C2C : Empire Earth

Azurian · Oct 9, 2013

Explore. Expand. Exploit. Exterminate. Evolve. Enlightment.

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svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/theempireearth/code/

Empire Earth is an Add mommod for Caveman 2 Cosmos that adds new content from the Prehistoric Era to the Galactic Era, inspired by the game Empire Earth :The Art of Conquest developed by Stainless Steel Studios and Mad Doc Software in 2001 . The design philosophy behind Empire Earth is simple; to increase the dynamics of strategy and add flavor to each individual Era.

Currently in Alpha, Will update this when Version 1 is complete.

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Hydromancerx · Oct 9, 2013

The Lichen Gatherer, Branding Hut and Excrement Holes look fine as buildings. I approve of them. Could you please add them to the SVN?

Note I was actually wanting to have a line of buildings for human waste. Like Latrine and Public Restrooms. Excrement Holes would fit nicely.

Sparth · Oct 9, 2013

Some ideas to add flavour to Transhuman and Galactic era
1. New Culutures (and philosophical movements)
- Transhumanism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
- Edenism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edenism
- Radical Ecology Movement
- Superhuman Ideology
- Outer Space Exploration movements

2. New Religions and reformed old ones
- Neo Christianity
- Church of the Earth (Ecological religion)
- Zensunni http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Zensunni
- AI Worshipers

And one more idea about units. In modern era we have tons and tons on civ specific units. Many russian, american, asian and european specific units (for example in tanks we have russian T62, T72 and T95 tank) and when transhuman era start we have only one single unit type for all civilizations on globe. I think in future every empire still works on they own type of units and construct them.

PS. Sorry for my english

Faustmouse · Oct 9, 2013

Sparth said:
2. New Religions and reformed old ones
- Neo Christianity
- Church of the Earth (Ecological religion)
- Zensunni http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Zensunni
- AI Worshipers

DH is working on the excact same thing for normal C2C, it may just take some time.

Sparth said:
And one more idea about units. In modern era we have tons and tons on civ specific units. Many russian, american, asian and european specific units (for example in tanks we have russian T62, T72 and T95 tank) and when transhuman era start we have only one single unit type for all civilizations on globe. I think in future every empire still works on they own type of units and construct them.

This has been changed in C2C, now in the modern era you also have medium Tank, Heavy Tank etc instead ot T62, T72 etc.

It COULD be a good idea though if we had a guy for making and designing units and if the different models had different abilities (for example german tanks are faster, american fighers have better radar etc).

Cool idea Mr Azure! :goodjob:

I like the Alt. Timeline as NW most :lol:

Sparth · Oct 9, 2013

Faustmouse said:
It COULD be a good idea though if we had a guy for making and designing units and if the different models had different abilities (for example german tanks are faster, american fighers have better radar etc).

For modern era (mostly WWII) there is plenty of models and skins in CivFanatics download area but for future eras there is only few models. I can start working on new different skins for existing models but i dont know if this what we want in C2C (just skins no models and animations).

Faustmouse · Oct 9, 2013

Sparth said:
For modern era (mostly WWII) there is plenty of models and skins in CivFanatics download area but for future eras there is only few models. I can start working on new different skins for existing models but i dont know if this what we want in C2C (just skins no models and animations).

You should PM HydromancerX about that.

Azurian · Oct 9, 2013

Sparth said:
Some ideas to add flavour to Transhuman and Galactic era
1. New Culutures (and philosophical movements)
- Transhumanism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
- Edenism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edenism
- Radical Ecology Movement
- Superhuman Ideology
- Outer Space Exploration movements

2. New Religions and reformed old ones
- Neo Christianity
- Church of the Earth (Ecological religion)
- Zensunni http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Zensunni
- AI Worshipers

PS. Sorry for my english

Well New Religions I will introduced:
Latin Catholism (industrial)
Rafastarian (industrial)
Santeria (industrial)

What I have below is some I will add but the "lore" will probably be modified. A futuristic religion/belief system needs to have a back story.

Class Aphrodisiaca

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Sparth · Oct 9, 2013

Quite interesting work. Unusual but that should be religion of the future. Dont forgot about old religion which reform and change in new eras. Maybe some will join forces and create entire new religion movement to fight with new powerful heresies.

Azurian · Oct 9, 2013

Sparth said:
For modern era (mostly WWII) there is plenty of models and skins in CivFanatics download area but for future eras there is only few models. I can start working on new different skins for existing models but i dont know if this what we want in C2C (just skins no models and animations).

Quite interesting work. Unusual but that should be religion of the future. Dont forgot about old religion which reform and change in new eras. Maybe some will join forces and create entire new religion movement to fight with new powerful heresies.

