Buildings and Wonder Design

[Psychic_Llamas]

yes cauldron of blood... make it a national wonder for the darkelves which increases strength of units produced in the city...

 

[DutchJunkie]

yes cauldron of blood... make it a national wonder for the darkelves which increases strength of units produced in the city...

Same as Cauldron of Blood is the Screaming Bell for Skaven, Casket of Souls for Tomb Kings, Anvil of Doom for Dwarfs and maybe more ..

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

hmmm... the possibilities are endless...

I was actually think about this.why not make these imobile units?

the casket of souls: every time an enemy dies withing the LoS of the casket, there is a 25% chance that that soul can be used by the casket.
the casket's damage increses by one for every soul captured.
the casket can bombard any unit in LoS?

not sure about the others.

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

sorry, back on track now

so how about those wonders...

 

[DutchJunkie]

I watched the Warhammer map i got with a White Dwarf some time ago and found some names:

Things in Naggaroth:
- The Monoliths
- Hotek's Column
- Doom, Hex, Wrath and Witch Gate
- Altar of Ultimate Darkness
- Vaul's Anvil
- The Pits of Zardok

Ulthuan:
- Phoenix, Griffon, Unicorn, Eagle and Dragon Gate
- Vaul's Anvil
- Shrine of Asuryan
- Tower of Hoeth

Araby:
- Palace of the Wizard Caliph
- Spite Port
- Pools of Despair

Lustria:
- Stellar Pyramids
- Citadel of Dusk
- Monument of the Moon
- Monument of the sun
- Temple of Constellations
- Spear of the Gods
- Mirror Pool of Tepoc
- Tomb of Gold
- Obsidian Column

Southlands:
- Deaths-head Monliths
- Guardian States of Ancient Gods
- Golden Tower of the Gods
- Temple-Avenue of Gold
- Smoking Caverns of Sotek
- Fortress of Dawn
- Temple of Skulls

Islands:
- Tor Elasor
- Tower of Stars
- Tower of the Sun
- Tor Elithis
- The lost isles of Elithis
- Dragon Isles

Nippon
- Tower of the Rising Sun

Seagates:
- Gates of Calith

Hinterlans of Khuresh
- Lost City of the Old Ones

Grand Cathay:
- Seat of the Dragon Throne
- The Great Maw
- Great Bastion (the Great Wall in Warhammer)

The Dark Lands:
- Black Fortress
- The Tower of Gorgoth
- The Tower of Zharr-Maggrund
- Grashrack's Lair
- The Fortress of Vorag
- The Desolation of Drakenmoor
- The Great Skull Land
- Place of Skulls

Land of the dead:
- Palace of Corpses
- Black Pyramid of Nagash
- The Lost hold of Karak Zorn
- Crater of the Dead

Badlands:
- The Cursed Pit

The Old World
- The Moot
- Copper Mountain
- Troll Country

and many names for mountains, marshes, swaps, plains etcetera ..

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Brilliant list there DJ. im sure at least half of those would make goo wonders. and we already have some. not sure if these are all of them though

the Doom, Hex, Wrath and Witch Gates are part of the underpass
Shrine of Asuryan already in
Griffon Gate already in
Shrine of Asuryan already in
Tower of Hoeth - called the white tower
Great Bastion already in
Black Pyramid of Nagash already in

 

[Duke van Frost]

I watched the Warhammer map i got with a White Dwarf some time ago and found some names:

Things in Naggaroth:
- The Monoliths
- Hotek's Column
- Doom, Hex, Wrath and Witch Gate
- Altar of Ultimate Darkness
- Vaul's Anvil
- The Pits of Zardok

Ulthuan:
- Phoenix, Griffon, Unicorn, Eagle and Dragon Gate
- Vaul's Anvil
- Shrine of Asuryan
- Tower of Hoeth

Araby:
- Palace of the Wizard Caliph
- Spite Port
- Pools of Despair

Lustria:
- Stellar Pyramids
- Citadel of Dusk
- Monument of the Moon
- Monument of the sun
- Temple of Constellations
- Spear of the Gods
- Mirror Pool of Tepoc
- Tomb of Gold
- Obsidian Column

