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Cavaleiros Embassy & Intelligence

Discussion in 'Team Kazakhstan' started by Provolution, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    I don't want to distract this discussion on our current talks with Team Cav - but we still need to come to some agreement on new language for the Team Cav treaty.

    I have some suggested questions in the Poll thread which I think will help focus the team's thinking on this issue. If people have any comments to make please do so.
     
  2. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    No they haven't, and I'm glad you asked this because it reminded me of another reason we should unilaterally offer Saturn a place at the alliance table.

    Since Cavalieros and MS have not offered military aid, and seem to want to stay out of the war, we NEED to try and drive a wedge between SANCTA and their only ally. This is vital to our war effort, especially since our allies are not helping us.

    Consider that Saturn's aid to SANCTA has already affected the war, by denying us Feudalism and delivering it to SANCTA instead. We need to break that partnership up before it damages us further.

    If our allies will not help us with units, they cannot simultaneously tie our hands by refusing to let us draw Saturn away from SANCTA.

    What do you think about this Smoke?
     
  3. Kaleb

    Kaleb Deity

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    I got this PM from King Morgan:

    oyzar is away in greece on hols and I know niklas had a deadline for some paper he had to write around about now. Renata has also dropped out of the team after some internal argument.
     
  4. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    It is good they are going for paper. How about this for a short reply:

    Hi Morgan,

    Thanks for your note. We are very happy that your team has decided to learn to make paper. We are trying to figure out how to make machines. Soone we'll be able to combine these two inventions and the TTA will profit handsomely. We have written to the Mas Scientists and asked them to learn feudalism though they may be inclined to found a religion of their own. We also brought up the possibility of borrowing their ivory once we have maps and cantrade resources. We hope you have no objections to this. We are struggling with our approach to Saturn. Part of us wants to woo them away from SANCTA by offering to have them join the TTA and part of us thinks S&S are already acting as one. We'd like to hear your team's thoughts on this issue.

    donsig of Kazakhstan

    Please discuss, edit, revise, etc. though we should get a short note back to them soon.
     
  5. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    looks good donsig
     
  6. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    I want to just repeat/ point out that we should NOT wait for Mad Scientists (or Cavalieros) to give us permission to invite Saturn to join the alliance.

    We will enter/see the Cavalieros border next turn BTW... (see attached screenshot)
     

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  7. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Note from Team Cav:
    Spoiler :
    Mad Kaz Friends,

    We salute you!

    ... Kazakstan's patience with the swindling enemy.

    ... Mad Scientists' resilience through troubled times.

    Team Cavaleiros wishes to research Paper, we would then suggest
    researching Engineering. We believe Engineering and Machinery should
    take precedence over Feudalism. Pikemen would make a great defense
    against any Horse-based attacking unit. Not to mention the many other
    benefits of this technology.

    It has be suggested that with Currency researched, Team MS could
    maximize gold and support the research activities of Kaz and Cav, who
    both have the benefit of academies for better gold-to-beaker
    conversion. We belive it could be the most efficient way to achieve
    our goals. However, Philosophy or Theology may be preferred.

    With regards to the suggestion of MS to trade CS to Saturn, Team
    Cavalieros cannot see any circumstances where we would sanction any
    trade with Saturn or SANCTA - let alone an important tech like CS.

    Team SANCTA have a worrying large manufacturing capability, the threat
    from the alliance of S&S is great and ever increasing - we urge our
    allies to be prepared and ready to face any cunning attack from the
    deceitful twosome.

    We stand ready to receive you response.

    KingMorgan dos Cavaleiros
     
  8. Indiansmoke

    Indiansmoke Deity

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    no mention regarding the request for military help :(
     
  9. Bolkonski

    Bolkonski Prince Bolkonsky

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    Their letter seems a reasonable assessment of the situation. We should probably ask again about military help. They should be expecting us to do that.
     
  10. damnrunner

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    MS giving gold for our reasearch would be great - it would also let the teams better specialize buildings. MS does markets Kaz+Cav do libraries. That will be a more efficient division of labor for the time being.

    Again we should ask about military help-and highlight the fact that once Sancta gets construction we will essentially be a tech parity - when it comes to warfare. And if we don't get help we will be very hard pressed to hold Sancta back.
     
  11. Kaleb

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    SANCTA's new coastal city is also a cause for concern as a base for a naval assault!!

    Team Cavaleiros means literally Team Cavaliers ie. Cavalry!! Now they have HBR here's their chance to live up to their name :)
     
  12. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    What was the \tech boosting event Team Cav got?
     
  13. Bolkonski

    Bolkonski Prince Bolkonsky

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    A patron of knowledge donated a cache of rare writings to the library in Cimeira.
     
  14. Bolkonski

    Bolkonski Prince Bolkonsky

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    Cav just sent some military help. They have a chariot with a Combat I and Shock promotions on the Copper Hill to the NW:

    Spoiler :
    Civ4ScreenShot0077.JPG
     
  15. Kaleb

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    Now that's handy! he's on a good spot, will be helpful to know what that Chariot can see... SANCTA aren't going to want to attack and bring Cav into the war
     
  16. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    And what does that mean?
     
  17. Bolkonski

    Bolkonski Prince Bolkonsky

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    Absolutely no idea! But you did ask and that's what the log says! Perhaps one of the others can enlighten us.
     
  18. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    from some webpage

    Spoiler :

    Option 1 - "Disperse the writing to our researchers so that we may obtain some
    immediate benefit."

    Cost : None
    Result : +10% to Current Research


    Option 2 - "Fund the expansion of the Library to include a new wing housing
    all of these precious writings."

    Cost : None
    Result : -10% to Current Research
    +1 Research to Library in City
     
  19. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    One scout chariot? Are they serious? To do what? Watch us get destroyed? Maybe they should gift us the chariot... At least that would be a little real help... Small but something.

    This new SANCTA naval city makes the old fish city idea seem like a coulda-shoulda-woulda... Maybe Provo was spying on SANCTA...:lol:

    Anyway. this makes it seem clear that Bolko is right. A naval attack is imminent.
     
  20. Bolkonski

    Bolkonski Prince Bolkonsky

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    I don't think a naval attack is imminent. What I said was:

    I am not at all sure that this is going to occur soon.
     

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