Check with Dancing Hoskuld first, I would love this.
Well the thing about future Regilions/ Beliefs is that it will take max creatvity. That list, I made it up about a year ago, BUT its not set in stone, the lore will probably be modified.

There are other Belief systems I want to add. The main element of Transhuman Beliefs is to anger those who have older religions. Major Classes are the Aphordisiatic, Digital, Biological, Space, and Android . Aphorodisiatic religious leaders are indeed heroines who are worshiped by a cult of aprodisiac induced men. Also I may point out, while we have Television, there will be a "smellovision" gadget that acurrately represents smells. We can accurately represent sight (movies), hearing (headphones), smell and touch are next.

We could add Atheism as a Transhuman Belief , I have no problem with that.

@Hydromancer
I'll add them to SVN.

Planning
I am away from my computer so I will edit this with correct stats when I get home.

Bonemarrow Butcher
Technology: Chopping
+ 1 :health:

Requires Bonecarvers Hut (spelling)
Requires: Firepit And [Cooking Buiding]
Required For That [That Prehistoric Butcher Buiding]
Obsolete: [Medicine Tech]

If you’re truly interested in consuming the original Primal brain food, look no further than bone marrow: perhaps the first reliable source of large, fatty animal products our scrappy ancestors were able to procure. Yes, before we became spear-using cunning tacticians surrounding, stalking, and out-maneuvering large prehistoric ungulates, we feasted on the bones of fallen prey. Or, more accurately, we feasted on what lurked inside the bones (and the skulls, for that matter). Animal fat and protein improved the quality of our diet by making digestion less energy intensive. Bone marrow, especially, was highly caloric and nutrient dense, allowing early human ancestors to divert metabolic resources away from the costly digestion of roughage and toward bigger, costlier brains. This spurred the increase in hominid brain size that we still enjoy today.

Bloodhuntress Hut
Technology: Piercing
+ 1 :health:

+ 1

+ 2 disease

+1 :disease: with Cannibalism
+1 :food:

with Cannibalism

Requires: Alpha Female
Requires: Fire Pit
Requires: Tattoo Hut
Required For: Piercing Hut
Required: [ Hunting Building]
Obsolete [Medicine Tech]

Reasoning: While drinking blood can increase health, there is a small chance that even boiled blood can still have bacteria. Bloodhuntress Hut is a building where you can increase health and culture but it costs disease. Bloodhuntress Hut is for females what the Branding Hut/Tattoo Hut is for males. Extra Food for Canabilism because drinking blood can be addicting (aka Bloodlust), which causes the person to have an increased desire to hunt humans for blood and the " literal lust or desire, for either the sight or drinking of blood, such as blood fetish associated with sexual activity".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlust

Many cultures consume blood as food, often in combination with meat. The blood may be in the form of blood sausage, as a thickener for sauces, a cured salted form for times of food scarcity, or in a blood soup.[1] This is a product from domesticated animals, obtained at a place and time where the blood can run into a container and be swiftly consumed or processed. The Maasai of Tanzania consume the blood of cattle, which is let directly from the neck of the live animal and the wound allowed to heal—mixed with milk. In many cultures the animal is slaughtered. In some cultures, blood is a taboo food.

Humans can drink blood but only in very small amounts. Any amount other than that will cause problems because blood is toxic when drank in considerable amounts. Blood is rich in iron and drinking it will cause iron overdose. This can lead to liver damage, dehydration and several other health problems.

Mammalian Hut [Breastmilk or Animal Udders]

Technology: Piercing (Animal Udders)
+ 1 :health:

+1

-3 :disease:

Requires: Alpha Female
Requires: Fire Pit
Requires: Baskets
requires: [Cooking building???]
requires: communialism

Reasoning: Simliar to how Harems are in a "stable" for sexual purposes, there is a "stable" of woman who were once pregnant but because of breast espression, will lactacte for a couple of years as long as their mammalia glands are stimulated. Remember that the human lifespan in Prehistoric was much shorter, so the majority of females died before 30 years old. They would store their breastmilk in tightly woven baskets heated by the fire (near not direct) and feed to the returning Hunters. Also Hunters would pierce Animal Udders and heat the milk inside. The Alpha Female decided which females were required to produce breastmilk.

Breast milk is the milk produced by the breasts (or mammary glands) of a human female for her infant offspring. Milk is the primary source of nutrition for newborns before they are able to eat and digest other foods; older infants and toddlers may continue to be breastfed, either exclusively or in combination with other foods. A woman can produce breast milk for twenty, thirty or more years, as long as there is a constant need for it. In today's society, there are Milk Banks, just like Blood Banks. Excess milk from lactating mothers is often donated to the bank. It is available to infants in need, and may either be free or offered at a minimal charge.

