Carthage, the undefeatable civ

Remember adopting the honour policy warrior code I think it was called gives you a free great general.

If I remember right, the newest patch made it so you couldn't take policies without founding a city, so I think maybe they thought of this possibility.
 
If I remember right, the newest patch made it so you couldn't take policies without founding a city, so I think maybe they thought of this possibility.
well obivlivsly it doesn't take long before you get a couple policies and I always found my capital when i start. so need to worry about founding your capital. or if your refering to a second city you don't need to found a second city before or after the patch.
 
well obivlivsly it doesn't take long before you get a couple policies and I always found my capital when i start. so need to worry about founding your capital. or if your refering to a second city you don't need to found a second city before or after the patch.

Well yeah, but the topic of the thread is the undefeatable civilization, and for that to be the case the capital would have to be the city surrounded by mountains.
 
If you my prevouis posts you will see what I am talking about because they were also talking about how you need a great general to get over the mountains and I was suggesting the quickest way to do it.
 
I feel really stupid now... I didn't know you could wipe cities off the map with nukes in Civ 5. I have used them to take cities often and in multiplayer often. But never did I know if you dropped them 3 times at once the city would simply be razed. Wow... I feel really stupid right now. This adds a whole new level for strategy for me :(
 
I feel really stupid now... I didn't know you could wipe cities off the map with nukes in Civ 5. I have used them to take cities often and in multiplayer often. But never did I know if you dropped them 3 times at once the city would simply be razed. Wow... I feel really stupid right now. This adds a whole new level for strategy for me :(

Indeed, any city less than or at 4-pop can be wiped out completely with a single ICBM.

The rest takes 2, 3 or even 4. The best kind of city obliteration is when you catch 3 or 4 cities in the same ICBM blast radius and just nuke repeatedly there.

e: atomic bombs and nukes are far more important now to manage happiness issues in conquering spree.
 
Indeed, any city less than or at 4-pop can be wiped out completely with a single ICBM.

The rest takes 2, 3 or even 4. The best kind of city obliteration is when you catch 3 or 4 cities in the same ICBM blast radius and just nuke repeatedly there.

e: atomic bombs and nukes are far more important now to manage happiness issues in conquering spree.

Which is kind of odd. I'd imagine using a nuke should give a huge boost to negative happiness.
 
Indeed, any city less than or at 4-pop can be wiped out completely with a single ICBM.

The rest takes 2, 3 or even 4. The best kind of city obliteration is when you catch 3 or 4 cities in the same ICBM blast radius and just nuke repeatedly there.

e: atomic bombs and nukes are far more important now to manage happiness issues in conquering spree.

Bomb shelters are a new building in G&K, so it has to be seen if things work the way you think.
 
Which is kind of odd. I'd imagine using a nuke should give a huge boost to negative happiness.

why?

You are clearing out entire segments of potential rebels whenever you nuke a hostile city or five, making way for less resistance to your eventual takeover.
 
Bomb shelters are a new building in G&K, so it has to be seen if things work the way you think.

Then you just use more nukes. Not that hard, and I wonder if faith will allow me to purchase nuclear missiles...
 
Then you just use more nukes. Not that hard, and I wonder if faith will allow me to purchase nuclear missiles...

This just in: The Pope supports the use of Nuclear Weaponry!
 
Hmmm, I think we may have just stumbled onto the (in game) reason that Carthaginian units cannot cross mountains until after spawning a GG. I can only imagine the fan-rage that would occur when people realized that Carthage was unassailable. :crazyeye:
 
Okay, what are the odds of getting a map in which you have one hex surrounded by mountains?
 
You guys ever considered that civilian units (or just the settler as an exception) might NOT get this promotion?
Just as workers / settlers don't get the Medic promotion.
 
You guys ever considered that civilian units (or just the settler as an exception) might NOT get this promotion?
Just as workers / settlers don't get the Medic promotion.

Workers and Settlers get the Embarkation promotion though.
 
why?

You are clearing out entire segments of potential rebels whenever you nuke a hostile city or five, making way for less resistance to your eventual takeover.

Well, I'm sure that some in your own empire wouldn't be too happy that you killed millions of civilians, even if they are the enemy, and I don't think the city that got nuked would be very happy that you killed everyone's mother/father/aunt/uncle/sister/brother/ etc
 
Well, I'm sure that some in your own empire wouldn't be too happy that you killed millions of civilians, even if they are the enemy, and I don't think the city that got nuked would be very happy that you killed everyone's mother/father/aunt/uncle/sister/brother/ etc

Autocracy

e: you might have a case if this was Freedom

e2: they won't be too happy, but there's only so many of them, and people like to live
 
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