Bug or feature? Giving a culture bomb to a city state as John Curtin

benelldee

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I'm playing as John Curtin and just unlocked outback stations, so I'm putting them down everywhere – the best spots are along my border with Cahokia as there are a couple of tiles that are next to three potential pastures. Only problem is, two of these are inside Cahokia's territory, and for whatever reason, they haven't improved them so I don't get the adjacency bonus.
I decided to just become their suzerain and go in and do it myself, but when I did, even though it was not in my territory, placing a pasture triggered the culture bomb for Cahokia who therefore stole several tiles from me.

Is this an oversight, or is this how that's supposed to work? It seems mad to me that a city state can benefit from your own culture bomb effect, and since pastures are so important for Australia it's odd to me that you wouldn't be able to improve them in city state territory without messing up your own borders.
 
A culture bomb is a feature of a pasture built as Australia, and the ability description does not indicate that the effect is limited to Australian territory, so everything seems to be working as intended - you build the pasture so the effect triggers. Inconvenient for you, maybe, but definitely not a bug, and probably not an oversight.
 
A culture bomb is meant to increase YOUR territory though, otherwise what's the point, so there's definitely an "oversight" whatever that means. :D
According to the text it reads "Building a pasture triggers a culture bomb claiming surrounding tiles." So nowhere does it say that it is limited to your territory, though you are right that in most cases it should be. I admit I've never improved friendly city-state territory, so I never knew this could happen.

All I could think of was how good of John Curtin for helping the natives get their land back though. :mischief:
 
I've never improved city state land with my UI before. I have done farms before to complete farming triangles in my own territory. Sometimes they take forever completing improvements.
 
Works as intended.
<Modifiers>
<Row>
<ModifierId>TRAIT_CULTURE_BOMB_TRIGGER_PASTURE</ModifierId>
<ModifierType>MODIFIER_PLAYER_ADD_CULTURE_BOMB_TRIGGER</ModifierType>
</Row>

The modifier is attached to the player, so pasture improvements created by you will trigger "a" culture bomb. It is never mentioned who should receive the tiles, its rather logical that surrounding tiles will be claimed by the owner of the pasture tile. I guess that is concept of a culture bomb is generally applied, so I wouldnt even consider it spaghetti code. Inconvenient, yes.
 
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