Caveman 2 Cosmos (ideas/discussions thread)
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Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Coast is preferable. By a lot. Specially if any water tiles will end up in the city radius. Prime city spots get first target treatment.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
This is also Very dependent upon the stage/how far the game is in it's progression. If you are just talking about Prehistoric Era actions then yes they will stick to coasts. It's not until Ancient era and beyond that metals become revealed. Then the AI will become more interested in inland city building.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Yup. Which is also probably very real world applicable. We can see from our webbed fingers and how our skin wrinkles when wet for a long time (to give us improved surface grip underwater) and a number of other things like how our systems seem to have an abnormal need for Omega fats (which is pretty much mostly found in seafood) that as a species we spent a lot of time evolving to a coastal lifestyle.
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All these handicap modifiers changes made Flexible Difficulty much more stealthy now.
That is you won't notice instantly, that handicap changed as production and research cost modifiers change for AI.
If you keep watching closely properties, then you may notice, that crime and education gets easier or harder to control depending on handicap change.
Also after watching scoreboard for some time you may notice, that AI suddenly accelerated or slowed down its expansion and advancement rate.
That is you won't notice instantly, that handicap changed as production and research cost modifiers change for AI.
If you keep watching closely properties, then you may notice, that crime and education gets easier or harder to control depending on handicap change.
Also after watching scoreboard for some time you may notice, that AI suddenly accelerated or slowed down its expansion and advancement rate.
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Dr. Elephant
Warlord
Hello everyone, normally I am more active in the Subdued Animals thread, but just an quick post to metion this new about human origin: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/06/morocco-early-human-fossils-anthropology-science/
That could technically, mean that this NPC could be added too: http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis , since it could have time to appear and spread.
Talking about NPC: I have found somes interesting papers (PDF), regarding Floriensis and Naledi, notably their body proportions. So, where I can post them for been useful for the mod?
That could technically, mean that this NPC could be added too: http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis , since it could have time to appear and spread.
Talking about NPC: I have found somes interesting papers (PDF), regarding Floriensis and Naledi, notably their body proportions. So, where I can post them for been useful for the mod?
Dr. Elephant
Warlord
Also,
I don't know if it was already planned (as it was an pretty new discovery), but recently I have found this possible ressource in an french scientific magazine, here the source for reference: https://www.science-et-vie.com/le-magazine/et-la-lumiere-devint-liquide-10162
and also, an english article talking about it: https://futurism.com/scientists-demonstrate-liquid-light-at-room-temperature-for-the-first-time/
I don't know if it was already planned (as it was an pretty new discovery), but recently I have found this possible ressource in an french scientific magazine, here the source for reference: https://www.science-et-vie.com/le-magazine/et-la-lumiere-devint-liquide-10162
and also, an english article talking about it: https://futurism.com/scientists-demonstrate-liquid-light-at-room-temperature-for-the-first-time/
Sometimes fairly large continent may get tribal villages but no player/AIs on it though.
What would be normal barbarians then?
Criminals, that were exiled and founded new city?
SteelSterling
Prince
Good idea. While "goody hut" is explanatory, it does take away from immersion. Maybe Homo Sapien Dwelling?
But humans are specifically reliant on abundant fresh water, shouldn't it's sources be preferred even more than sea for most of history? The game doesn't really have terrain to represent abundant smaller lakes which are a major one, though.
Fish can be found in both rivers and seas.
Wrinkling skin is useful for any wet environment.
I guess settling at coast with river or nearby lakes or very rainy weather should satisfy water needs for prehistoric people.
Also some plants and fruits have so much water content, that you could stay hydrated just by eating them.
You could also drink blood or milk from animals.
Eggs also are good source of hydration - 100g of eggs contains around 75% of water.
Rivers + coasts is best option, but in certain places you may survive without river.
Streams, lakes and rain aren't shown in game, but some terrains can be assumed to contain some fresh water.
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Well game places settlers close to coast at beginning of game.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
No but being willing to place a city just a step back from the coast is terrible strategy and without as strong a weight for coastal placement as we have, they'll gladly do this to maximize resource access, even if that access overlaps with other cities workable zones. They don't completely ignore inland spots.. they just need very compelling reasons to go there over a coastal one if a coastal one is available.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
That or split off families that grew into tribes that simply don't care to establish a government or the trappings of organized civilization.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
Not always and not if you are playing on a pangaea map.
Placing cities along the coast first and then moving inland later is my usual approach, unless there is a much needed resource inland that is eg stone. The first city on the coast increases the likelihood of you being the first to circumnavigate the globe
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Once we've sorted out art for all the neanderthall stuff, I'd be interested in next trying to add in the hobbits.
When I started World map script and Pangea, then all civs got placed near coast.
Maybe you meant Dryland?
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
I don't use the World map script. It does not adjust the plant and animal resources to match the spawn regions. Not that the others do it completely either.
