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[BTS] BOTM 299: Caesar Augustus, Immortal - Final Spoiler - Game Submitted

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BOTM 299: Caesar Augustus, Immortal - Final Spoiler - Game Submitted

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Use this thread to tell us what happened in your game, particularly anything after 1AD

Did you win?

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I m gona admit defeat on this one and start over. Since I can`t see me win this one.
I actually setteled on the the northern gold, which was a sakrilege but worked better than expected. I realised not to late that I was alone and barbs would be an issue, but like in the last Botm it never occured to me to build the GW. I also misremembered the leader and it was not until I buil the GLH that I realised that we play Augustus and not julius. But having a Costal Capitol and forrests it was actually pretty easy to get the GLH. After that it took quite some time to effectively spawnbust the south and west before I was able to get the whole picture. So I only discovered the western Island in aroun 300ad. I commited early to bulbing Astro so even skipped CoL. After the initial Great Merchant which gave me currency I managed to get the first GS. But due to the Lack of planing and lazyness I tried to get the second GS in my Capitol but with the polluted GPPool I just caught myself a second GM at 29% odds (which is pretty likely). This pushes my Astrodate way beyond 1000Ad and after finding Hannibal 2two centuries ago and seeing how far ahead he is I am to disappointed in my game to continue. I will submit now and start over and see if I can push down the Astro date to around 400Ad which I think is quite possible. But still thanks for the map though.
 
Yeah, I got demoralized by losing out on GLH. I wisely built an early scouting workboat but sadly made it all the way east and got eaten on the way back so I didn’t know about the island pre-AD. I also wisely got a plus visibility chariot early which would have told me we can contact AIs in the late BCs but didn’t scout west with it. Alas.

By the time I met Hanibal he was about 10 techs ahead. Game over.
 
This is the longest game I every played I guess.
The grave mistake I made was that the tree tile 2E of Rome was wrongly assigned to Arretium. Because of that, I was 1 turn away from completing the Pyramids and forever. I received 471 super-fail gold. Till the end of game I never had the chance to take it back by force. Anyway, I got most of the wonders I needed, the Parthenon, the Mom, the Great Library, the Taj. I was the first to discover Music and philosophy, and first to circumnavigate. Gandi took liberalism. Btw, I forgot to use great scientist bulb to accelerate the research. If I had used one of them on education, I would have had a chance for liberism too. No gs bulb, no academy. I saved all the great people for 4 golden ages.
Spoiler Hi Hannibal, I know it's you :
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Bismark and Hannibal were at war for many years. Prolonged war slowed them both down. When I attacked Hannibal and Bismark with cavalry, Hannibal only had cuirassiers and musketman while Bismark only had knights and medieval units. They both surrendered after I took 2 cities.
My next target was Khmer. Instead of confronting me in his own continent, Sue sent his troops to my undefended colony to the east. I took 3 cities from him and he took 3 from me. That looked like an even trade...So I called for a ceasefire and waited till I built a small army equipped with artillery on my new colony. I took my cities back and 5 more from Khmer before he capitulated.
In my original plan I would attack Saladin next since I already acquired a foothold on his continent and a teammate. But I noticed something weird. Gandi who had been the most advanced throughout history suddenly fell behind.
Spoiler temptation :
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Spoiler Gandi's plan :
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OK. Gandi first. I splited my forces into 2 directions. Veteran calvary army targeted at northern coastal cities including Delhi, while new tank army approached from south. To my surprise, Gandi resumed teching. He swiftly caught up with me while I rallied my forces. My northern group went on well, but my southern group(20-ish tanks and artillery) was completely destroyed upon landing...Fortunately, he didn't have time to build railroad network. I called for a ceasefire again. This time I build a bigger force. I took 9 more cities before accepting his surrender in 1848. Justinian was a much easier target. He dow'd Gandi before but at last he gave Gandi a city for peace. Gandi's cultural pressure allowed me to attack Byzantine border cities directly. When his big calvary stack was destroyed by my tanks, he capitulated in 1860.
Meanwhile Saladin built the UN. I wanted to have more modern warfare so I didn't choose the diplomatic victory option. Instead I completed the Manhattan project and used UN resolution for a painless switch to universal suffrage to rush ICM by gold. Actually I learned something. Even though tactical nuke can be rebased to any cities just like an fighter, the latter can be directly rebased to a carrier in ocean while a nuke can only be rebased to a city and then loaded to a submarine.
Spoiler The Plunge :
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Spoiler National park city, 0 new forest grown in its BFC after buidling forest reserves :
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I usually play deity. I think a map with 850+ tiles can be tagged as hard to win because of AI's scary research and production speed on deity level. This game is just nice. Thanks for the game and all the efforts to keep botm alive.
 
