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[BTS] BOTM 184: Cyrus, Immortal - Final Spoiler - Game Submitted

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Game of the Month' started by DynamicSpirit, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. DynamicSpirit

    DynamicSpirit Fear him of the pink tie Moderator GOTM Staff

    Dec 23, 2005
    London, UK
    BOTM 184: Cyrus, Immortal - Final Spoiler - Game Submitted

    Use this thread to tell us what happened in your game, particularly anything after 1AD

    Did you win?

    Reading Requirements
    If you are participating in BOTM 184 then you MUST NOT read this thread unless
    • You have submitted your entry

    Posting Restrictions
    • Do not post any savegame file from the game. Discussions and screenshots are fine but not actual games.
  2. nocho

    nocho Deity

    Mar 10, 2009
    Fun game, got conquest in 1260AD. Maybe I could have gotten it earlier, if I hadn't slightly overexpanded in the late BCs and kept my tech rate a bit higher up. In any case, the Greeks with their resourceless capital had the audacity to declare on me which resulted in Alex being knee capped with trebs and elephants. Mansa cowardly offered to be another vassal and then the Japanese were added to the empire as well. Next victim was my budd buddy Isabel with knights added to the mix. Cuirs then also vassaled the Chinese and finally the Russians. The game felt a bit easier than immortal, don't know if on this map type the AIs suffer more than normal to keep up.
  3. MarleysGh0st

    MarleysGh0st Prince

    Mar 12, 2008
    This was a game where the AI seemed to maneuver well to frustrate my plans. At least for a while...

    I decided to try for a Cuir rush. Most of the AI were Jewish. MM was Hindu, and disliked by everyone. Isabella was Buddhist and seemed like the most immediate threat to me, so when I started my golden age in 820 I switched to Buddhism to stay on good terms with her.

    My plans started reasonably well, although my first GM was followed by a GS that I didn't want. Catherine and QSH went to war with MM in 960. I started sending my GM on a trade mission toward Alexander, when he attacked me in 1060. Why? He was only cautious with me, while he was annoyed with MM. Couldn't he have just joined the dogpile? :mad:

    So, I pulled back my GM and used it with the GS for another golden age. While I did get cuirs, I didn't have the luxury (or the gold) to have built up a stack of HA's to immediately upgrade. Still, the war went well and Alex capitulated to me in 1260. In the meantime, Isabella had attacked Tokugawa and QSH had built the AP and then passed a motion for all its members to attack MM. (That was everyone but Isabella.) I took one of his cities that intruded into my territory, but then he capitulated to Tokugawa, thus joining the war against Isabella.

    I decided this was an opportune time to take down top-scorer Isabella, so in 1320 I converted to Judaism and declared war (along with my vassal Alex) against Izzy. Four against one should be easy work!

    But on that same turn, Tokugawa/MM make peace with her. :mad:

    OK, my attack pushed forward and I captured three Spanish cities, including Barcelona, which had seven wonders. And then in 1430, Toku/MM declared war on me and Alex, with a large Japanese stack heading towards my capital! :mad:

    I immediately make peace with Izzy, turn my forces around and fight off that stack, although the territory I'd taken from Greece becomes a bloody battlefield, as Thebes changes hands in multiple attacks and counterattacks. Toku worries me when he gets cannons, but I capture his only source of iron. Catherine joins the war in my side.

    But at the same time, the Spanish cities I'd captured are revolting and I'm afraid they'll rejoin Spain if they revolt again. I also don't want Izzy attacking before Tokugawa is finished. I agree to her demand for a tech to buy a peace treaty. Mali is conquered in 1600 (two cities went to me, two to Catherine). I capture Kyoto and Tokugawa capitulates to me in 1615.

    I sign a Defense Pact with Catherine, as I shift my forces back towards Spain. Now that Catherine owns the Hindu holy city, she converts! That weakens our alliance, but it makes my hopes for a religious victory a little stronger, once Spain is dealt with. I try provoking her into war by demanding all her gold, but she submits to the demand. Oops, 10 more turns of peace.

    When that peace treaty expires, I attack in 1750. This offensive goes smoothly. Catherine is at WHEOORN, but she doesn't declare against either side. I'm elected to lead the AP. Isabella capitulates in 1812. I spread Judaism to one of her captured cities and give it back to her. Now a religious victory can be put to a vote, although I'm still a few votes short of victory. I'll need a few more missionaries.

    But in the meantime, Catherine has built the UN and I'm easily elected Secretary General. The next UN vote come up one turn before the AP vote, and my three vassals provide the margin for a UN Diplomatic Victory in 1826. My first immortal level victory, if I'm not mistaken. :smug:
  4. Frederiksberg

    Frederiksberg Deity

    Apr 28, 2006
    Denmark, GMT+1
    Retired 700 AD. Had 19 cities and a clear tech lead and was about to start some wars with pults and maces when I checked the calendar and realized there was no time left :rolleyes:.

    Found it tricky to balance expansion and finances. Very late (425 AD) mids fail gold contributed to these calamities. Other than that it was a great map for expansion - in particular with an Imperialistic leader. Thanks for the game, will try to finish next time :).

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