Brexit Thread VIII: Taking a penalty kick-ing

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I think that the UK government is being driven more by events, than by conservative
ideology or interests, and their prioritisation for bottlenecking at the PMO reflects that.
 
Oh no, there is a plan. It's just ‘deregulate and lie and misdirect and let the rich prosper off it’ and Brexit is part of the misdirection efforts.
 
I can spot a coherent plan there.

Maybe she meant no hint of any plan to actually govern the country other than the blatant nepotism.
 
Did BoJo expect it to get to the ECJ so quickly?

The EU has begun legal action against the UK over its alleged breach of the NI Protocol.
It could lead to the UK having to defend its actions at the European Court of Justice.

Earlier this month, the UK government changed how the protocol is being implemented without EU agreement.
It delayed the introduction of new sea border checks on food, parcels and pets.
It also moved unilaterally to ease the trade in horticultural products across from Great Britain to Northern Ireland.​
 
More of those articles why innonimatu has decided the grauniad is no longer a valid source:
The Brexit deal was astonishingly bad, and every day the evidence piles up
By Polly Toynbee
Trade has plummeted and red tape has blocked our borders. Is that what ‘protecting our sovereignty’ meant?

Now we know that British exports to the European Union plummeted by a cataclysmic 41% after Brexit on 1 January, what next? This is not the “slow puncture” predicted, but a big bang. Yet so far, it registers little on the political Richter scale.

It should shake the government to the core, but voters are well protected from this unwelcome news by our largely pro-Brexit press. Nor does BBC news, under Brexiteer mortar fire, dare do enough to rebalance the misinformation. Saturday’s Financial Times splashed that killer trade figure on its front page, but the Daily Express splashed “Flying start for US trade deal”. There is no “flying start”. Meanwhile, an EU legal action against Boris Johnson is starting this week, for his reneging on the Northern Ireland protocol and thereby imperilling the Good Friday peace agreement.

The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Daily Telegraph barely cover the EU trade fiascos, says Dr Andrew Jones, part of an Exeter University team monitoring Brexit media stories since the referendum. Currently, Jones says, those papers’ main Brexit story is Britain’s triumph over the EU on vaccines. That trope always omits the fact the UK could have purchased the same volume while in the EU, but it has become the Brexiters’ clinching case.

Spoiler :
Prof Katharine Tyler, of the same Exeter team – and currently re-interviewing voters from Lincolnshire, the south west and Newcastle – finds no shifting views in either leavers or remainers. Nor does she expect real-world effects to have much impact given Brexit’s strong connection to national and personal identity. Bad trade news bounces off sovereignty-seekers, for whom any economic price was always worth paying.

Unless people read the Guardian, the Financial Times and a very few others, the Brexit damage is still invisible, with no lorry queues jamming motorways nor empty supermarket shelves: these may yet happen when delayed import controls are imposed next January.

Manufacturers may say they are in “Dante’s fifth circle of hell” but their loss of exports is out of sight of most of the public. Take Seetru, a Bristol industrial valve-maker I’ve followed throughout Brexit. Half its exports were to the EU: as UK exports to Germany fell by a shattering 56%, its managing director, Andrew Varga, finds his products “stuck for eight weeks in German customs, swamped by bureaucracy, massively clogged”. Fearing the loss of his just-in-time customers, he’s flying his products to Germany at “10 times the cost”.

He calls “doctrinaire and ideological” the creation of a UK kite mark, forcing him to re-register 30,000 products under two systems. “That,” he sighs, “is what they call sovereignty.” Brexit never “took back control” or escaped “Brussels bureaucracy” but instead blocked the borders with impenetrable thickets of red tape.

No extra time, no illegal “grace period” unlocks the impossible Irish conundrum now heading to court. Once out of the single market and customs union there were just two options, both terrible: a UK-splitting customs border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland; or a peace-deal-breaking hard border within Ireland. No wonder Johnson lied about what he had signed.

The only answer is Norway-shaped: putting all the UK into the single market and the customs union restores frictionless trade, with no Irish borders. But Britain is still emotionally miles away from recognising that necessity.

Meanwhile, this Pandora’s box of a Brexit swarms out new pests daily. Take the 83% collapse of a fishing and shellfish industry that was once the Brexit campaign’s talisman. David Frost and Michael Gove seem never to have known that each boatload of seafood needs 71 pages of customs forms; nor did they understand the fatal fish “depuration” rules that left stock rotting on the dock.

Political optics were all that mattered to these brilliant negotiators, so they thought they could abandon the services and the banking sector, despite services making up 80% of our economy and financial services 10% of tax receipts. So City firms have moved £1.3tn of assets to the EU already, and within one month Amsterdam has overtaken the City as Europe’s largest sharetrading centre.

Daily, new stingers fly out of the Brexit box. “Au revoir to au pairs”, mourns the Telegraph, with no visas for student family helpers because they earn under £20,480. The British Cactus Society mourns the loss of its industry to customs barriers. Students mourn the needless loss of Erasmus, its inferior Turing replacement abandoning cultural swaps for teachers.