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I lost my first (built) settler to barbs, and lost my 6 or 7th city to barbs but got it back. I was so caught up in fending off metal barbarians without any metal myself, that I barely noticed we were Astro-Isolated. I almost went into strike early, and so was hopelessly in last place on first meeting Hannibal. I figured I could go for diplo VC, but the UN was built same turn I got electricity, so that was hopeless.

Eventually, I was able to tech things that Bismark, Ghandi, Hannibal, or later the colonial Charlemagne still needed. The only excitement was whether India would finish a cultural victory (10 turns out) or Saladin or Suryavarman would get to space. Saladin (my defensive pact friend) did win.

My only wonder (despite having the GE's, I couldn't get close in tech to actually start building one) turned out to be Sid's Sushi. Milked it for what I could... maybe a green ambulance? Score 4300 SS loss to saladin in t339 (1919ad).

At least I managed to stay out of all wars, so I hear-by nominate myself as the most worthy recipient of the second annual FIFA "Kick the Balls" Peace Prize. :sarcasm:
With prior map knowledge I perhaps could have won this game... but probably not. Being isolated at Immortal difficulty is a righteous challenge. :deadhorse:

Thanks for a fun game, though.
 
Try, try again. In the first spoiler I reported my poor status at 1 AD of 5 cities and 17 pop. I played on but by 920, after I'd met Hanny (and was deprived of trade routes and further exploration because his culture was preventing my culture on the western island from expanding) and a few other AIs had sent ships to meet me, it was painfully clear that I had no chance to win. I had settled my capital on the shore where many players had planted their second city. But for my second attempt, I settled immediately south of the gold like most of you. Yeah, that worked better. ;) I still didn't manage to get any Wonders, but at 1AD I had 7 cities and 29 pop, with a settler waiting for a safe opportunity to plant another city. I settled the island well before Hanny settled his south coast, so this time I had trade routes and could keep my exploration going. I beelined Astro to the exclusion of nearly all else, and then managed to backfill most techs pretty well. By 1500 I was nearly caught up to the two leaders; with the prospective help of my new colony, with 6 cities I'd settled on the eastern island, and a monopoly on Chemistry, it was looking good to gain tech primacy before long, so I optimistically declared myself Inevitable Winner (with undetermined victory condition) and started BOTM 301. :)

Cheating and starting over helps a lot! If I can't do that, though, resisting my apparent obsession with starting on the coast would enhance outcomes. And yes, I did submit my failed first attempt, to respect the mapmaker and honor those who did so much better than I. Thanks for the game, DS!
 
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I pretty much played this game as bad as possible lol. If I had read the pre-game discussion thread I would have known my continent was going to be much larger than fractal maps I usually play and went for a quick TGW. Instead, I ended up fog busting my whole island with warriors/chariots and paying 10-15 gpt in unit cost/supply to stave off the barbs. I ended up setting 5 cities, which in hindsight was one too many as my 5th didn't pay back the additional maintenance added quickly and slowed my tech down. I still somehow got a 1000 AD astronomy time and was the tech leader for a bit. Settled 4 more cities and played until 1370 when the other civs caught up to me in tech and I decided to shelve the game and come back for another day. Never ended up returning so submitting as retired.
 
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