I can stop doing elimination games from one moment to the next,
when the others finally stop voting for Australia and
acknowledge that Carthage is the best CS
But the only reason I have seen you down vote Aus is because you are up set they are in the game before other Civs. Which is fair enough. How-ever when the vote is based on how good a Civ abilities are, down voting them because of principle is not what the thread is for. You can down Vote for any reason you want but most people do realize that you are being selfish and immature. If your going to play the game, why not play it for fun and not because you have a grudge.
Australia has some of the most powerful and best Civ abilities. But you down voted them.
They don't have anyway near the best music theme, which is why I down voted them on that thread.
When you start voting for the reasons that have nothing to do with the reason the thread exists. What's the point?
AND why do you down vote them? because your are mad that the Mongol's or some other Civ aren't in the game yet, and Australia is!
I like Carthage as a CS. and they are one of the best. But best by far? Well, it is a matter of personal choice. Some people like Production CS or Gold CS.
I would put Carthage in the top 5 easily maybe even top 3 but I tend to go for Production CS first, because they are more useful to me. That being said If I start next to Carthage and can put envoy's into them from the start I will try to keep them on my side. But if I meet them mid game or late game I will not bother.
In the end it doesn't really matter, it's not like the result of the little games are going to make the Civ Devs change anything.
If you are having FUN down voting Australia because of "Principle" then ago ahead.
I find it funny the time I down voted Carthage because I don't place a lot value on 100's of trade routes, People got mad.
I also noticed them down voting the CS that I up voted for each and every time. Which is why I "haven't" voted for the Actual CS I want to win.