Masculine Hut
Technology: Piercing
+ 1 :culture:

-2 :disease
+ 2 :culture:

with Cannabilism

Requires: Alpha Male
Requires [Hunting Building]
requires Fire Pit
Requires: Baskets

Reasoning: Cutting the testicles of a large animal was considered the honorary role of the Alpha Male, and combined with Bloodlust addiction with Cannibalism, eating masculine organs of their prey was seen as a proud honor. The Masculine Hut also serves the role of teaching boys how to be men, (The Childcare Hut does this for the girls).

The testicles of calves, lambs, roosters, and other animals are eaten in many parts of the world, under a wide variety of euphemistic culinary names. Testicles are a by-product of the castration of young male animals raised for meat, so they were probably a late-spring seasonal specialty, though nowadays they are generally frozen and available year-round. Testicles are cooked in a variety of ways: sautéed and sauced, fricasséed, deep-fried with breading or batter, in pies, poached, roasted, and so on. Before the technology of cooking, they are generally scalded, skinned, and soaked in cold water.

Kumalau Club [Wooden club]
Technology : Chopping
-2 Crime
Requires: [Woodcarvers Cut??]

Having a wooden club handy is good to stay alive and protect yourself from deviants. The militarized version of this has spikes.

Prehistoric Barber
Fashionista Mod
Technology: Personal Adornment
+1 :culture:

-2 Disease

Requires Stone Tool Worker

Requires Baskets (the talent of weaving translate to hair)
Requires Bones or Pelts or Vines or Rope

Cutting of head hair regularly reduces the chance of parasitical disease. Bones, Leaves, Animalskin Headbands were tied into the hair for more refined look, and it established a pecking order among the woman; those with Leaves in their hair were lowest rank, while those with Animalskin Headbands at the highest .

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Hydromancerx · Oct 10, 2013

@Hydromancer
I'll add them to SVN.

The Bonemarrow Butcher through Prehistoric Barber I think I will pass on. Some I think are a little too weird, specific or redundant. So please not add those. Lichen Gatherer, Branding Hut and Excrement Holes are still fine though.

Azurian · Oct 10, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
The Bonemarrow Butcher through Prehistoric Barber I think I will pass on. Some I think are a little too weird, specific or redundant. So please not add those. Lichen Gatherer, Branding Hut and Excrement Holes are still fine though.

LOL of course you do, according to the scientific journals I read on JSTOR they were critical for our survival before Agriculture.

Without eating Bonemarrow, Breastmilk, Testicles, Blood we wouldn't have survived long because of mineral and vitamins deficiency . Some African tribes still do these things lol.

You can't be politically correct about critical historical facts or not include them because they are weird or taboo .

I'm taking a break to add properties.

Yudishtira · Oct 10, 2013

MrAzure said:
LOL of course you do, according to the scientific journals I read on JSTOR they were critical for our survival before Agriculture.

Without eating Bonemarrow, Breastmilk, Testicles, Blood we wouldn't have survived long because of mineral and vitamins deficiency . Some African tribes still do these things lol.

You can't be politically correct about critical historical facts or not include them because they are weird or taboo .

I'm taking a break to add properties.

Are you seriously suggesting they had specialist Butchers in the prehistoric for different body parts? As long as there is one Butcher, that is plenty to butcher all parts of all animals including man.

Branding Hut for healing purposes can be assumed under the Healer's Hut and the Healer. For other bizarre purposes, I suggest it should be like a Worldview, or enabled by certain cultures. Same goes (even moreso) for adults drinking human milk. Some cultures do do/eat strange things that other cultures would never in a million ~~years~~eras...

You can't make those things standard practice and penalize those that don't do them. As for it being the latest science, the latest science is often reversed in the journal's next issue! :lol:

Azurian · Oct 10, 2013

Yudishtira said:
Are you seriously suggesting they had specialist Butchers in the prehistoric for different body parts? As long as there is one Butcher, that is plenty to butcher all parts of all animals including man.

Branding Hut for healing purposes can be assumed under the Healer's Hut and the Healer. For other bizarre purposes, I suggest it should be like a Worldview, or enabled by certain cultures. Same goes (even moreso) for adults drinking human milk. Some cultures do do/eat strange things that other cultures would never in a million ~~years~~eras... You can't make those things standard practice and penalize those that don't do them. As for it being the latest science, the latest science is often reversed in the journal's next issue!

Lol you know how their are blood banks where you donate blood? Well there are Milk Banks where woman donate Breastmilk that you can buy.

I'm not suggesting their where specialty butlers, but I am suggesting that Bonemarrow from scattered bones was very important source of calories before meat butchery was truly conceptualized. Bonemarrow has high number of calories.

Bloodlust and Branding were way more about ceremonial markings than health. I can remove the Health.

Well they will all have Anarchism Civic.

