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Byzantium by Dumanios

Discussion in 'Civ4 - New Civilizations' started by Dumanios, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. Dumanios

    Dumanios MLG

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    The Byzantine Empire is the Heir to Rome, the center of the Orthodox Faith, and another weird faction, as it shares its capital with Turkey, and it's core with Greece and Turkey. Nevertheless, I still made this civ, with it evolving into Romania later on.


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    Row 1: Worker, Scout, Explorer, Warrior, Swordsman
    Row 2: Axeman, Maceman, Spearman, Pikeman, Musketman
    Row 3: Marine, Archer, Longbowman, Crossbowman, Horseman
    Row 4: Katapraktoi, Cuirassier, Cavalry, War Elephant, Jet Fighter


    Use Greek Fire here!

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    Scout, Explorer, Cavalry, War Elephant: Ethnicae

    Swordsman, Axeman, Spearman, Archer, Horseman: Bakuel's Early Byzantines

    Maceman, Pikeman, Longbowman, Crossbowman, Katapraktoi: Bakuel's Medieval Byzantines

    Musketman, Cuirassier: Bakuel's Renaissance Byzantines

    Marine: Romanian UU from Civ Gold

    Jet Fighter: Earth 2010 scenario
     
  2. PAVLOS_GR300

    PAVLOS_GR300 Greek

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    because it is obvius that u dont know much around the greek and ottoman history i should inform u that the greeks werent under the control of the byzantine empire they were the byzantine empire(greek emperors,greek languarge,greek population,greek religion,greek names...) and of course u should not use the turkish units for them because they came in the area in 1000 aC and they were enemies.in my opinion there is no need for byzantium civ just and adding of their units to the greek civ
     
  3. Dumanios

    Dumanios MLG

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    Oy, I never really believed that Byzantium was exclusively Greek, they were a Greco-Roman Empire. That's why my Roman and Greek civs have Byzantine units. And if you don't support adding the Byzantines to the game, then take the issue to Firaxis, the Byzantine were in Conquests and Beyond the Sword.
     
  4. PAVLOS_GR300

    PAVLOS_GR300 Greek

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    what i say is qualified by international historians. we have a greek empire which the only similirity with roman empire is the name of the empire which was also writen in greek(basilia ton romaion).even the civ of rome how "roman" do u think it was??all the architect languarge religion ,naval army ,philosofers ,science... were greek. do u know that konstantinople was firstly named second rome but byzantium named it konstantinople.
     
  5. Lone Wolf

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    I predicted that will arise the ire of someone Greek on that fora as soon as I saw that sentence. Anyway, while that statement is indeed rather gilb (there was no separate "Greek" identity that felt ethnically oppressed by Constantinople), there's no need to start a nationalistic flame war about it.
     
  6. Dumanios

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    I will admit, the statement was at least slightly dickish, to be honest.
     
  7. PAVLOS_GR300

    PAVLOS_GR300 Greek

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    there is no nationalist fight.i will just talk about a matter knowned as the makedonian.do u know why it had begone?the communist tito named the south yugoslavia macedonia(1950~).the greeks(the real makedonians didnt do anything back then so we are today the slavs wanting to steal a part of our history with no historical proves and they support that they own makedonia because we didnt complain back then(around 1950).we didnt say anything in 1950 because we had a huge civil war and we though that it was something to bother later.

    what i say is that that the same way skopje claims makedonia ,bulgaria tried to claim byzantium as theirs.(why do u think many balkan states have the greek eagle on their flag?)all of them came in 1000 aC and they havent got any ethnic identity so they want to steal the greek one which is large.so if we dont talk at every chance who knows what may happen
     
  8. PAVLOS_GR300

    PAVLOS_GR300 Greek

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    the reason i posted want to just criticize and try to learn something to one person as it wont make any change.what i wanted was just to help him to make his mod more historical acurate and to know that by this way the other people who join the forum will see it and make false opinions about us.i make no offense i dont talk as a nationalist i just love history

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