Ceasefire in Gaza.

brennan

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First this:

Israel has begun a unilateral ceasefire in Gaza, three weeks after launching a full-scale assault against Hamas. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel had achieved its goals and Hamas - which has been firing rockets at Israel - had been defeated.
Then this:

The Palestinian militant group Hamas has announced an immediate ceasefire with Israel in Gaza. A statement read by a Hamas spokesman said the group would hold fire for a week to give Israel time to withdraw its forces from the Gaza Strip.
HAMAS launched a number of rockets into Israel after Israel declared it's ceasefire - Israel responded with an air strike.

Hamas has also implied that the week long ceasefire would be extended if Israeli troops do withdraw and lift the blockade on Gaza - which has of course been their demand all along.

Good news, but will it last?
 
Good news, but will it last?

It might last days, weeks, months, even a couple of years if they're lucky, but eventually, the violence will start all over again.
 
Well, if the current crop of 13 year olds don't have their lives improved by the time they're 15, I don't think it will last.
 
^yes, my thoughts as well, i hope Israel will do something for the well being of Palestine. Hamas i bet will only regain power in a few years otherwise.
 
How... pointless.
 
How... pointless.
Nonono... Now both sides will do their damndest to argue why this conflict was so necessary and useful at this point, and how they both won it.
 
There is no connection between israeli activities and hamas attacking, therefore hamas will continue to attack. Not that it ever stopped.
 
I'd give this ceace fire about a week before Hamas act up again.
 
There is no connection between israeli activities and hamas attacking, therefore hamas will continue to attack. Not that it ever stopped.

If people in Israel and those who support her can't see the connection between the occupation of Palestinian territory and continued resistance to that occupation, then of course there will never be peace. Israel's actions in Gaza may well be a military victory, at least a temporary one, but it has achieved nothing in changing the political reality or the threat that reality poses to Israel in the future. I wish it were otherwise but it seems to me that Israel is no closer to a secure future than it was a month ago.:sad:
 
Considering every Palestinian voice I've heard interviewed the last weeks at least agree on one thing alone, that there is no talking to Israel after this, not even by the know moderates, it's probably further from its stated goal.
 
If people in Israel and those who support her can't see the connection between the occupation of Palestinian territory and continued resistance to that occupation, then of course there will never be peace.

Occupation of what. Israel left Gaza in 2005. Hamas is attacking because it keeps oil prises high and making Hamas' owners happy. If Israel ever comes close to achieving peace in the region, by any means, it will be stopped. Same reason Hamas will never stop attacking. War is very very profitable, see WWII. And there are many who profit from keeping this particular region explodable. That would be the Arab states and USA.
 
Should usually last about as long as Hamas starts firing rockets into Israel again. So about a couple of hours.
 
Occupation of what. Israel left Gaza in 2005. Hamas is attacking because it keeps oil prises high and making Hamas' owners happy. If Israel ever comes close to achieving peace in the region, by any means, it will be stopped. Same reason Hamas will never stop attacking. War is very very profitable, see WWII. And there are many who profit from keeping this particular region explodable. That would be the Arab states and USA.

I'm not referring to just Gaza. Israel should withdraw from all territories occupied in 1967, disband all settlements on the West Bank and repatriate all settlers to Israel proper. There would be no resistance as the Palestinians would have a state in their own homeland. In return you would peace and the recognition of Israel that you desire. Even Hamas is on record as agreeing to that, if Israel could just listen for a change.
 
i think the israeli and palestian leaders may just enjoy sustained conflict. great way to keep power.
 
I'm not referring to just Gaza. Israel should withdraw from all territories occupied in 1967, disband all settlements on the West Bank and repatriate all settlers to Israel proper. There would be no resistance as the Palestinians would have a state in their own homeland. In return you would peace and the recognition of Israel that you desire. Even Hamas is on record as agreeing to that, if Israel could just listen for a change.

The simple fact that they still attack even when land is given back is enough not to trust them. And that is the problem. Israel is not going to give land back just so that they can move their rockets up even closer to Israel.
 
Smart political move on Olmert's part. If Israel stays in Gaza, Hamas can't make a coherent case that they "won" the conflict, since they failed to dislodge the Jewish invaders. If they agree to stop firing rockets and Israel pulls out, Israel gets what it wanted to start with.
 
Or, they can agree to stop firing and continue firing. Making Israeli look like morons and "innocent civilians" killers.
 
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