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C2C- Futuristic Religions and Culture

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Caveman 2 Cosmos' started by Azurian, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Azurian

    Azurian The Azurian

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    This thread is to discuss the religions of the Digital, Cyber, Nano, Solar, Interstellar, Galactic, and Dimension Eras.

    With new technology comes new religious beliefs, philosophies, cultural identities, and ideologies, as Homo Sapiens and other species discover who they are and their place in the universe.
     
  2. Azurian

    Azurian The Azurian

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  3. Xoatl_169

    Xoatl_169 Warlord

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    Im at the cusp of the modern era in my current game and I've played to around medieval era a few times before i got into the groove of things. I'd like to see current cultures be more fleshed out, especially the alternate history ones like dieselpunk, which has nothing. But the thought of fake cultures being incorporated is pretty cool however outside of the basic "-punk" cultures its hard to think of any outlandish cultures that are unique enough to worth mentioning. A sort of "cyborg" or "android" culture can probably be covered under the umbrella of cyberpunk. A "homo superior" culture can probably be covered under the umbrella of biopunk.

    Theres also the idea of location/resource dependent cultures which constitute everything outside of the "-punk" ones. Perhaps, different cultures can be "constructed" but as national wonders as different civs manage to place their first city on Mars or the Moon, opening up the ability of constructing Martian and Lunar cultures on those cities. Can give powerful spaceship UUs.

    Outside of those possibilities you can start getting into crazier ones such as a culture for a city that is built under water. The prerequisite might be the tile the city is built on is a coast/ocean tile if such a thing is possible. Can possibly give strong submarine UUs.

    Even crazier still there can be a culture of ascension, where one has to be in the dimension era. Can possibly give a UU spy or a hidden nationality/invisible rougelike unit, would probably have to offer some assortment of interesting features to make satisfying. The unit can appear to be ethereal to go with the whole inter-dimensional being theme.

    That's all i got for cultures. For religions I haven't thought about it much, sorry.
     
  4. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    Culture Wonder Costs
    Prehistoric = 50
    Ancient = 100
    Classical = 200
    Medieval = 400
    Renaissance = 800
    Industrial = 1600
    Modern = 3200
    Digital = 6400
    Cyber = 12800
    Nano = 25600
    Solar = 51200
    Interstellar = 102400
    Galactic = 204800
    Dimensional = 409600

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    Cetacea Sapien (Uplifted Dolphins)
    Req Resource: Whale
    Req Terrain: Coastal (Possibly underwater)
    Req Tech: Species Uplifting
    Unit: Dolphin Mech

    Canis Sapien (Uplifted Dogs)
    Req Resource: Deer (Or Maybe Bison)
    Req Terrain: ?
    Req Tech: Species Uplifting
    Unit: ?

    Pan Sapien (Uplifted Chimpanzees)
    Req Resource: Bananas
    Req Terrain: Jungle
    Req Tech: Species Uplifting
    Unit: ?

    Notes most of these are just rough ideas.
     
  5. Hankc

    Hankc Warlord

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    How about a religion that uses technologies like cloning and genetic engineering to create new life and spread them to lifless planets across the galaxy? An "It is our duty to bring life to the universe" sort of idea?
     
  6. Koshling

    Koshling Vorlon

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    Sort of a 'we are the Progenitors' ? If then the converse religion - we were created by a Progenitor race and it is our duty to seek them out would be good. These two could have negative faction to one another ;)
     
  7. Hankc

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    I imagine the traditional religions wouldn't be to happy about it either, "playing god" and all that.
     
  8. hotrodlincoln

    hotrodlincoln Upasaka

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    Here's an idea taken from the Planetfall mod, which is heavily based on Alpha Centauri.

    Religion: Homo Superior
    As technology rapidly began to advance, the line between human and computer began to blur more and more each day, as cybernetic implants had become common place. Until recently, this process had occurred solely for medical reasons. Now, however, men and women of all ages are implanting microchips within their brains to increase their learning capacity and memory. Cybernetic limbs are used to increase strength and endurance. This has been an altogether chaotic, directionless process, but under the right guidance, a new species of man could emerge, completing the next phase of our evolution. Enter Homo Superior Superior.