If we can have 200 crops, we should be able to have 5 different ceremonial markings (tattoo, branding, piercing, blood, and hair (Barber ).

I was going to ask Dancing Hoskuld what his thoughts were about adding Gastric Bombs (against neanderthal ), Bloodlust Stone (+1strength for 10 turns after kill) Excrement Bombs (disease on plot) To his equipment mod.

Now these are things I am not going to add because they are quite taboo for majority and are very minor and have little reason to be in anyways. :

Genital Mutilation (mainstream in Africa)
Abortion
Racism
Segregation
Incest
Assisted Suicide
Pornography
Beastiality and Necrophilia
Andromorph (no gender roles)
Nazi Stuff
Infanticide
Devil Worship Cults
Polygamy
Hate Groups
Severe Cruelty
Beauty Pageants
Feminism and Maschismo
Eugenics
American Slave Trade

Undecided :
Child Labor
Skull Masks
Gansta Culture (Rappers)
Illuminati /Free Masons

Azurian · Nov 1, 2013

Currently in alpha, I started modding again yesterday, but wanted to give a quick preview.

I am going to change the +1 from Charcoal to +1 from Hearth or make them +1 Health from Cooking.

I am going to move several Cooking Buildings a bit further down the Tech Tree like like Slaughterhouse to Butchery to Chopping Skinning.
This are not final stats, they will be updated once I add newer buildings that have to do with small scale Gardening .

Next priority is to add some Gardening buildings to scraping like Basket Flowers and Seasonal Garden that require Peat to Scraping.

Sewing will get a Quiltmaker that requires Seamstress Hut and Furrier that will increase :health:

I am also going to add the following World Wonders to either Soft Hammer Percussion, Chopping, Piercing, or Fine Tools Unless Sargon wants to add them to C2C. :

Blackwater Draw
Bluefish Caves
Cactus Hill
Charlie Lake Cave
Kilgii Gwaay
McCallum
Meadowcroft Rockshelter
Monte Verde
Pedra Furada
Richardson Island

You can read more about them here:
http://www.sfu.museum/journey/an-en/secondaire1er-middle/richardson

For Tech Games I might add :
Hot Potato (requires Heat Treatment) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_potato_(game)
Jump Rope (requires Rope or Vines)
Skull Trow (requires Counting)
Hopscotch (requires Petrographs)
Peekaboo (requires Ritualism) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peekaboo
Capture the flag (requires Hunting) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_the_flag

If I move Butchery, Dining Hall, to Earth Oven, Binding will get Skeleton Grill and Chopping will get Slaughterhouse.

Scraping will get Dirt Art that upgrades to Rock Art. Controlled Fire will get Charcoal Art. Barkworking will get Tree Carvings .

I have in mind to add a Chieftress Hut that lowers disease similar to how the Chiefs Hut lowers crime. I am pondering if to add a Tech call Hygiene that will include Chieftress Hut, Neolithic Barbershop, Hygienist Crafter (toothpicks, combs, flint shavers), and Stone Washboards (laundry).

I will probably add Skeleton Wall to Chopping and it will upgrade to the other Walls.

Composite Tools will get Bird Trapper, Neolithic Jail, Bone Cages (for birds), Tree Platforms (if we don't have them).

This list is not complete and is not final.

Thunderbrd · Nov 1, 2013

I'm sure we'd all love to have more Natural Wonders but the art is the trick, no?

I do also really like the games concept... interesting.

Azurian · Nov 1, 2013

Thunderbrd said:
I'm sure we'd all love to have more Natural Wonders but the art is the trick, no?

I do also really like the games concept... interesting.

True, I was going to make them World Wonders, but am probably going to look for specific prehistoric settlements.

One of the goals is to make every have a unique purpose. For example for Tech Tool Making, Lizard Catcher, Nest Thief, Earthworm Fetcher, Snail Collector are gonna cost higher than average production for their time because they are harder to find in the wild but you get an important resource. Don't want that? Then build a Termite mound or nut cracking stone that is cheaper.

Gardening is thought to be the world's oldest known form of agriculture. Good number of cultures planted small gardens for a season especially in Spring.

Quiltmaker
+ 1 :culture:

+ 1

Requires Seamtress Hut
+ 1 :gold:

with Barter
Requires Furs or Hides
Requires Tech Sewing.

Also there were different classes of cultures:
hunter-gatherers
nomadic pastoralists
simple farming societies
complex farming societies/chiefdoms
state societies

There is quite a bit of fun stuff to add to Paleolithic , Mesolithic, and Neolithic,(when we call Prehistoric Era), then it gets fun at Ancient.

Right now it may be hard to visulaize what I am talking about (why did mrAzure add Snail Collector??) but its going to make sense once I get the whole Era finished.

SargontheGreat2 · Nov 1, 2013

I'll take the wonders

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