CFC NFL Pick'em Funtimes 2016-2017

sophie

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Hello and welcome everybody to the 2nd annual CFC Pick'em funtimes! If you're returning for your second go-'round then I'd like to warmly welcome you back and if this is your first time (out of two) then: PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!!

This is an Against-the-Spread pick'em league for the upcoming NFL season, and whether you're a hardcore football fan or just a casual watcher I encourage you all to participate. Why? Because it's very easy and, at least in my opinion, makes the season significantly more fun and watchable. It certainly gives you a reason to watch those otherwise godawful Jacksonville@Tampa Bay games we all know and love!

Before we get down to brass tacks, let's take a moment to look at last years standings, as well as congratulate last year's champion Darsnan (yes I know it's very belated, my bad):

Records listed as: (Win and Spread - Win, no spread - No points)
Spoiler :
Pos | Name | Points | Record
1 | Darsnan | 287 | (124-39-92)
2 | North_King | 286 | (116-54-85)
3 | Owen Glyndwr | 286 | (118-50-88)
4 | Light Cleric | 280 | (118-44-94)
5 | Timsup2nothin | 272 | (108-56-91)
6 | KMRblue | 135 | (54-28-53)
7 | Azale | 94 | (41-12-40)
8 | classical_hero | 66 | (29-8-23)
9 | madviking | 21 | (9-3-8)

So how does this all work? It's all quite simple. On Tuesday of each week of the season I will post a list of the spreads for that week. It'll look something like this:

Thursday, 8/20
Detroit @ Washington, Washington by 2.5

This game has a spread of -2.5, meaning the home team is favored by 2 and a half points. We here at CFC do things ever so slightly differently than most ATS pick'ems: in an ordinary ATS league you would take this spread and decide whether or not Washington covers this spread (that is - whether or not you think the visiting team's score will be 2.5 points lower than the home team's), but because this league's scoring is broken down into W/L and ATS, you as a participant in the pick'em league are now responsible for putting down one of three things, depending on what you think the outcome of the game is going to be. You can say Washington covers, which would mean that you think Washington is going to win by 3 points or more; you can say Washington does not cover, which means that you think Washington will win, but that they'll win by a margin of 2 points or fewer, or you can say Detroit wins outright, which means you think Detroit will win (duh).

It should look something like this:
Detroit @ Washington, Washington covers.

You do this for all the games of a given week and that is all that is required of you. It can take as little as 5 minutes of your time. So don't give me none of that (I don't have time for this) crap. You're welcome to place your picks as soon as the spreads for the week are posted and change them as many times as you want over the course of the week, however, you must place your pick before kick-off of the game in question and at that point the pick is final. Last season many people posted their pick for the TNF game during the week and withheld their Sunday and MNF picks for Saturday or Sunday morning. This practice is perfectly fine as long as the picks are placed before kickoff.

Scoring
I'll record your picks into my master spreadsheet and track them over the course of the games. For any given game you can receive a maximum of 2 points: 1 point for predicting the correct winner of the game and 1 point for guessing the spread correctly. For scoring purposes a push (the margin matching the spread precisely) is considered a cover. That is, if the spread is -3, and you pick the team to cover and they win by exactly 3 points, you will be awarded 2 points in the scoring. I'll tabulate the scores and post an end-of-week round-up on Tuesday with the current standings as well as give the spreads for the next week.

So that's all guys! I'll update this thread with the first weeks' spreads on Monday, September 7th so stay tuned! Also if you want use one or two of these preseason weeks as some practice to make sure you understand everything let me know and we can do that too. At any rate I'll be around so let me know if you have any questions, and please, tell your friends! Pick'em leagues are always more fun with more people!

Good luck and happy picking!
 
Alright. Thanks for waiting everyone, and without further ado here are your first 2016-2017 spreads! As with last year, all spreads are courtesy of covers.com.

Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5

Remember to get your picks in on time guys. You have until kick-off of the game in question. Good luck and happy picking!
 
screw your rules i'll make my own.

pittsburgh +7, miami -3, seattle -3.5, green bay -6.5, kansas city +1, indianapolis -2.5, cleveland +3, san diego -3, new orleans +2.5, baltimore +4.5, tampa bay -3, cincinnati -3.5, dallas -6, philadelphia -3, san francisco +2.5

outright: kc, cleveland, new orleans
 
screw your rules i'll make my own.

pittsburgh +7, miami -3, seattle -3.5, green bay -6.5, kansas city +1, indianapolis -2.5, cleveland +3, san diego -3, new orleans +2.5, baltimore +4.5, tampa bay -3, cincinnati -3.5, dallas -6, philadelphia -3, san francisco +2.5

I mean if you want to hinder your own opportunities to get points, I won't begrudge you. Do you want me to take the not covers as not covers or win outrights?

*EDIT* ok you changed it.
 
Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7 NE covers

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3 J'ville wins outright
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3 Miami covers
<defying an absolute rule that I have followed throughout twenty plus years of betting on NFL games on that one>
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5 Seattle wins, but does not cover
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5 GB wins, but does not cover
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1 Houston covers
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5 Indy wins, but does not cover
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3 Cleveland wins outright
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3 Detroit wins outright
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5 Arizona covers
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5 Denver covers
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3 TB covers
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5 Oakland wins outright
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6 Giants win outright

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3 Philly wins but does not cover
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5 SF wins outright
 
Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7 Patriots cover

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3 Panthers cover
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3 Lolphins cover
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5 Seahawks do not cover
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5 Packers cover
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1 Chiefs outright
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5 Buffalo outright
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3 Jets cover???????
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3 Loins outright
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5 Saints outright
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5 Broncos cover
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3 Buccaneers cover
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5 Bengals cover
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6 Giants outright

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3 Philadelphia covers
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5 Minnesota covers
 
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7 NE covers

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3 CAR doesn't cover
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3 WAS wins
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5 SEA covers
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5 GB doesn't cover
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1 KC wins
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5 IND covers
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3 CLE wins outright
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3 SD covers
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5 NO wins
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5 DEN doesn't cover
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3 TB doesn't cover
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5 OAK wins baby!
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6 DAL doesn't cover

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3 ATL wins
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5 SF wins

Lots of going against the spreads. Haven't read much about the season yet, and in my experience I do better when I don't. :)
 
I assume that anyone can participate?

Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7 NE doesn't cover

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3 Carolina covers
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3 Miami covers
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5 Seattle doesn't cover
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5 GB covers
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1 KC wins outright
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5 Indy covers
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3 Jets cover
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3 Detroit wins outright
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5 New Orleans wins outright
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5 Denver covers
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3 Tennessee wins outright
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5 Cincinnati covers
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6 Dallas doesn't cover

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3 Philly covers
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5 Minnesota covers
 
Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, [NE DOES NOT COVER]

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, [JACKSONVILLE COVERS]
Miami @ Washington, [MIAMI COVERS]
Seattle @ St. Louis, [SEATTLE COVERS]
Green Bay @ Chicago, [GREEN BAY DOES NOT COVER]
Kansas City @ Houston, [HOUSTON COVERS]
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, [BUFFALO WINS OUTRIGHT]
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, [CLEVELAND WINS OUTRIGHT]
Detroit @ San Diego, [SAN DIEGO COVERS]
New Orleans @ Arizona, [ARIZONA COVERS]
Baltimore @ Denver, [DENVER DOES NOT COVER]
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, [TAMPA BAY COVERS]
Cincinnati @ Oakland, [CINCINNATI COVERS]
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, [DALLAS COVERS]

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, [ATLANTA WINS OUTRIGHT]
Minnesota @ San Francisco, [SAN FRANCISCO WINS OUTRIGHT]
 
Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, New England by 7 NE covers

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, Carolina by 3 Does not cover
Miami @ Washington, Miami by 3 Washington wins outright
Seattle @ St. Louis, Seattle by 3.5 Seattle does cover
Green Bay @ Chicago, Green Bay by 6.5 GB covers
Kansas City @ Houston, Houston by 1 KC wins outright
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, Indianapolis by 2.5 Indy does cover
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, Jets by 3 Cleveland wins outright
Detroit @ San Diego, San Diego by 3 San diego does not cover
New Orleans @ Arizona, Arizona by 2.5 Arizona covers
Baltimore @ Denver, Denver by 4.5 Denver covers
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay by 3 TB covers
Cincinnati @ Oakland, Cincinnati by 3.5 Oakland wins outright
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, Dallas by 6 Dallas does not cover

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, Philadelphia by 3 Atlanta wins outright
Minnesota @ San Francisco, Minnesota by 2.5 San Fran wins outright.
 