    "Breakthroughs in Biomachinery and Doctrine: Initiative paved the way for a new kind of organism that is equal parts biological and computer. The biological aspect thrives at physical manipulation and emotional experience, while the digital aspect excels at calculation and data processing. This Homo Superior integrates the best of biological and machine."

    "Those who join us need only give up only half of their humanity- the illogical, ill-tempered, and disordered half, commonly thought of as 'right-brain' functioning. In exchange, the 'left-brain' capacities are increased to undreamed potentials. The tendency of Biologicals to cling instead to their individual personalities can only be attributed to archaic evolutionary tendencies."
    Prime Function Aki Zeta-5 of the Cybernetic Conciousness, "Convergence"

    "I think, and my thoughts cross the barrier into the synapses of the machine - just as the good doctor intended. But what I cannot shake, and what hints at things to come, is that thoughts cross back. In my dreams the sensibility of the machine invades the periphery of my consciousness. Dark. Rigid. Cold. Alien. Evolution is at work here, but just what is evolving remains to be seen."
    Commissioner Pravin Lal, "Man and Machine"

    "The Warrior's bland acronym, MMI (Mind-Machine Interface), obscures the true horror of this monstrosity. Its inventors promise a new era of genius, but meanwhile unscrupulous power brokers use its forcible installation to violate the sanctity of unwilling human minds. They are creating their own private army of demons."
    Commissioner Pravin Lal, "Report on Human Rights"


    I see this as a religion which would grant significant bonuses to Health, Research, and Production, but would cause significant unhappiness and possibly even revolt instability. Much of society will simply not be comfortable with the idea of mankind turning into cyborgs en masse, viewing it as un-natural. The cyborgs themselves may even be discriminated against, both for perversions of nature and for the changes in personality that come from their cybernetic implants. Additionally, despite the production bonuses granted by the buildings themselves, the buildings and all units associated with the religion would take a considerable amount of time, since they are far more complicated than simple churches made of brick and stone.
     
  9. hotrodlincoln

    hotrodlincoln Upasaka

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    Another religion which featured in the Planetfall mod was known as 'The Ascetic Virtues'. This religion was a representation of the philosophy of Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang of the Human Hive. This is a religion which essentially adapts Buddhist and Collectivist principles into a single whole, using it to forge a society where the people's individuality is eroded in favor of the welfare of the group. Personally, I think the name could be changed to something more descriptive, but I am uncertain what would be best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

    "Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment."
    Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter"

    "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people."
    Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Ethics for Tomorrow" (Soylent Green is people!)

    "My gift to industry is the genetically engineered worker, or Genejack. Specially designed for labor, the Genejack's muscles and nerves are ideal for his task, and the cerebral cortex has been atrophied so that he can desire nothing except to perform his duties. Tyranny, you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain?"
    Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter"

    I would see this as a religion which would grant massive bonuses to production and health, while also allowing the maximum amount of food to be saved upon growth. A society guided by this religion is one in which the people's desires and wants are to serve only the greater group. None are wasted, for in death the people go into the tanks, and become one with the people.

    Consequently, this religion would grant massive penalties to great person production and culture, due to the lack of individuality. Democratic and Liberal civics would also grant significant unhappiness if the Ascetic Virtues buildings exist in a given city.
     
  10. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    @hotrodlincoln

    The Homo Superior Religion sounds a bit like the Star Trek Borg.
     
  11. Azurian

    Azurian The Azurian

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    Aphrodisiaca
    Era: Late Cyber
    Main Religions:

    Siren Stradivarius (Italy) Maestra Diamond (grandaughter of Vanessa Mae) 412 million
    Valentine (USA) Selena Gomez Prima (Grandaughter of Selena Gomez) 192 million
    Rosa Romantica (Latin) Esmeraldo Antiquion 179 million
    Forever Venus (Russia) Adrik Ivanov 358 milllion
    Serenade of Serena (Lunar Colony Alpha
    ) Bei Ai 2.2 million


