Britain/England - Modern Age Civilization speculation

Does "Right to Rule" fit modern England?
Right to rule is such a common phrase and concept that it could fit for anyone: divine right, constitutional monarchies, parliaments, elective monarchies, god kings...

But I personally think that countries that changed in that regard from one age to the next are good candidates, i.e., for Europe: Britain or the Netherlands in the modern age; the HRE or Poland in the exploration age. But the pack could just as well include Edo Japan and Assyria and be thematic with the title.
 
Does "Right to Rule" fit modern England?
"Modern" encompassing every part of the British Empire from the Stuart period through post-WW2, including the height of the empire when they occupied India, much of Africa, and much of the Mideast, I'd say yes.
 
However for the unique units, redcoat as mentioned but i would definitely look at the age of sail for the naval unit.
The problem for me is that i loved seadogs (since capturing prizes was a huge motivation for RN captains) and i loved the royal naval dockyard (since industry was a huge part of why the RN did so well) so i am struggling to think of a better option
At this point I could see a Colonial Headquarters quarter being built with something like an East India Company building and Governor Office building, being built only in Distant lands.
 
Britain WILL be in the base game. As the largest empire in history, it is the very definition of a civilization in the series, probably more so than Rome even.
 
Britain WILL be in the base game. As the largest empire in history, it is the very definition of a civilization in the series, probably more so than Rome even.
There have been cases of historically significant empires left out of the base game, like Persia and the Mongols in Civ6, for example. Additionally, there are solid arguments for the Normans representing the island of Great Britain. If the British are included, then I’d bet on Germany being left out. But everything is still unclear.
 
I like my proposal for a United Kingdom civ that goes in a very different direction than previous depictions of England.
I doubt Firaxis will do anything like this, but they should, as language and literature are arguably England's most lasting legacy and consequential impact on the world.
Especially in the Anglosphere today, post-Pax Britannica.

United Kingdom

Unique Ability - “Faery Stories”
Every time that the U.K. completes a Narrative event or Legacy Path objective, it generates Culture and accrues points towards its Unique Great Person: Inklings

Unique Civilian Unit - Inkling
Unique Great Writer unit.
Inklings serve as an additional means of advancing the Cultural Legacy Path
The Great Works of Writing produced by Inklings have higher yields than generic Great Works.
Each Inkling is random and can only be recruited once, and the cost for each new Inkling increases.
(The game’s “Inklings” includes famous U.K. writers not part of the historical group, and excludes many who were)

  1. Andrew Lang - The Blue Fairy Book
  2. Beatrix Potter - The Tale of Peter Rabbit
  3. C.S. Lewis - The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
  4. George MacDonald - Phantastes
  5. H. Rider Haggard - She
  6. J. M. Barrie - Peter Pan
  7. J.R.R. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings
  8. Kenneth Grahame - The Wind in the Willows
  9. Lewis Carroll - Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
  10. Roald Dahl - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Unique Military Unit - MI6 Agent
A unique Scout unit with actions similar to Spy operations from Civ VI.
Successfully conducting such operations nets Inkling points.

Unique Infrastructures
Oxford college
(Quarter) - Has a large number of slots for Great Works of Writing, and theming bonuses in an Oxford college are more powerful than elsewhere.
Boarding School - Cities with a Boarding School get +1 Science and +1 Culture per Specialist
Pub - Culture base. Generates Inkling Points

Associated Wonder - Big Ben
 
I like my proposal for a United Kingdom civ that goes in a very different direction than previous depictions of England.
I doubt Firaxis will do anything like this, but they should, as language and literature are arguably England's most lasting legacy and consequential impact on the world.
Especially in the Anglosphere today, post-Pax Britannica.
I actually agree with you as far as the language and literature part. I am afraid that it's too 20th century heavy, and I sincerely doubt that most of these would happen due to copyright laws.

If they did want to showcase England's legacy of language and literature, I'd rather them focus on Tudor England and have a unique Playwright: William Shakespeare, Ben Jonson, Cristopher Marlowe etc.
 
I actually agree with you as far as the language and literature part. I am afraid that it's too 20th century heavy, and I sincerely doubt that most of these would happen due to copyright laws.

If they did want to showcase England's legacy of language and literature, I'd rather them focus on Tudor England and have a unique Playwright: William Shakespeare, Ben Jonson, Cristopher Marlowe etc.

I mean there are many more British authors just including the modern period:

Doyle
Wells
Stevenson
Charlotte Bronte
Emily Bronte
Burns
Wilde
Stroker
Mary Shelly
Percy Shelly
Milton
Swift
Defoe
Scott
Austen
Pope
Wollstonecraft
 
I mean there are many more British authors just including the modern period:

Doyle
Wells
Stevenson
Charlotte Bronte
Emily Bronte
Burns
Wilde
Stroker
Mary Shelly
Percy Shelly
Milton
Swift
Defoe
Scott
Austen
Pope
Wollstonecraft
True. However, if the Modern British had to get a unique Great Person, I'd personally rather them go the Scientist/Engineer route. It would align more with their involvement starting the Industrial Revolution
 
True. However, if the Modern British had to get a unique Great Person, I'd personally rather them go the Scientist/Engineer route. It would align more with their involvement starting the Industrial Revolution
Only as long as th 'modern British' include the Scots, who provided a disproportionate percentage of the engineers/mechanics who made the Industrial Revolution work.

