Bush concedes mistakes in Iraq...

[pboily]

I'm currently watching the CBC news (can't find the text on the Internet yet, but I will add a link).

Candid admissions of some mistakes (lack of WMD, "Bring-it-on" tough talk, Abu Gharib, etc...)

Anybody else seeing this?

EDIT: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/25/bush.blair/index.html

not quite the same emphasis in the coverage from South of the border, I must say.

I'm a sucker for people admitting they are not all-knowing. He puts it like that in the first place (or whenever scandals are exposed), maybe I support his actions more often...

 

[Norseman2]

Holy really coolness. That's hard to believe, I thought that guy would go to his grave thinking his piss was perfume.

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[GenMarshall]

Is this true? Hmm, I am going to have to read closer into this thread .

 

[pboily]

Is this true? Hmm, I am going to have to read closer into this thread .

well, unless the CBC has hired some very good Bush and Blair impersonators, it's true...
I'll post the transcript when it's available.

 

[Alpine Trooper]

Well this is much like a five year old saying he is sorry after he's stolen the chocolate bar and eaten it. It doesn't really matter, doesn't change much, and there's not much you can do.

 

[bhsup]

Well this is much like a five year old saying he is sorry after he's stolen the chocolate bar and eaten it. It doesn't really matter, doesn't change much, and there's not much you can do.

Actually, there is a lot you can do with that. As I happen to have done that when I was a small child, I have first hand experience. Pa can make you come down to the store you swiped it from, make you first tell the stmore manager that you stole from the store then apologize and pay for the candy bar (he gave me the money to do it, then gave me extra chores ).

I'm not really sure if there is an analogy there or not...

 

[The Yankee]

Eh, who would be Pa?

Still, a step up from the rabid refusal to say anything has ever gone wrong.

 

[CaptainF]

I was listening to the radio of a press conference with him and Tony Blair, and he was saying the same old crap.

Its good that he is acknowledging mistakes, but it makes you wonder if he is doing it because his approval ratings are not just down the crapper, but in the septic tank.

He is a politician, so my cynicism is valid.

 

[A'AbarachAmadan]

Finally. They never admit to lying, just making mistakes. I believe them and have thought this the case for a long time. Of course mistakes were made, but I don't believe they lied to take us into war in Iraq.

I'm also always amazed about people's view of Mr. Blair. I remember when he was elected my father, father-in-law, and other extreme conservatives I know bemoaning his election as a liberal Clinton clone. Now US Republicans seem to like him and US Democrats think he is a Bush clone.

 

[pboily]

Actually, there is a lot you can do with that. As I happen to have done that when I was a small child, I have first hand experience. Pa can make you come down to the store you swiped it from, make you first tell the stmore manager that you stole from the store then apologize and pay for the candy bar (he gave me the money to do it, then gave me extra chores ).

I'm not really sure if there is an analogy there or not...

I'm with Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Agent here. The 5 year-old kid who fesses up is probably less likely to do it again, right VR?

Besides, we've been crapping on the Administration and their sympathizers/lackeys to own up to the less, ahem, morally justifiable actions they've taken. When they actually go through with it, we can be big men/women about it and accept their "apology". It doesn't excuse the so-called actions, but it's a first step.

 

[pboily]

I was listening to the radio of a press conference with him and Tony Blair, and he was saying the same old crap.

Its good that he is acknowledging mistakes, but it makes you wonder if he is doing it because his approval ratings are not just down the crapper, but in the septic tank.

He is a politician, so my cynicism is valid.

Of course, but the realization by his entourage that acknowledging mistakes is a good way to get his approval rate up is a pretty good sign, wouldn't you say?

 

[VoodooAce]

I have to say that I was, actually, impressed with our president for the very first time. He was obviously sincere. Might his job have sobered and matured him some little bit?

Admitting that the 'bring it on' talk was over the top is something I never expected from him. Would he do it if he were up for reelection in 2K8? I doubt it, but still.

Also, in politics and international diplomacy, you never really know what is what. This may be his way of trying to make amends with the rest of the world and western europe in particular. Regardless, a step forward, is a step forward.

Good for you, Mr. President.

 

[The Yankee]

Regardless if it's for politics or not or whether it will work for any kind of positives in the polls or not, I agree that this was a good thing. Went back and read some news stories on the web since I wasn't able to catch it on TV (too busy playing Romance of the Three Kingdoms), I have to say "Bravo."

 

[Red Stranger]

The clips CNN showed tried to make Bush and Blaire look like homosexual lovers. They used words like "their special relatioship," and "we both used Colgate," "what would you miss about him." "Prime Minister, can I buy you dinner?"

 

[FriendlyFire]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- British Prime Minister Tony Blair and President Bush acknowledged that the war in Iraq hasn't gone as smoothly as they had hoped,

eh ok not as smoothly as hoped.

‘The Implication That There Was Something Wrong with the War Plan is Amusing’ - April 20, 2006
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[C~G]

The headline is happy one.
When was the last time when war went smoothly?
It's nice touch especially considering the civil victims of the war. I guess they were just bump in the road in a way to gas station, nothing more.

There are always complications when you go to war and if you weren't prepared for them it is nothing but stupidity.

And yet I'm failing to see where Bush really admits errors. All he does is that he regrets some things that has happened and finds excuses to file why he did so at that point.

Only error they really admit is that they didn't think opponents would be so tough. In this case they refer opponents being terrorists and they don't give up the fight.
So after all we are back to square one.

What comes to Rumsfeld, it's clear he doesn't give a flying pie.

It's politics man, politics.

 

[Neomega]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5016548.stm

Bush made three apologies:

1. wanted.. dead or alive (not sure what was wrong with that statement myself

2. Bring 'em on (yeah that was stupid, and now he apologized for it, allthough I am sure bushpologists still think it was an awesome statement showing the terrorists how tough we were, and people who think it was wrong are big liberal weenies, which now means president Bush is a big liberal weenie)

3. Abu Gharaib - I am not sure what he was apologizing for, it obvioulsy made Iraq more difficult, but what is he apologizing for? Perhaps for the administration's cavalier attitude towards it? Or was it supposed to be a national apology for the way our troops conducted themselves?

You can find a video of it here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/25.html#a8443

 

[C~G]

You are probably talking about subject that has already thread done and in progress:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=172336

 

[Neomega]

EDIT: You linked to the same thread.
probably dead now that it's linked

 

[The Yankee]

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