How’s global Britain doing? We used to be good at soft power, spreading UK influences in culture, language and the ideals of democracy; but that liberal stuff nauseates the most ideological Brexiters. So they swing their wrecking ball at the BBC, the UK’s worldwide voice, cutting its funding level by 30% while putting its cherished independence under sinister attack. The British Council, spreader of English language and culture, is cut too. Even UK collaboration in global scientific research – on antimicrobial resistance and the climate crisis – is halved. Cutting aid to Yemen mid-famine sends a spine-chilling message about what Britain has become.

Refusing the new EU envoy ambassadorial status is a political gesture to keep the Brexit base fired up. Fighting the EU in the courts may be relished by them. The more damage Brexit does, the louder those who Ken Clarke calls “headbangers” yell for “revenge”. Mark Francois, chair of the hardcore pro-Brexit European Research Group, this week calls not just for tearing up the “intolerable” Northern Ireland protocol, but for defaulting on the £20bn owed to the EU. Treaty-defaulters, debt-dodgers – these wreckers make us new enemies and no new friends.

There is no upside, so will all this damage ever outweigh the spiritual belief that Brexit saved our national sovereignty? What that trigger might be, no one knows. Labour will plug away, exposing myriad flaws in the dreadful trade deal. The shadow trade secretary, Emily Thornberry, scored a hit this week by forcing the government to reveal no economic impact assessment was ever made on the Brexit deal, despite one for every other trade treaty, even with Albania. No extra penny of advantage comes from Liz Truss’s trade deals, all identical to existing EU deals. Who but remainers notices?

Labour is increasingly aggressive in attacking Brexit fallouts, despite bombardment by Tories as “remoaners”. The question is when the sheer weight of evidence exposes how astonishingly bad the Brexit deal is. The remain ship sailed long ago, but the boat to Norway may eventually dock here. In the meantime, EU legal action reinforces our government’s reckless isolationism. There the ministers stand, as if reprising that wartime cartoon from the cliffs of Dover: “Very well, alone!
 

I wonder why ?

EU parliament group chiefs had been expected to fix a March 24 date for the vote. But they opted not to do so after the British government unilaterally extended a grace period for checks on food imports to Northern Ireland, a move Brussels said violated the terms of Britain's divorce deal.
Britain acknowledged last September that it would break international law by breaching parts of the Withdrawal Agreement treaty it signed in January 2020, when it formally left the EU
 
The Brexit deal was astonishingly bad, and every day the evidence piles up
By Polly Toynbee
Trade has plummeted and red tape has blocked our borders. Is that what ‘protecting our sovereignty’ meant?

Now we know that British exports to the European Union plummeted by a cataclysmic 41% after Brexit on 1 January, what next? This is not the “slow puncture” predicted, but a big bang. Yet so far, it registers little on the political Richter scale.

My guess is that Johnson did aim for a WTO deal where any cherry he could add (from a divided EU) would be welcome and his position in obtaining just that was screwed because of NI, the GFA.
The only cherry that Johnson got was no tariffs on all goods that pass (for now) the NTBs, the NonTariffBarriers. Products like for example seed potatoes are forbidden to export to the EU.
In horse trading to the cliff edge for more cherries, he sacrificed during the transition time (while in the EU frictionless trade benefits) a prudent preparation time for his own civil services with a clear destiny profile for the UK businesses involved in imports and exports, enabling them the preparation time to get their third country customs knowledge, their software and procedures adapted.
Add Covid on top and you get that 41% decrease in trade for January and this will for sure improve to less decrease during the year although the shock effect of the bad start will take effect.

But how big would the decrease have been without Covid and the bad preparation ?

If I look at my base reference on this Brexit issue, I can still use the analysis made by our Dutch CPB, a far remnant-successor of the Rekenkamer (Math room) founded before 1443 AD on demand of our Burgundian overlord at that time: Philip the Good.
That analysis made just before the referendum estimates that a WTO relation would decrease export of the UK to the EU with 51% in 2030. And ofc slowly reaching that 51% over the years.
The analysis also estimated that a FTA relation, whereby it would take 10 years to agree such a comprehensive FTA, would see a 31% decrease in UK-EU export in 2030.
That FTA was assumed to have zero tariffs and 50% of NTBs removed (and implicitly the UK rule-taker for "50%")
The deal we have now is a WTO with 100% NTB + no tariffs => a decrease of 40% in 2030 ?... being as it happened the same as January with that 41% of Polly.

=> the only thing that happened is that the UK and the EU got a taste where it could end up anyway in 2030, and as I said, I have no doubt that next year this 41% will be much lower. It will take years for the UK and EU economies to grow away from each other. Unless ofc we start real trade wars.

Here that analysis made before the referendum for our Dutch government, business associations, trade unions etc, to enable them to take better position to react on a possible Leave referendum vote.
https://www.cpb.nl/sites/default/fi...ade-effects-of-brexit-for-the-netherlands.pdf
And for sure not perfect. The figures shown in the table below just applying for the static shock the standard models for trade.
Estimating the dynamic effects that come on top of the static shock, the synergy losses affecting productivities, is much more difficult and uncertain. At the end of the report some guesses are made.

