

    It was my first GOTM submission. Played a few in the past but have not participated on the forum. Thanks for putting it together, it was fun.
     
  3. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Chieftain GOTM Staff

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2007
    Messages:
    6,598
    Location:
    Stockholm's B.F.C.
    Welcome to the games of the month, and thanks for telling us about your game. I hope you enjoyed it, and when the games finish, we have a playback tool to directly compare with other players. That, and asking advice is a great way to improve your game quickly.:goodjob:
     
  4. notorious_banjo

    notorious_banjo Chieftain

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2016
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    I am looking forward to hearing how other games went. The playback tool sounds like a great way to find some efficiencies in ones game. Thanks for the warm welcome :thumbsup:
     
  5. nocho

    nocho Chieftain

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    5,753
    Location:
    Barcelona
    I had a not so fast religious victory in 1140AD. I got beaten to theology by 1 turn by Mansa, but built the Apostolic Palace faster in hindu. Converted to confu which was the majority religion, but had a bit of a hard time spreading hindu, a lot of failures all over the place. When I finally had it spread to everybody, including August which was Germany's colony on the separate continent of Africa I worked Frederick to friendly with shared trade and shared technology (and religion of course). A bit frustratingly didn't have enough overall cities in hindu though, despite all my on-shore cities in hindu. As I kept spreading it to AI cities (still with a lot of failures), the total amount of votes required kept getting up. I actually have no idea how the total amount of votes required is calculated, I guess it must be some percentage of total world population? I didn't win the first vote for a lack of overall votes, despite Germany voting for me. As the second vote came up, I switched to hindu just after the vote and bribed my friend Frederick into hindu as well. That worked, as now both our votes counted double. Wasn't quite sure if it would work as in the religious screen Germany would now be my opponent instead of Gandhi (a mongol vassal with just two cities, but in hindu), but as the vote had been cast all was fine. :jesus::worship:

    Edit: I just checked, I could've won the first vote 10 turns earlier if had switched to hindu and brought Fred along doing the same. Something learned!
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2017
  6. DynamicSpirit

    DynamicSpirit Fear him of the pink tie Moderator GOTM Staff

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2005
    Messages:
    5,121
    Location:
    London, UK
    What a totally evil, evil map!

    I settled 2S to get the plains hill and 2 cows. The scout quickly got eaten by a bear, but not before he'd discovered we were basically completely boxed in by Zara and Gandhi. 2nd city to pick up all the food on the East, built with a size 2 capital working 2 cows to get it out before I lost the spot. 3rd city South for the wheat, and 4th on the island South for the horses. And that was basically it. I took advantage of the high production in the capital to build an early Stonehenge and Great Lighthouse, and then had little choice but to axe-rush the neighbours. So I declared on Zara, who promptly brought both Frederick AND Genghis into the war. This must've been around 2000 BCish, and from that time until around 1000ADish, I seemed to be constantly at war - usually against 3 opponents at the same time. I dread to think what my science rate was, but I didn't get to civil service until - if I recall correctly - sometime after 500 AD, and I didn't even have construction then. I was basically wearing down opponents by sheer force of numbers of axes and swords (which I have to admit, turned out to be more effective than I expected, even if it was a very expensive strategy for unit costs)

    And the worst of it was - even when you axe-rushed your opponents, there was still no sodding food! Almost nothing but plains everywhere. I mean, there's only so many plains that a single grassland corn will feed. I don't think I've ever built so many farms and so few cottages. The only thing that kept my science going at all was the great lighthouse, and that sometime around 500AD I built the Colossus - in the capital. Using the capital as a wonder-farm isn't usually the best strategy but, needs must...

    Actually I tell a lie. There was some good lush grassland - around Germany. I hunted high and low for a place I could make a decent capital before deciding that Berlin (captured around 500ADish) was the best option. Only trouble was - Huayna Capac had built the Apostolic Palace and had clearly decided that Frederick was his friend - because he kept proposing votes to give German cities back to the Germans. I couldn't afford having +5 unhappiness added every 10 turns for defying resolutions, so had figured the least bad approach was to vote 'no' and then when the city got reassigned, promptly declare war to take it back. Usually that works well - but when the city being reassigned is 3/4 of the way through building a palace ... Ouch! After that episode, I gave up on Berlin as a capital, and just stuck with a wonder-producing almost-no-science capital in Ulundi.

    Finally - around 1000 AD - breakthrough. My lands now covered amost everywhere East of Berlin, apart from the Corner where Gandhi still lived. Somehow I'd become big enough to pay for the army and science suddenly started to shoot up. That's the first point that I started to draw ahead of the AI. I was weary enough of constant fighting that I took advantage of the situation, and just started building libraries, markets, banks and so on everywhere. This meant that around 1500 AD I was able to declare war again, but this time with cannon and infantry against - well, mainly longbows and Mongolian keshiks. I removed Mongol from the starting continent, then then - now with tanks - turned my attention to Africa (mainly Germany), and finally Europe (mainly Incan, his riflemen against my modern armour. I like that kind of war :evil:). By the time it ended, I had about 94% of the World's population. Frederick was my vassal, with one size 1 city in Florida, Huayna and Genghis also had a couple of cities in the new world.

    Oh yes, I won the space race in 1886AD. Probably not going to get any medals for that kind of date, by hey I won the super-evil, fight-your-way-out-of-the-cage, no-food-anywhere map. And a base score of 8153 isn't too bad :)
     
  7. Xcalibrator

    Xcalibrator Ultraviolet Catastrophe

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Messages:
    2,092
    Location:
    Boston
    Thanks for the game, kcd. :) I enojyed it and submitted but couldn't invest enough time to finish. I was going for Space, continuing my strategy of settling islands and then North America. South America didn't seem worth the trouble and the only two cities there in 1635 when I quit were barb. The focus on settling delayed mainland hostilities until quite late--I think I attacked Gandhi around 1000 AD (capping him with a couple cities), then Joao (wiped out), and the German guy (about to cap him after taking all his mainland cities). My American cities concentrated on growth and hammers, and levees were very nice on this map--Delhi was awesome. I should have warred against the AI much sooner, but peaceful expansion and grabbing land before the other guys can is more satisfying to me. Anyway, I figure if I'd continued I would have won a Space victory around, oh, 1885 with a base score of 8154. ;)
     

Share This Page