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Brexit Thread VII - Revenge of the Brexiteers

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Cheetah, Jul 26, 2019.

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  1. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Was it really necessary to break up half his post into dozen-word chunks and quote them individually?
     
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    The practical alternative is to summarise his post's arguments in my own words which I
    prefer not to do as it is very easy to make a mistake in the text and inadvertently misquote him,
    and I know that I have in the past criticised other contributors to this thread for doing exactly that.
     
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    I've just noticed that we've filled 2000 posts in just under three months. We'll soon have an appropriate time to start the next incarnation whatever happens this week.
     
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    Brexit aeternus et umquam?
     
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    Stop being such a cry-baby.
    If this type of "it's just not cricket" behaviour has occurred before, then why were Parliamentary Standing Orders and Procedures not amended to prevent repetitions?
    If it is the first time that they have been abused so egregiously, then the relevant Orders and Procedures should be amended or introduced ASAP.
     
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    Misce, fiat mistura.
     
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    Sorry, I'm being a cry-baby? Have you got your wires crossed?
     
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    Volenti non fit iniuria.
     
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    No wires crossed. You're being a cry-baby because Boris is being childish and threatening to take his ball home.
    So, do you know whether there have been similar attempts to force important Bills through the HoC before and, if so, whether anybody did anything to prevent repetitions if that behaviour was viewed as verging on an abuse of procedure?
     
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    I have no idea, but presumably that would take legislation to change and if it's the Govt doing it...

    Besides, if you're calling me a cry-baby for calling his childish antics pathetic, I do hope you never comment on politics for fear of falling foul of your own lofty standard.
     
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    Brexit is boring and never-ending :/
     
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    My lofty standard is that it's a surreal farce. I'll try not to fall off my fish like a giraffe on fire.
     
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    A giraffe on fire, on the run in its impossible quest to put out the fire and stop the horrible pain, could light up a vast area...
     
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    The Brexit bills explicitly states that the safeguards against ramming through an international treaty without time to scrutinize it do not apply to the bill. Because otherwise, it would violate those safeguards.

    For some undiscernable reason, he has again and again refused to consider an extension beyond the end of October. And now he has to ram the bill through for no other reason but to save face.
     
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    And he is saying he will "push" for a general election. As if he will be able to get 2/3rds of parliament to vote for anything he wants, just after he has failed to get 1/2 of parliament to vote for what he really wants.
     
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    There's another move or two available to him, e.g. a no-confidence motion in himself. That's down to a simple majority, not 2/3rds.
    If Labour (or some coalition) can't form government in 14 days, then there could be an immediate general election. (But that would be > 31 October.)
    I hope the unelected Bishops, peers, and Druids in the HoL have something up their sleeves to make it even worse. :)
     
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    MPs have voted to reject the government's timetable for the remaining stages of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill that they have just backed.

    But Boris won a vote in the HoC and his Dad will stick that result on the fridge door.
     
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    DUP would have swung it for him.
     
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    Indeed, yes.

    There was a 30-vote majority to accept the second reading, but a 14 vote loss to ram it through the House in just three days, so of course Johnson has now declined to push the motion any further, citing the need for a quick deal. Clearly, in his mind, when you need to get something done quickly, you loudly announce you're not going to do it any more.
     
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    "As of now my understanding is that the leader of the house [Jacob Rees-Mogg] intends to make a business statement which sets out government intentions for the coming days," Speaker John Bercow tells MPs.

    In case anyone has forgotten who Rees-Mogg is...
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