KevinTMC
Utopian
I've recently started playing Civ again, and have found that neither the latest patches nor moving to BTS is alleviating my old friend, the crash to desktop problem, which is quite rare in the BCs but gets more common as the game goes along, to the point where it can happen every three to seven turns by 2000 AD. (And that is on Normal size worlds.)
After having tried most every suggestion I've run across on this forum (mostly involving tinkering with the .ini file), and failing to eliminate the crashes, I'd pretty much resigned myself to living with it.
Except that the latest minor Gauntlet over at the HOF attracted me, and I started playing it. It is a Marathon level game, so it took hundreds of turns to even reach AD. I got as far as 210 AD before experiencing my first crash...and the HOF rules are strict, they only allow one crash in a game for it to be accepted. I continued playing, for hours more, sadly expecting to have an invalid submission for all my effort...the second crash took a while to come, but it happened at 1270 AD. Crashes at 1300 and 1305 soon followed...then it left me alone for almost a century, until it just crashed again at 1402.
The crashes almost always come when: a) a unit of mine is trying to move on the map, or b) the map view is trying to move so it can center on my next unit due to move. I get a few seconds' pause, during which the screen freezes but the music continues playing; and then the Windows XP "this application has had a problem and must close now" message. This latest game, it is happening in BTS...but the problem is to me indistinguishable from the CTDs I always experienced before in Vanilla, so I doubt it's anything specifically to do with the expansion.
Might anyone here be able to help me?
Here are a few basics. I have an eMachines T3256, which has an Athlon XP 3200+ processor (2.21 GHz), and is running Windows XP Home (SP3). The RAM has been upgraded to 1 GB, and the video card I have installed is an ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT (AGP 512 MB), using the Omega drivers (4.8.442). Civ 4 and BTS are both installed with the latest official patches. Lately I have been playing all my games (whether Vanilla or BTS) with the latest HOF mod installed, plus Blue Marble 3. I take some care in maintaining the system, running various utility and security programs, and looking for patches and updates, on a regular basis.
I've tried paring back active processes in the Task List before launching Civ; doesn't seem to make much difference. My main active security programs, Avast antivirus and Comodo firewall, remain while I play, and FreeRam XP Pro also stays on to manage and report on memory, but I do try to order other utilities (e.g. True Image, System Mechanic) to go away during sessions.
I have tried switching the game itself to Windowed mode (1200x900, on a 1280x1024 display), and turning off antialiasing. Neither of those changes eliminated the problem. On the left side of the Graphics tab, other options are set to High; on the right, the only boxes checked are "Show Health Bars", "Detailed City Info", "Globe View Buildings Disabled", and "Show City Radius".
I turned on all the logs I knew to look for the last time I edited the .ini, and I've made a copy of the Logs folder in the My Games\BTS directory as it was immediately following the last crash. I would thus be able to provide any log files from there, and of course will gladly come up with any other helpful information.
For those of you who have read this far, thank you so much for looking at my situation; and I hope someone has an idea that will help.
After having tried most every suggestion I've run across on this forum (mostly involving tinkering with the .ini file), and failing to eliminate the crashes, I'd pretty much resigned myself to living with it.
Except that the latest minor Gauntlet over at the HOF attracted me, and I started playing it. It is a Marathon level game, so it took hundreds of turns to even reach AD. I got as far as 210 AD before experiencing my first crash...and the HOF rules are strict, they only allow one crash in a game for it to be accepted. I continued playing, for hours more, sadly expecting to have an invalid submission for all my effort...the second crash took a while to come, but it happened at 1270 AD. Crashes at 1300 and 1305 soon followed...then it left me alone for almost a century, until it just crashed again at 1402.
The crashes almost always come when: a) a unit of mine is trying to move on the map, or b) the map view is trying to move so it can center on my next unit due to move. I get a few seconds' pause, during which the screen freezes but the music continues playing; and then the Windows XP "this application has had a problem and must close now" message. This latest game, it is happening in BTS...but the problem is to me indistinguishable from the CTDs I always experienced before in Vanilla, so I doubt it's anything specifically to do with the expansion.
Might anyone here be able to help me?
Here are a few basics. I have an eMachines T3256, which has an Athlon XP 3200+ processor (2.21 GHz), and is running Windows XP Home (SP3). The RAM has been upgraded to 1 GB, and the video card I have installed is an ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT (AGP 512 MB), using the Omega drivers (4.8.442). Civ 4 and BTS are both installed with the latest official patches. Lately I have been playing all my games (whether Vanilla or BTS) with the latest HOF mod installed, plus Blue Marble 3. I take some care in maintaining the system, running various utility and security programs, and looking for patches and updates, on a regular basis.
I've tried paring back active processes in the Task List before launching Civ; doesn't seem to make much difference. My main active security programs, Avast antivirus and Comodo firewall, remain while I play, and FreeRam XP Pro also stays on to manage and report on memory, but I do try to order other utilities (e.g. True Image, System Mechanic) to go away during sessions.
I have tried switching the game itself to Windowed mode (1200x900, on a 1280x1024 display), and turning off antialiasing. Neither of those changes eliminated the problem. On the left side of the Graphics tab, other options are set to High; on the right, the only boxes checked are "Show Health Bars", "Detailed City Info", "Globe View Buildings Disabled", and "Show City Radius".
I turned on all the logs I knew to look for the last time I edited the .ini, and I've made a copy of the Logs folder in the My Games\BTS directory as it was immediately following the last crash. I would thus be able to provide any log files from there, and of course will gladly come up with any other helpful information.
For those of you who have read this far, thank you so much for looking at my situation; and I hope someone has an idea that will help.