Two civilizations in BtS really bother me. The Native Americans and Holy Roman Empire. These are NOT civilizations. The Holy Roman Empire (HRE) was a collection of nations (mostly German princes) whose citizens felt very little if any allegiance to the Holy Roman Emperor. The HRE's ruler held very little actual power due to the nature of the organization. Voltaire put it best when he described the HRE as being "neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire". Native American is not a civilization either. The Sioux, Iroquois, Cherokee, Creek and other Native American (Amerindian, Indian, take your pick) tribes were all unique in some form or another even if they were similar in some ways. I'm sure this has been brought up in some form or another already, but I've been away from the forums for a significant period of time and thus have not seen any discussion about it. So I'm interested to see what everyone thinks about this, hence the poll.