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Brexit Thread VI - The Knockout Phase ?!?

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  1. Hrothbern

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    Liam Fox, Britain's trade secretary, during a visit in Iraq, said the EU will end up with 50 “disruptive and resentful” British members of the European Parliament if the U.K. takes part in next month's EU election.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/liam-fox-warns-eu-will-get-disruptive-and-resentful-british-meps/


    50 !
    Well.. the UK as a whole will get 73 seats.
    And if the polls so far are correct, the Farrage Brexit party and the UKIP get together 30% of the popular vote, which could be a bit more than 30% of the seats because of the rules in the UK how to convert that PV in seats.
    So... let's say 25 disruptive seats.
    Where is Liam Fox seeing those other 25 seats coming from ???
    Not from the Tories. In total they get from the polls 12 seats and among them europhile Remainers.
    So where from then ? From Labour, from the Greens, from the LibDems, from the SNP, Cymru ???

    In other words: BS from mr Liam Fox as usual.

    He is BTW in Iraq, that former UK mandatory protectorate, to work on a trade deal. A kind of funny one.
    The UK exports roughly GBP 350 Million per year, or 0.35 Billion, to Iraq.
    Fox is talking now with Iraq on a 1.0 Billion aid to Iraq, not because of that 2003 war, but to help companies like Siemens and GE, their UK plants, to export more.
    Yeah... that will really help the UK economy !
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/trade-secretary-announces-1-billion-to-support-trade-with-iraq
     
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    I have the suspicion that if someone was to plot a graph of:

    x axis: British government ministrial visits to foreign countries
    y:axis: increase in exports five to ten years subsequent to each minister's visit

    over the last 100 years; it would, with the possible exception
    of the subsidised arnaments industry, show a negative correlation.

    I.e. ordinary (rather than gvernmental) British trade
    prospers best when there were few or no ministerial visits.
     
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  3. Takhisis

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    Hmmm yes, in general that seems to be the best support for Traitorfish's anarchist positions: the fact that whenever the British government intervenes, they tend to to more harm than good, if they do any good, that is.
     
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    @ Silurian

    Well I read it, the article is tiresome and I really don't recommend it.
    It seems the conservatives are bogged down by their own procedures.
    The only consolation was in some of the comments on it there.

    I still have Phil Hammond as my prediction for next UK PM.
     
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    Wouldn't that be pretty much a continuation of May?

    Surely David David David has more support within the party?
     
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    Grassy grove?
     
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    It should say ‘no fewer than sixty-five Constituency Association Chairmen’. /baron Kyr.

    Of course, it's the will of the people in her sconstituency that she be their MP so she's not stepping down.

    The government can act when it wants to, e.g. arresting the odd few hundred or thousand environmental activists, but that might be because a caertain Ms. Thunberg that Brexit is an excellent excuse to not discuss climate change legislation.



    Also, the baron should start reading the Grauniad again:
     
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    I would say Hammond lacks personality and charisma but that never stopped John Major.
     
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    yes
    same thought !

    And so far he did well in keeping the business and corporate community positive on the likely outcome: no panick reactions in the direct wake of the referendum. Only the inevtable inflation effects of the lower Pound, and ofc business stalling expansive investments.
    He released just enough govt money to keep the engine running of the economy.
    And although the lower investment rate is bad for increasing productivity rate, it does help lowering unemployment rate when there is no panic in population consumption and business orders on operational level. Higher GDP at identical productivity is more jobs, and newspapers singing halleluja.
    He did quite well actually.
     
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    Hammond imho doesn't have that much of a John Major vibe. JM at least seemed to believe in what he was saying, and did come across as decent - though one should not forget he was fully in line with US in the first gulf war, so it's not like he was some champion of actual humanism.

    Btw, what is that i saw on youtube on a possible move by tory mps to oust Bercow?
    My own view on Bercow - the house speaker- has been stated a few times. He used to be a figure i liked, but i think he is not at all helping with his rather more than just entirely blatant pro-remain stance. Cause he isn't (while speaker) an mp - he is the speaker by role, and should not use his role to make policy but to allow the house to make policy.
     
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    Just ask Edwina… and no, I don't mean the knitting hen from Chicken Run. ;)
     
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    Believed in what he was saying? What did he actually ever say? There was back to basics, which I think even the Tory party admits backfired. The only good thing about Major is how awful our leaders have been since him..
     
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    He was also better than the horror which immediately preceded him ^_^
    I am not saying i am well-versed on Major, but at least next to obvious scum he did seem a bit likable. I was too young to notice anything about his policies...
     
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    OK, him and Brown have been the least dislikeable leaders over the past 40 years. That isn't actually saying much.
    God, this country is bleeped. This is the best we have :cry:
     
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    I've given up. I don't think there will ever be a Brexit. We're stuck with the Farages and Johnsons and Davises screaming and throwing poo in the EU forever...
     
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    Childe Roland to the dark tower came.
     
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    Hm, apparently the Witticombe joined Farridge's Brexit party and is running for euro mp.
    Britain must leave the eu asap, unless you want to see Anne Witticombe in the european parliament.
     
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    I mean... I kind of would like to see that.
     
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    Thats a good reason for the rest of Europe to want the UK out but for us Brits Widdicombe, Farage and their beastly cohorts will be around anyway. They can do less harm there than they would in our parliament, just chuck their rattle out of the pram every now and then.
     
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