can not create Sushi CO
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welldressedgent
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I bet you haven't researched medicine yet. Or else somebody beat you to it.
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I have researched medicine, not sure if I were the first though. Does that matter? I know the Corp has not been founded yet.
It is my civic... I have State property... Corporations have no effect... i switch to free market and I can make a corp... but my cash flow drops because I have tons of cities over seas and now I have to pay their maintenance cost... ouch... I think it is better off without corp...
If you have sufficient resources, and place the HQ in a city with good +Weath modifiers (Wall Street city preferably) the benefits can outweigh what you get from SP once you spread the Corp around. Even more so if you grab a 2nd corp.
Of course, you have to invest quite a few hammers to spread it around.
Of course, you have to invest quite a few hammers to spread it around.
Refar
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Only if SP was not worth it in the first place (empire too small)
Joshua368
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Corporations are better the bigger your empire gets. With a small compact empire they aren't so great so might as well go with State Property.
The only thing you really have to worry about are insanely high colonial costs... but even those can be kept in check in FM with intelligent Forbidden Palace/Versailles placement.
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Why would one go SP with a smallish empire 
If you dont need SP for maintenance, then Corporations (and other economic Civics) outweight the 10% hammers from SP.
And while Corporations do indeed get better with access to more ressources and with more cities to benefit from them. But they can not offset the massive distance (or possible even colonial) maintenance of a big empire.
If you dont need SP for maintenance, then Corporations (and other economic Civics) outweight the 10% hammers from SP.
And while Corporations do indeed get better with access to more ressources and with more cities to benefit from them. But they can not offset the massive distance (or possible even colonial) maintenance of a big empire.
Joshua368
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Why would one go SP with a smallish empire
If you dont need SP for maintenance, then Corporations (and other economic Civics) outweight the 10% hammers from SP.
And while Corporations do indeed get better with access to more ressources and with more cities to benefit from them. But they can not offset the massive distance (or possible even colonial) maintenance of a big empire.
While its true that they are technically stronger than State Property's 10% boost, they still have a signifigant cost: A great person to found the corp, large ammount of hammers on executives, and gold to spread. If the returns aren't high, they aren't really worth the trouble.
And good supercharged global corps easily offset and then supercede the costs of a massive global empire, as long as one of them is Sid's Sushi or Cereal Mills. Yes there is a minor slump at first, but if you're getting 12+ food from sid and those cities grow all those new specialists (especially with representation) will easily rocket your science rate up even if the slider dips below 50 or 60%. Kind of a short term loss for long term gain, like founding new cities early on.
I mean, yes, corps can help in more compact empires (if you can trade for enough resources overseas) but you haven't truly experienced them until you use them for a domination game, expecially on a map like Big & Small with dozens of seafood.
1malt
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I had the same problem but then realized my Economy was set to Mercantilism in which corporations have no effect.
Mercantilism only blocks other players corps (kinda like theocracy is for religion) unless you are playing a bugged vertion that treats Mercantilism similarly to State Property.
I tend to prefere Mercantilism myself, with the right handling it can be used to rake in horeds of money with only minimal micromanagement, while useing the old ICS model.
I tend to prefere Mercantilism myself, with the right handling it can be used to rake in horeds of money with only minimal micromanagement, while useing the old ICS model.
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Best way to start with Sushi Corp is to put the HQ in your best commerce / financial city, then start spamming executives to *other* civ's cities. Make them pay for the maintenance, eh? You get the profits.
I typically only spread Sid's Sushi to a handful of cities in my empires, mostly cities that need extra food.
I typically only spread Sid's Sushi to a handful of cities in my empires, mostly cities that need extra food.
I couldn't disagree more. Unless you're on a map with no seafood, the extra food from Sid's Sushi is such a nice advantage that you really should keep it to yourself. Yes you'll pay more maintenance costs, but even just 6 extra food is like 3 free specialists, and that more than offsets the extra cost in my opinion. I really don't want the AI civs to have it because I don't think the extra gold per turn is worth letting my rivals have bigger cities and more specialists. It's better to get a more useless corporation for foreign spread, like Civilized Jewelers or Aluminum, Inc. to a civ that already has aluminum.
