Bush is a Good Dude

[brainpan]

nah, good dude is a pretty vague term.

Hence the need for elaboration.

So far, you have defended your position with an undefined "bein' nice" and "helpin' out," to which you have now added "throw words like moral and ethics in there."

This really doesn't help make your case. Only a very few people, if any, are completely devoid of morals and ethics, so Bush must be exceptional enough in these categories to warrant a tag of "good dude." Again, this need elaboration.

Well, it's more then once. But generally only good dudes get the presidental position

Without elaboration, this is a meaningless statement. But I strongly suspect, even with a "good dude" clarification, this is not a logical assumption.

Well people keep slaggin' him like he's some sorta monster n' stuff but he's not evil or nothin' so he dun deserve it.

Take responsibility for your own statements. If people unfairly malign Bush, that doesn't assist your arguments that he's "good." I haven't called Bush a monster.

 

[LightFang]

Government has pretty much been in debt since about the Great Depression, though.

 

[JollyRoger]

Tax cuts. Contrary to popular belief, not only the rich got tax cuts. I got one and I bought new house funiture with it.

You only got a big enough tax cut to buy furniture? Bush showed me much more love than that.

 

[Perfection]

Hence the need for elaboration.

So far, you have defended your position with an undefined "bein' nice" and "helpin' out," to which you have now added "throw words like moral and ethics in there."

This really doesn't help make your case. Only a very few people, if any, are completely devoid of morals and ethics, so Bush must be exceptional enough in these categories to warrant a tag of "good dude." Again, this need elaboration.

Most dudes are good dudes.

Without elaboration, this is a meaningless statement. But I strongly suspect, even with a "good dude" clarification, this is not a logical assumption.

Of course not, I dun try to logically define everything. It's an intuitive thing that I think most people who aren't dunderheads understand.

Take responsibility for your own statements. If people unfairly malign Bush, that doesn't assist your arguments that he's "good." I haven't called Bush a monster.

But others do, I was more talkin' aboot them then you.

 

[Japanrocks12]

Government has pretty much been in debt since about the Great Depression, though.

minus the surpluses of the Clinton years, of course

 

[LightFang]

Hence why I said "pretty much" and not "all" ;D

 

[Perfection]

Government has pretty much been in debt since about the Great Depression, though.

Lil' debt is all well and happy and good. Gov'ment should be in a bit o' debt. But Bushy make big debt and big debt is not so happy and good at all.

 

[MobBoss]

You only got a big enough tax cut to buy furniture? Bush showed me much more love than that.

It was really good furniture. Heh.

 

[Ecofarm]

@Brainpan

In case you do not go back and read earlier posts by other people giving reasons "why":

His motives are genuine (he truely believes that democracy will save the world). (and so do I)
He is a sober man.
He supports his family.
He recognizes his shortcommings.
He has the most diverse cabinet in history.

There's a few reasons for you.

 

[MobBoss]

@Brainpan

In case you do not go back and read earlier posts by other people giving reasons "why":

His motives are genuine (he truely believes that democracy will save the world). (and so do I)
He is a sober man.
He supports his family.
He recognizes his shortcommings.
He has the most diverse cabinet in history.

There's a few reasons for you.

He is very loyal to his friends.

 

[JollyRoger]

He is very loyal to his friends.

That's why Harriet Meirs is a Supreme Court Justice and Alberto Gonzales is still Attorney General.

 

[Japanrocks12]

His motives are genuine (he truely believes that democracy will save the world). (and so do I)

so you're saying his motives wouldn't be genuine if they didn't align with yours?

that's a bit pretentious

 

[Ecofarm]

That's why Harriet Meirs is a Supreme Court Justice and Alberto Gonzales is still Attorney General.

Harriet Meirs was just a diversion. She was a moderate who was only put forth by Bush in order to say "hey, I tried", and then slide a conservative in there. He pulled one over on the democrats there.

Gonzo resigned despite Bush's support that he remain in office. Bush said he was not happy with Gonzo's decision, but would accept it.

 

[Ecofarm]

so you're saying his motives wouldn't be genuine if they didn't align with yours?

that's a bit pretentious

No, that is not what I'm saying (see title). I'm not saying that you have to agree with someone in order to see them as a 'good dude', but I acknowledge that it helps. I just added that I agree with him - which influences my opinion of him as a "good dude". If you do not agree with someone AT ALL, then I think it is probably hard to see them as a 'good dude'. Someone that you completely disagree with is likely seen as an 'enemy' and demonized. Of course, agreeing with someone on one subject does not automatically make them a 'good dude'.

Clear now?

 

[FriendlyFire]

His motives are genuine
He is a sober man.
He supports his family.
He recognizes his shortcommings.
He has the most diverse cabinet in history.

There's a few reasons for you.

I feel he has a dangerous messiashic complex
I think the damage has been done
Hes family supports him
He dose ?
Sure hows rumsfield, wolfetwitz, Fieth, Brown ? All suplicants

 

[Gogf]

On rare occassion, I hear people make pronouncements like this. But I have trouble finding anyone able to elaborate on that statement. Few Bush apologists are still up to the task of offering a defense of his policies and have retreated to an undefined "good dude" position. So what, exactly, does this mean? Flesh out this "Good dude" argument. Perfection? The floor is yours.

I'll take a crack at it. Do you honestly believe that George W. Bush is not doing what he thinks is best for the country?

 

[JollyRoger]

Harriet Meirs was just a diversion. She was a moderate who was only put forth by Bush in order to say "hey, I tried", and then slide a conservative in there. He pulled one over on the democrats there.

I wouldn't consider it a sign of loyalty for a friemd to push me out as a distraction knowing that I would be nationally ridiculed for lack of qualification.

I wouldn't consider it loyal friendship to make me a distraction subject to criticsm from extremists on both sides of the political landscape.
Gonzo resigned despite Bush's support that he remain in office. Bush said he was not happy with Gonzo's decision, but would accept it.

Gonzo was pushed out at the earliest moment that it could be argued that he wasn't pushed out. Bush's statements regarding Gonzo are said just about anytime a pushed out appointee "resigns."

 

[brainpan]

I'll take a crack at it. Do you honestly believe that George W. Bush is not doing what he thinks is best for the country?

Offering a negative propostion doesn't explain your position, and the burden of proof is upon the one making an assertion. If you believe "Bush is a good dude," you need to explain why. It is not for me to tell you what your argument is.

 

[skadistic]

Bush is eco-friendly in his personal life. His ranch is far more 'green' then Gores mega-mansion.

 

[Irish Caesar]

minus the surpluses of the Clinton years, of course

Hence why I said "pretty much" and not "all" ;D

Just so y'all don't have the wrong idea, the US was still heavily in debt during the Clinton years, the budget simply wasn't running a deficit the entire time.