But, just in the 'Modern' period, here are at least as many Engineers/Scientists as Writers:
(Those marked * are probably more Engineers than Scientists)
Francis Bacon
Robert Boyle
Christopher Wren*
Isaac Newton
David Hume
Joseph Black
James Watt
John Dalton
Henry Maudsley*
Edmund Cartwright*
Michael Faraday
Charles Babbage
Joseph Paxton*
Isambard Kingdom Brunel*
Charles Darwin
James Young
Ada Lovelace
James Maxwell
John Fleming (vacuum tube)
Alexander Fleming (penicillin)
Paul Dirac
Alan Turing
 
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Only as long as th 'modern British' include the Scots, who provided a disproportionate percentage of the engineers/mechanics who made the Industrial Revolution work.
Yes, I would assume modern Britain/British would encompass the modern-day countries of England, Scotland, Wales, and even Ireland, if they mainly portray it off of the Victorian Era.
Hypothetical England, Scotland, Ireland civs would progress into them.
 
Only as long as th 'modern British' include the Scots, who provided a disproportionate percentage of the engineers/mechanics who made the Industrial Revolution work.

But, just in the 'Modern' period, here are at least as many Engineers/Scientists as Writers:
(Those marked * are probably more Engineers than Scientists)
Francis Bacon
Robert Boyle
Christopher Wren*
Isaac Newton
David Hume
Joseph Black
James Watt
John Dalton
Henry Maudsley*
Edmund Cartwright*
Michael Faraday
Charles Babbage
Joseph Paxton*
Isambard Kingdom Brunel*
Charles Darwin
James Young
Ada Lovelace
James Maxwell
John Fleming (vacuum tube)
Alexander Fleming (penicillin)
Paul Dirac
Alan Turing
With this. England and France should also be Middle Ages civ.
In case of Medieval England. UU shall be Yeomanry. (Superior medieval shooter infantry)
 
I'm going to be wildly unpopular and say that while the Normans wouldn,t have been my choice, having both the Normans and the English in the game as two separate Exploration option both largely (not uniquely for the Normans, but largely) representing England, would be a colossal waste of a civ slot.

There are never enough slots for all the civs we need in the game, and England AND Normans together is one slot wasted.
 
I am beginning to think Britain wont be in the game, which as a brit is depressing. Part of me wants to say i will refuse to buy any brit dlc as a matter of principle but i doubt i will stick to that.

However for the unique units, redcoat as mentioned but i would definitely look at the age of sail for the naval unit.
The problem for me is that i loved seadogs (since capturing prizes was a huge motivation for RN captains) and i loved the royal naval dockyard (since industry was a huge part of why the RN did so well) so i am struggling to think of a better option
I think it's quite impossible that Britain is not in the base game. Britain produced some of the greatest scientist in the history of the world, Sir Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, etc. I can easily see them represented as Unique Civilian Units. Missing them in the base game will be a crime.
 
I'm going to be wildly unpopular and say that while the Normans wouldn,t have been my choice, having both the Normans and the English in the game as two separate Exploration option both largely (not uniquely for the Normans, but largely) representing England, would be a colossal waste of a civ slot.

There are never enough slots for all the civs we need in the game, and England AND Normans together is one slot wasted.
I kind of agree, and for that reason, maybe we’ll never see England, which is a shame. The Normans aren’t a civ that particularly excites me, so I'd choose England every time if I could. Even though it’s a low priority right now, I’d still like to see England included later in the development cycle.
 
I'm going to be wildly unpopular and say that while the Normans wouldn,t have been my choice, having both the Normans and the English in the game as two separate Exploration option both largely (not uniquely for the Normans, but largely) representing England, would be a colossal waste of a civ slot.

There are never enough slots for all the civs we need in the game, and England AND Normans together is one slot wasted.
And Normandia here represents different kingdoms and duchies that never came under single unified rules. Guilliame de Normandie, as King of England only rules England and Northern France (Normandie), but not Norman Sicily.
and Rogier II was vice versa.
 
Civilizations have never been defined by unified rule, so that's not a relevant point ; it's clear from the wonder choice and from Ed Beach'S description that the Normans are primarily there for the Anglo-Normans, and secondarily for the rest.
 
I kind of agree, and for that reason, maybe we’ll never see England, which is a shame. The Normans aren’t a civ that particularly excites me, so I'd choose England every time if I could. Even though it’s a low priority right now, I’d still like to see England included later in the development cycle.
As much as I'd like to see an Exploration Age England too, I'm under the impression that the only inclusion it might get is through a leader like Elizabeth.
 
I'm going to be wildly unpopular and say that while the Normans wouldn,t have been my choice, having both the Normans and the English in the game as two separate Exploration option both largely (not uniquely for the Normans, but largely) representing England, would be a colossal waste of a civ slot.

There are never enough slots for all the civs we need in the game, and England AND Normans together is one slot wasted.
I disagree. As may be apparent from my post history, I'm a bit of an Anglophile, and would love for Civ VII to end up having half a dozen or more civs from the British Isles:

Antiquity
Britons

Exploration Age
Anglo-Saxons (pre-1066)
Britain (post-1707 Union)
England (pre-1707 Union)
Normans
Scotland
Wales

Modern Age
Ireland
United Kingdom
 
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