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Byzantine religion builds

Discussion in 'Strategy Section' started by black213, May 11, 2020.

  1. black213

    black213 Emperor

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    Beliefs being always available and the additional belief allow for some creativity. Feel free to share your favourite builds.
     
  2. Rhys DeAnno

    Rhys DeAnno Warlord

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    I think especially on Immortal+ the consistency of Byz is very strong. You always can take the Pantheon you want, and even if it's not too Faithful or you run into various delays you know you will get a Religion. Considering that if you go for a Religion and miss with other civs it's almost a death sentence thats a strong bonus.

    As for Belief combos, I feel like Founders tend to be the strongest. Council of Elders + Apolistic lets you double dip on religion spread bonuses for example. Also you're guaranteed to get Symbolism even if you dawdle on enhancing to spread first.
     
  3. zeofig

    zeofig Chieftain

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    There are lots of cool builds. One thing I like is God of All Creation with authority, and rush horses to spam tribute and bully CS. GOAC gives you a huge bonus with absolutely no effort beyond one shrine, and it really helps get your tribute rolling. Byzantines fix GOAC's "problem" of being unable to found. Then you rush to chivalry while gathering xp on your horses. You don't need too many cities, since you actually want your neighbours to overextend and get rekt by cataphracts. Hero worship is nice. Council of elders can give you science/prod just when you need it too. This kind of GOAC strat can be interesting with progress/tradition too.
     
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  4. black213

    black213 Emperor

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    I'm all too familiar with this Byz gameplan :) GOAC is very nice assistance for Authority starts. When I found I do Hero Worship + Veneration + Zealotry, Orders + Mendicancy(?) for enhancer.
     
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  5. Thibix Magnus

    Thibix Magnus Chieftain

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    something I really enjoyed for an OCC Byzantium - I guess works well for a few cities too - was ceremonial + apostolic + prophecy + ttgog. Once missionaries have spread what they could, you follow up with cheaper prophets. So you keep benefitting from apostolic a lot longer while fighting with the AI over the same cities, while you defend your religion size for ceremonial faith yields for more prophets. Cheaper prophets trigger ceremonial more often, more food means more specialists so more great people, etc. Really cool little feedback loop for a small civ that needs yields outside of its borders.
     
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  6. crdvis16

    crdvis16 Emperor

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    Super spreader:

    Pantheon = Situational (whatever helps you found quickly, don't delay founding just because you can)
    Founder = Apostolic Tradition (food+culture from missionary spread)
    Bonus = Council of Elders (production+science on city convert)
    Followers = Whatever you want
    Enhancer = Sacred Calendar or Symbolism (both give more potent spreading)
    Reformation = Whatever you want

    Target Borobudur for 3x missionary spread, Hagia to get your prophet without having to stop buying missionaries. Use Byz's naturally high faith generation to missionary bomb everyone while getting a huge steroid to food/culture/science/production in the mid game. Be sure to capitalize on those yields as they don't scale great later on. Converting the world to your religion has benefits toward diplo and tourism victories.

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    Great People Stacking:

    Pantheon = Situational (whatever helps you found quickly, don't delay founding just because you can). Commerce, Beauty, and Wisdom might work especially well with their great people point bonuses.
    Founder = Ceremonial Burial (culture/faith on great person use)
    Bonus = To the Glory of God (buy any great person with faith)
    Followers = Whatever you want
    Enhancer = Sacred Calendar or Symbolism (both give bonuses to great person generation)
    Reformation = Knowledge through Devotion (great person tile buffs)

    Goes well with Tradition for even more great people generation. Byz's high faith begets great person buying which begets more faith, culture, and buffed great person tiles.

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    Wide Sacred/Holy Sites:

    Pantheon = Situational (whatever helps you found quickly, don't delay founding just because you can).
    Founder = Apostolic Tradition (food+culture from missionary spread)
    Bonus = Way of the Pilgrim (tourism+culture from missionary spread)
    Followers = faith buildings (one should be Stupa, the other is situational)
    Enhancer = Prophecy (buffed Holy Sites, cheaper prophets)
    Reformation = Sacred Sites

    The idea is to win a culture/tourism victory while wide and not necessarily relying on culture/tourism wonders. Progress-Fealty supports wide while also giving you the extra faith building. Sacred Sites + 3 faith buildings gives a nice base of tourism that comes online early in the game when tourism is scarce. Apostolic and Pilgrim give a nice source of culture to help power you to 2x tier 3 tenets (you blow through your first two trees very fast). Pilgrim can also help generate tourism via spreading. Last, buffed Holy Sites from Prophecy (they also get +5 tourism/GA points from the 2 reformation buildings!) coupled with Hotel/Airport/National Visitor Center/Olympic proposal wonder convert culture tiles to tourism (stack holy sites at your capital). I'm currently trying to get this working on Immortal, it sounds reasonable in theory but we'll see if it works.
     
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  7. andersw

    andersw King

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    Should be very strong in theory but for some reason my Byzantium games havent been that awesome.
    Council of E+one more founder is always a good bet as Byz imo, either you go peaceful and spread to others or you go wide and spread to a lot of own cities.
    Either way you're fine and holy sites will get very juicy.
     

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