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Canadian Tories: No pleas for clemency for death penalty inmates in democracies

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CTV.ca News Staff said:
Grits blast Tory reversal on death-penalty policy

Updated: Thu. Nov. 1 2007 6:34 PM ET

The Conservative government said it will no longer appeal on behalf of Canadians facing death sentences in other democratic countries. But the opposition says this is a return to the party's far-right agenda.

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day announced in the House of Commons Thursday that he will not plead for clemency for Albertan Ronald Allen Smith, who faces lethal injection for the 1982 murders of two men in Montana.

"We will not actively pursue bringing back to Canada murderers who have been tried in a democratic country that supports the rule of law," Day said. "It would send a wrong message. We want to preserve public safety here in Canada."

A spokesperson for Day said he would not be commenting further on the announcement.

"The answer is clear, no matter if you agree or not, but his answer in the House today answers all the questions," the public safety minister's spokesperson Melissa Leclerc told CTV.ca Thursday.

But the opposition is accusing Day of reversing the policy without a discussion in Parliament.

"You have to recognize that the roots and beginnings of the current Conservative crop that's in cabinet essentially are the Reform Alliance Party," Liberal public safety critic Ujjal Dosanjh told CTV.ca Thursday.

He added that many of those people "supported the death penalty in their philosophical meanderings."

There has not been a state-sanctioned execution in Canada since 1962, and the nation has long-held a position against the death penalty, Dosanjh said.

"This government, by stealth, is changing that long-standing policy to Canada to protect Canadians against the death-penalty abroad," Dosanjh said.

He added that Canada's policy not to extradite people to countries where they may face capital punishment without guarantees they would not be executed could be the next domestic law to be reversed.

"You have a wholesale change of law to capital punishment without any debate whatsoever in Parliament."

Liberal MP Dan McTeague charged that the foreign policy shift was undemocratic.

"Canada is a democratic nation, and it has expressed itself democratically many times on the issue. Mr. Harper does not have the authority to proceed on this," McTeague told CTV.ca Thursday.

"This is amateur night in the Conservative party in terms of foreign policy, he said. "I would have expected that in Mr. Harper's attempt to try to be moderate on issues, he's obviously tipped his hand here and showed that he's back to the old Reform messages."

Canada has a history in the United Nations of championing the cause of abolishing capital punishment, McTeague said.

"This is about changing foreign policy to a position that does not reflect the Canadian stance on capital punishment in any shape, way or form," McTeague said.

Smith was convicted for killing two Aboriginal men while hitchhiking through Montana in 1982. He is the only Canadian currently on death row in the U.S.

Relatives of the two men, Harvey Mad Man, 23' and Thomas Running Rabbit, 20, have pleaded with Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer not to commute Smith's sentence.

Smith personally requested the death penalty, before later appealing the decision, asking for a life sentence.

Schweitzer said he is undecided about whether to commute his sentence.

"Because of Day's sudden change of heart, or because of the change in strategy, it may very well have sealed Mr. Smith's fate," McTeague said.

McTeague said the Conservatives have not brought the policy change to parliament, nor moved a motion to abandon the country's stance discouraging Capital punishment.

"Mr. Harper and Mr. Day are trying to accomplish indirectly that which they have no authority to do directly," McTeague said.

With files from The Canadian Press

I doubt the CPC would reintroduce the death penalty for it wouldn't play well in Quebec or even Ontario, where majorities are made and broken). It does show how Harper, with the weaken opposition and the CPC rolling in dough, can go roughshod over Parliament and do as he pleases.

Oh, friendly dictatorship, how a miss thee...
 
Indeed. I miss emperor Jean I.
 
Um... eww.
 
This means the government will no longer pay legal fees and help Canadians, there being only one instance however, who face the death penalty in Democratic countries. But Canada will still not extradite criminals to other nations where they may face a death sentence.

This government continues to fail to represent the population and needs to, and will, fall on a confidence vote soon. It's apparently just a matter of time before the Liberals pick the issue with which they'll fight the campaign over.

None of this matters, were going back to the polls again Canada. Third times a charm.
 
Babbler said:
It does show how Harper, with the weaken opposition and the CPC rolling in dough, can go roughshod over Parliament and do as he pleases.
This is one of the many reasons I despise the Tories. I keep asking myself what will happen should they -God forbid- gain a majority?

Kanada Kanada Über Alles...

Mandeville said:
But Canada will still not extradite criminals to other nations where they may face a death sentence.
Give 'em time...
 
Erm, how many democracies still have the death penalty? We're talking like Japan, America and India. Where are the majority of these cases going to be?
 
America.
Which the Conservatives want to bootlick as much as possible.

Sell-outs.

Babbler - At least Jean I more or less reflected the ideals people *generally* associate with Canada.
 
Too easy to say.

If Canada's stance is against lethal punishment - and it should be - then it needs to back that stance with action, including assisting its citizens facing that penalty.
 
Sadly, it appears that the President Prime Minister and the Canadian public do not see eye-to-eye.
 
Too easy to say.

If Canada's stance is against global punishment - and it should be - then it needs to back that stance with action.

So a Canadian should get life because of his or her nationality where a native citizen of any country would receive death?
 
We can't protect everybody, so we have to start somewhere.

Starting with our own citizen make sense.

That said, if it was NOT an established policy, I wouldn't mind its absence. It's the *BACKING DOWN* I find aggravating - particularly since the party is known to have strong pro-death-sentence AND pro-American leanings.
 
We can't protect everybody, so we have to start somewhere.

Starting with our own citizen make sense.

We already have -- our own territory.

That said, if it was NOT an established policy, I wouldn't mind its absence. It's the *BACKING DOWN* I find aggravating - particularly since the party is known to have strong pro-death-sentence AND pro-American leanings.

I whole-heartedly agree with you here!
 
Eherm, how many democracies still have the death penalty? We're talking like Japan, America and India. Where are the majority of these cases going to be?

Indonesia, Malaysia, South Korea. Thailand until the coup. Singapore, sort of, if you sort of squint and look at a funny angle. Botswana and a few other places in Africa where democracy coincides with retention of capital punishment. Possibly a couple of Latin American and Carribean island countries.
 
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