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Brexit Thread VI - The Knockout Phase ?!?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Hrothbern, Mar 22, 2019.

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  1. AmazonQueen

    AmazonQueen Virago

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    I'm hoping it means that Brits aren't prepared to embrace the outright xenophobia of Batten and Robinson. They still prefer the coded racism of Farage. Not good but at least its not getting worse.
     
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  3. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    up yours!
    @metatron this is required reading.
     
  4. Lillefix

    Lillefix I'm serious. You can.

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    I read the youtube comments for this and it's depressing. And I don't understand why the negative comments are so much upvoted. It doesn't even say who to vote for. Only that you should vote. Sure, there is some legitimate concern for article 13, but still.
     
  5. metatron

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    Does this differ from the original ad?
    If not:
    Way ahead of you. :)

    That public defense for this ad exists is what's depressing.
     
  6. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    Das ist mein (auf Englisch) point.
     
  7. metatron

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    Oh, you were just pushing the button so that a 'tron-in-a-box comes forth. :)

    Btw, i was just thinking: Isn't this Very British Porn Ban supposed to happen this summer too?
    I mean there's all sorts of funny parallels.
    It's very dumb.
    Slightly fash arguments are made in favor of it.
    It doesn't work.
    And it's been delayed roughly seven times.
     
  8. Hrothbern

    Hrothbern Warlord

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    That depends ofc on what the 27 PMs of the EU member states decide.
    The position of the leaders of the EU Parliament political parties that form together an overwheming majority in the EU Parliament is however very, very clear:
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    Weber leader for the biggest party the EPP (centre-right), Timmermans for the Social-Democrats (2nd biggest party), Vestager for the ALDE (liberal, 3rd biggest party), Eickhout for the Greens/EFA, Zahradil for the ECR (euro-sceptics), Tomic for the GUE/NGL (Left-Greens). Together polled currently for 585 of the total 751 seats of the EU Parliament.
    Those questions were made at the end of a speed interview of all 6 leaders of 20 minutes each here: https://www.politico.eu/article/eur...-commission-president-top-job-the-candidates/
    Those election interviews on their main program points give I think a good picture what the EU is embarking for the next 5 years.

    The ball is firmly in Westminster... the EU will ignore the spectacle... no way for May or Corbyn to walk away from their own responsibilities for their own country (no way to use the EU any longer for smoke and mirrors).


    And regarding that process in the UK: the stew is still brewing.
    The only way to avoid that for May is either getting enough support for her deal from the hard Brexiteers (???) or by luring Corbyn into a deal without a confirmatory referendum.
    I think she, in a hugely damaged Tory party, is atm mainly interested in getting the Labour party more damaged from its internal divide (on that referendum).
    The SNP strongly interested in seeing both parties damaged: getting many of the 59 Scottish MP seats secured for national UK elections in a fractured UK landscape will make the SNP kingmaker.
    It's just like Game of Thrones.

    The clock ticking indeed... the EU elections nearing... the appetiser of the local elections just a week to go
     
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  9. EnglishEdward

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    Thank you.

    Damages from individuals are de facto limited by their assets and from company owners also by limited liability.
    Organisations that benefit from such arrangements shouldnot be able to sue governments without limit.


    More generally by definition new entrants do not have market share to lose,
    so any entitlement to loss of market share inherently favours incumbents.

    Regarding the standby ferry contracts, I understand they were for contingency, i.e. in case the existing
    UK-EU freight operators could not deliver because of disruption; so any loss of market share would
    arise from their failure to deliver, for which UK government compensation is hardly relevant.


    Not sure what you mean; they can hardly build a second tunnel or (Boris) bridge in 3 months.


    Problem is that many UK ports are privately owned. And if the law is such that any public investment
    decision concerning them can be challenged and any challenger rewarded with damages at large,
    it becomes practically impossible for the government to make any investment and paralysis sets in.


    EU rules don't always prevent government favouratism, it merely complicates it and means that government
    choice is done in a more obscure way (PFI) that provides far less transparency and more opportunities for
    stiffing the government which of course means the tax payer which of course means you and me.

    Afterall what do you really think is going on while we are in the EU with HS2, and chinese nuclear in UK?


    Why should I provide excuses for them? . The conservative party is not paying me to post here.


    Greater than 50%
     
  10. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Well, you're happy to blame Hammond and May, seemingly explicitly because they were Remainers, and there's rarely a peep out of you about the failings of Leave ministers, so I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder this might be. There was also your implication that responsiblity for Brexit lies entirely on their shoulders, rather than, say, the rest of the Cabinet for spectacularly failing to even pretend to have a unified front on this whole Brexit lark.


    (Sidenote: Even if we had a Clarkson in government too right now, the more famous trio by that name would still not mess things up as much.)
     
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    Hungary, Austria and Balto-continuum are more racist than top-gear. You don't seem to mind ^_^
     
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    Blaming everybody around them will be the only thing left for the Brexiteers and Lexiteers when this whole affair is concluded.
    How they are going to avoid the younger generation to settle accounts with them ?
    IDK
     
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    Speaking of top gear - apparently it was more popular in Netherlands than Britain :)
     
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    It was certainly popular here
    Even I saw it often !
    But that's because I like cars and the nonchalance of their TV making of some beer drinking fellows that also love cars and never grew up.
     
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    You would watch it for that, yet maybe some others did due to Clarkson's swartepete-isms :o
     
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    I am pretty certain that is the case.
    We have a popular football TV discussion program where there is a similar bunch in their 50ies and 60ies, very knowledgable on football... and at the same time never got much older than 16... being similar provocative and discriminatory.
    I never watch that one.
     
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    No one has asked my opinion on those countries' policies, but even if they had, it's hardly relevant to the Brexit thread, wouldn't you say?
     
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    For the benefit of domestic politcs, the UK embarked on Brexit. For the benefit of global reality, the UK embarked on, "Oh, come on, I hope you don't take that domestic politics crap seriously... Wait...You do??? Holy ****, we're Royally screwed!"
     
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    From Royal gossip... I did hear that the Queen has indicated to May that she would not be Royally amused when her family would no longer be the Royal Crown of Northern Ireland
     
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    The crown already lost entire continents. N. Ireland is rather poor anyway.
     
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