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The EU already tried demanding vaccines it refuses to use.
Now it can also try bringing the UK to a court for breaking a treaty it didn't ratify. That's very much in character.

WTF ????
EU vaccine rollout has problems, but automatically blaming the EU is just dumb
Are you struggling to read english I guess its not your native language so I'll let that pass but Withdrawal Agreement treaty it signed in January 2020.

What about UK exports to the EU?
There has been no public announcement of any vaccine exports from the UK, and no evidence that any have taken place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/45877605
 
So, is the EU about to declare a vaccine war on us? They have a war council meeting on Thursday to decide it seems.
They are actually threatening to allow war-time powers to seize factories, ride roughshod over intellectual property rights and break cast-iron trade contracts in the process.
They mostly want to stop the export of the AZ vaccine to the UK. This is the vaccine they have irresponsibly trashed and trashed and trashed causing widespread rejection of the vaccine in the EU. Manna from heaven it has been for the ant-vaxxers. They then started hoarding it and now they want to keep it all. Just so long as the UK does not have it.

This is not their vaccine; it is ours, paid for by us, that just so happens to be manufactured in Belgium and NL (and the only reason the NL plant is up to scratch is because we sent a team over there to help out last December).

We could, in theory, retaliate ourselves and seriously upset the EU production of their Pfizer jab as one of the key components is made in Yorkshire:
A Pfizer boss said they were "heavily dependent" on supplies of lipid ingredients from the UK, saying: "They [Pfizer/BioNTech] told the commission that if the UK shuts down the lipids then the whole process grinds to a halt in weeks."

But I don’t think we would reduce ourselves to the low, low level of the EU

Boris has somehow kept his cool over this and is trying to ‘go Dutch’ on the output from Holland – ie share the output. Some common sense seems to be coming out of both Ireland and NL (Martin and Rutte) but not from Merkel and Macron. They have completely lost their marbles it seems. Especially Gruppenführer von del Leyen.

Let’s face it, this is all about Brexit. Every action about the AZ vaccine by the EU has been against Brexit Britain.

They cannot stand the fact we beat them to it last year, a full 3 or 4 months ahead of them regarding AZ. They treated Big Pharma as the enemy; we treated it as our friend. They were slow out of the blocks and were going to rely on a French vaccine (Sanofi) and when that was shown not to be ready in time, they decided they would try and jump the AZ queue. As Verhofstadt said 'Unlike the EU, the UK contract has an additional article stating that AstraZeneca 'shall not enter into any agreement with any foreign government . . . that would by its terms conflict with AZ's obligation hereunder'. And: 'The EU contract is based on an 'estimated time schedule'.

They cannot stand that Britain, in just the first year, has shown how right we were to leave the EU and how successful we could be outside this bureaucratic monster. They dug themselves a hole last year on these vaccines and have not stopped digging ever since, playing politics with peoples’ lives in the process. They refuse to acknowledge their cock-ups and are doing their best to blame it all on the UK.

The very worst is that I don’t think they actually want this vaccine. They just don’t want us to have it.

There is talk of them getting the Sputnik jab. Well I wish they would as we need the EU to be fully vaccinated almost as much as they do (and vice versa).
 
ride roughshod over intellectual property rights
They should be doing this. It is a travesty that IP law is being used to prevent people getting vaccinated in the middle of a global pandemic, where the emergence of new strains could close the world for another year.
 
Could we do without the Express-level of posting, Tsunami? Just because you seen to hate the EU with every fibre of your body does not mean that everyone else mirrors those feelings and acts on them.
 
Well the AZO is sold at cost so ip doesn't really seem to be an issue, but other than that I think he makes some good points. The Commission and French reactions to AZO do seem to have been grounded in Brexit and for domestic political consumption.

The fact is the whole EU put less danger money into vaccines than the UK. They were unfortunate that the lynchpin of their investment stumbled, but there has been the most awful bureaucratic inertia. They waited three months later before handing over the cash and so their programme is three months behind. They pinched the Aussie vaccine then refused to use it.
 
They should be doing this. It is a travesty that IP law is being used to prevent people getting vaccinated in the middle of a global pandemic, where the emergence of new strains could close the world for another year.

This is just the sort of anti-BigPharma attitude that has contributed to the difficult position the EU finds itself in now. And if they did that sort of nonsensical thing there would be no Pharma to speak of in the EU in the future. What company would want to spend millions on developments, only to have it taken away from them? What new company would touch the EU with a barge pole?

The AZ vaccine is being massively manufactured in places like India and rolled out in over 70 countries at cost. It is apparently the backbone of the Covax scene.

And this is the one the EU went out of its way to smear. Systematic, irresponsible smearing at that.


Could we do without the Express-level of posting, Tsunami? Just because you seen to hate the EU with every fibre of your body does not mean that everyone else mirrors those feelings and acts on them.

Given what I have written above, why on earth are you not mad as hell at the EU?
It’s not just Britain they are hurting – it’s the whole world.
 
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