Southlands:
- Deaths-head Monliths
- Guardian States of Ancient Gods
- Golden Tower of the Gods
- Temple-Avenue of Gold
- Smoking Caverns of Sotek
- Fortress of Dawn
- Temple of Skulls

Islands:
- Tor Elasor
- Tower of Stars
- Tower of the Sun
- Tor Elithis
- The lost isles of Elithis
- Dragon Isles

Nippon
- Tower of the Rising Sun

Seagates:
- Gates of Calith

Hinterlans of Khuresh
- Lost City of the Old Ones

Grand Cathay:
- Seat of the Dragon Throne
- The Great Maw
- Great Bastion (the Great Wall in Warhammer)

The Dark Lands:
- Black Fortress
- The Tower of Gorgoth
- The Tower of Zharr-Maggrund
- Grashrack's Lair
- The Fortress of Vorag
- The Desolation of Drakenmoor
- The Great Skull Land
- Place of Skulls

Land of the dead:
- Palace of Corpses
- Black Pyramid of Nagash
- The Lost hold of Karak Zorn
- Crater of the Dead

Badlands:
- The Cursed Pit

The Old World
- The Moot
- Copper Mountain
- Troll Country

and many names for mountains, marshes, swaps, plains etcetera ..

Maybe you could make some suggestions, which of those could be used to rename the "vanilla like wonders" we have in the game, that would be a big help (have a look at post #2).

 

[DutchJunkie]

true .. I'll give it a try tomorrow .. I'll post the ideas in this post tomorrow ..

 

[Ploeperpengel]

@Duke
I took out all the civrelated text I might change of this. You can play with it to your liking now.

 

[DutchJunkie]

true .. I'll give it a try tomorrow .. I'll post the ideas in this post tomorrow ..

Here the world wonders. I couldn't fill up every spot, but i made some suggestions.

World Wonders
Angkor Wat - - Mark of the Old Ones or Lost City of the Old Ones
Globe Theatre - - Tristan's Theatre (made up - inspired by te bretonnian tristan the troubadour)
Hermitage - - Kislev or Empire museum
Heroic Epic - - is a common name. The heroic epic of {famous person of that race}
Ironworks - - is a common name? The Ironworks of Karak …. (dwarf hold)
National Epic - - is a common name. The national epic of {name country}
Notre Dame - - Shrine of the Holy Grail (bretonnian .. French-like)
Oxford University - - 8 Colleges of Magic
Palace - - The Throne of .. {name country}
Stonehenge - - Guardian States of Ancient Gods of Temple of Constellations
The Colossus - - Spite port (not a big thing .. but it's a harbour I think)
The Great Library - - The Black Library (not that original)
The Hagia Sophia - - Should be an Araby wonder
The Parthenon - - A lustrian temple
The Taj Mahal - - Monument of the grave of a famous person
Wall Street - - Tomb of Gold or The Great Bazzar (ty PL )
West Point - - The Tilean War Academy (Tilea is home of the mercenaries)

Extra's
Palace of the Wizard Caliph

I hope you like some of the ideas! Don't be afraid to give comment

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Wall Street - - the Great bazzar

 

[Ploeperpengel]

@Duke
Please delete all the textentries for traits also in the objecttextinfo file posted above, thx.

 

[Duke van Frost]

I personally like the following things DJ stated:

Globe Theatre - - Tristan's Theatre

Notre Dame - - Shrine of the Holy Grail

The Great Library - - The Black Library

Wall Street - - Great Bazaar

West Point - - The Tilean War Academy

 

[DutchJunkie]

I personally like the following things DJ stated:

Globe Theatre - - Tristan's Theatre

Notre Dame - - Shrine of the Holy Grail

The Great Library - - The Black Library

Wall Street - - Great Bazaar

West Point - - The Tilean War Academy

Thanks. Tristan is a famous Bretonnian entertainer and Tilea is home of the merceneries

Personally I like this ones very much too:

Lost City of the Old Ones as Angkor Wat; Angkor Wat is like an unimaginable big 'city' of temples. Looks like they're made by (the) god(s). The lost city of the old Ones state the same in my opinion .. it gives the same feeling.