    SubReligions
    Passion Agostino [Passion of Agnostino] (Italy)
    Bellanova Catholicism [Beautiful Star Catholicism] (Mexico and Latin America)
    Ἀφροδίτη [Aphrodite] (Mediterranean]
    Bird of Soulmates (North Africa -Egypt)
    Queen of Hearts (Australia)
    Sakura Song [Sakura Tree Song] (Japan)
    Beauty of the Butterfly (South Africa-Madagascar)
    Kawaii Stars [Too Cute Stars] (Japan)
    Flower of Our True Love(China)
    Incendie Coeurs [Hearts on fire] (France)
    Victorian Valentine (UK, Australia, East USA)
    Medina Astrology (Saudi Arabia, Middle East)
    Melody of the Moon Goddess (China)
    Ballad of Lady Karma (India)
    Viva La Vida(spain and Latin America)
    Disneylandia(USA-West Coast)
    Pleasurecraft (Germany)
    Redlight Vixen(Netherlands-Amsterdam)
    Telsa Charisma (Britain)
    Americana Heart(USA-Central and South)
    Рождаемость сказка [Fertility Fairytale] (Russia)
    Maybelline(USA-New York)
    Maternal Earth (Oceania)
    Matriarch of Minerva(Lunar Colony Beta)
    Lunar Lullaby (Lunar Colony Gamma)
    Athena Affection (Lunar Colony Delta)


    History
     
  12. mr_knowie

    mr_knowie Chieftain

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    Shortly after encountering aliens, I expect a "Human Superiority" religion to spawn off of the more conservative branches of many modern religions ("if we were created in God's image, aliens must be an abomination"... or some such xenophobic rhetoric). If there's an alien invasion event, this religion could give a big bonus to unit production, with a few specialty anti-alien units, but remove any possibility of negotiation or peace with them, and significant scientific penalty if it's the official state religion. Passively, the religion's presence would cause unhappiness with each alien victory or increase in minority presence, and the buildings would amplify the effect.

    The ying to that yang, a religion that would accept the aliens, upping the odds of making peace with them (assuming the aliens are initially hostile) and boosts research at the cost of turning over a few cities to the aliens, or maybe introducing a significant alien minority into your cities, thus making them more likely to revolt. Eventually, alien immigrants could be a randomly spawned resource (spawn rate dependent on the minority rate within a city), with accompanying cultures. Having this as the official state religion would up the odds of this resource appearing. Further, this religion should allow construction of alien dwellings, which would increase alien immigration rates, but incur huge maintenance (basically, it's creating a comfortable environment for aliens). Alien cultures could give military units, or units that become free specialists. Passively, the religion and associated buildings would increase alien immigration slightly.

    Other than that, I suggest we all worship coffee as our savior, but that's just me.
     
  13. Sarah Starlight

    Sarah Starlight Chieftain

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    This is what Azure told me to add for the Digital Era.

     
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    What? How could you leave cats out!
     
  15. JosEPh_II

    JosEPh_II TBS WarLord

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    Needing a Mrrshann fix Mr SargontheGreat2!? :lol:

    JosEPh ;)
     
  16. Hydromancerx

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    Cats are the food of Canis Sapien. ;) They are too finicky to become uplifted. :p


    Link to video.
     
  17. SargontheGreat2

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    Yep, and only thing they would do is waste our presious food supplies.

    I like lazy animals and cats are the laziest.
     
  18. Sarah Starlight

    Sarah Starlight Chieftain

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    I think these cultures should be added from these Turned-based 4x space games.

    All the cultures From:
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    -alpha Centauri and alien crossfire
    -galactic civilization II
    -master of orion 2
    -armada 2526
    -sword of the stars
    -sins of a solar empire (use their avatars)

    They are the most familiar to most people, and after them we can add cultures from other games., my 2 cents.
     
  19. Hydromancerx

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    MOO2 is a little harder to do since they are aliens and not Humans (except for the humans). SMAC seems the most useful since it involves mostly humans and is a Sid Meier game.
     
  20. thecougarbear

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    What about some sort of technocult? A society that is "agnostic" or "atheist," but treats technology itself as some sort of god (though they would never phrase it that way).

    Something like "digital theism" doesn't sound all that out there. Would fit nicely into the beginning of the transhuman era.
     

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