Temple of Constellations as Stonehenge; stonehenge has a link with the planets and the temple of constellations states the same thing. It's based on the stars: constellations.

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

I like your thinking DJ, good call

 

[Duke van Frost]

Thanks. Tristan is a famous Bretonnian entertainer and Tilea is home of the merceneries

Personally I like this ones very much too:

Lost City of the Old Ones as Angkor Wat; Angkor Wat is like an unimaginable big 'city' of temples. Looks like they're made by (the) god(s). The lost city of the old Ones state the same in my opinion .. it gives the same feeling.

Temple of Constellations as Stonehenge; stonehenge has a link with the planets and the temple of constellations states the same thing. It's based on the stars: constellations.

I don´t know if you mean "The Temple-city of Tlaxtlan" when you´re talking abou the "Lost City of the old ones". It´s much like the RL "Tenochtitlan" but is the capital of the lizardmen

If so, then I already took two wonders that are in this city as wonders - the "floating gardens of lost Xholankha" and the "Great temple of Tlazcotl".

SAnd If not, I would rather stick to 2 wonders from the Lizardmen and prefer to take some more wonders from other races/nations.

Temple of Constellations is ok, but only if it has the stonehenge look - otherwise I would prefer just a simple "Standing Stones".

I also really liked the Theatre of Tristan and the Tilean thing

keep the input coming - maybe something from the Darkelves or Dwarves (such as the shrine of Grimnir and so).

 

[DutchJunkie]

I don´t know if you mean "The Temple-city of Tlaxtlan" when you´re talking abou the "Lost City of the old ones". It´s much like the RL "Tenochtitlan" but is the capital of the lizardmen

If so, then I already took two wonders that are in this city as wonders - the "floating gardens of lost Xholankha" and the "Great temple of Tlazcotl".

SAnd If not, I would rather stick to 2 wonders from the Lizardmen and prefer to take some more wonders from other races/nations.

Lost City of the old ones lies in the east, in the forests/jungles of the plateau between the kingdoms of Ind and Nippon. The forests are inhabited by Beastmen an its a scary place .. most likely no one of the 'civilised' world has ever seen the city, but it is there somewhere.

Temple of Constellations is ok, but only if it has the stonehenge look - otherwise I would prefer just a simple "Standing Stones".

Dunno mhow it looks like through the eyes of the warhammer fluff-writers @ games-workshop, but we (not me .. but the technical guys ) can give it ant look we want

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Yeh, the Lost City is in Real world Thailand.

Also, the Lizardmen capital is Itza, not Tlaxtlan.

Darkelves (like ive said before) should get the Underways. a wonder that connects all current cities with an underground transport link, increasing trade and defence of those cities. any new cities built should not get the benifit unless they build the Underpass ( a building unlocked by the Underways)
Darkelves should also get Alter of Ultimate Darkness, or the Black Pillar. not too sure what they could do though.

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Yeh, the Lost City is in Real world Thailand.

Also, the Lizardmen capital is Itza, not Tlaxtlan.

Darkelves (like ive said before) should get the Underways. a wonder that connects all current cities with an underground transport link, increasing trade and defence of those cities. any new cities built should not get the benifit unless they build the Underpass ( a building unlocked by the Underways)
Darkelves should also get Alter of Ultimate Darkness, or the Black Pillar. not too sure what they could do though.

Isn't the Altar Chaosspecific? If not that would be a good wonder to race for between some of the evil races.

 

[DutchJunkie]

Isn't the Altar Chaosspecific? If not that would be a good wonder to race for between some of the evil races.

It lies in Naggartoh .. and Dark Elves are kinda Chaos .. many (especially the witch elves) worship the chaos god Khorne. I think PL's alternatives are quite good. The Altar could be some sort of link with the immortal world, to make the elves closer to the gods. Maybe It can give more experience for new units?