Hey guys - just a quick clarification since I got asked about this last night:

for the purposes of this pick'em league pushes (that is, the points value of the spread being hit exactly) will be considered the same as a cover. I.E.: when you see NE by seven and you take the cover you are saying that you think New England will win by seven points or more, not more than seven points.

All impugning on the moral or legal legitimacy of the Pat's win last night aside, in this league specifically:

if you picked the Pats to cover, you got 2 points
if you picked the Pats to not cover (but still win), you got 1 point
if you picked the Steelers to win outright, you got no points.
 
Thursday, 9/10
Pittsburgh @ New England, [PICKED NE TO COVER]

Sunday, 9/13
Carolina @ Jacksonville, [JACKSONVILLE COVERS]
Miami @ Washington, [MIAMI COVERS]
Seattle @ St. Louis, [SEATTLE COVERS]
Green Bay @ Chicago, [GREEN BAY COVERS]
Kansas City @ Houston, [KANSAS CITY WINS OUTRIGHT]
Indianapolis @ Buffalo, [BUFFALO WINS OUTRIGHT]
Cleveland @ N.Y. Jets, [JETS COVER]
Detroit @ San Diego, [SAN DIEGO COVERS]
New Orleans @ Arizona, [ARIZONA COVERS]
Baltimore @ Denver, [DENVER DOES NOT COVER]
Tennessee @ Tampa Bay, [TAMPA BAY COVERS]
Cincinnati @ Oakland, [CINCINNATI COVERS]
N.Y. Giants @ Dallas, [DALLAS COVERS]

Monday, 9/14
Philadelphia @ Atlanta, [ATLANTA WINS OUTRIGHT]
Minnesota @ San Francisco, [SAN FRANCISCO WINS OUTRIGHT]
 
Well, if I hit both games tomorrow night...

this weekend will still really suck.
 
Alrighty, so week 1 is in the books. Despite (or perhaps because of? :mischief:) Week 1 being such a crapshoot, everyone actually ended up doing quite well. But before we get into the nitty gritty, let's take a quite glance at the standings after 16 games:

Pos | Name | Points | Record
1| Light Cleric | 24 | (11-2-3)
2 | vivalamexico | 19 | (9-1-6)
3 | Azale | 18 | (9-0-7)
4 | Owen Glyndwr | 18 | (7-4-5)
5 | classical_hero | 15 | (7-1-7)¹
6 | illram | 15 | (6-3-7)
7 | madviking | 13 | (5-3-7)*
8 | Timsup2nothin | 11 | (5-1-10)

¹pick for PIT@NE discounted due to being made after start of game
*pick for CAR@JAX discounted due to being made after start of game



Newcomer vivalamexico ends up atop the standings this week behind 9 correct picks, one of which (Tennessee) he was the only one to get right. Azale likewise had an excellent week behind a large number of correct 2-point games. Aside from Tennessee no game completely stumped our group, with at least 2 people earning points on every game with the sole exception of the Seattle game, which blindsided everyone. The Miami game was the most successful pick of the week - everyone picked up 2 points on it except for illram.

Here's a copy of the spreadsheet tallying the picks - feel free to check it and let me know if I made any mistakes:

It should be noted now, in response to the very near-tie (or actual tie for 2nd place) last year, I'm ordering the standings slightly differently. Whereas last year if two people had the same points total they were considered tied in the standings, this year I'm using number of games with pick and spread correct (first number in the record) as a tie breaker, hence Azale with 9 2-point games is in 2nd and I'm in 3rd with 7. If we still have problems with ties at the top we'll have to revisit this.

Ok, that's out of the way, on to the main event:

let's take a look at the Week 2 picks, courtesy of covers.com

Thursday, 9/17
Denver @ Kansas City, Kansas City by 3

Sunday, 9/20
San Diego @ Cincinnati, Cincinnati by 3
Tennessee @ Cleveland, Tennessee by 1
New England @ Buffalo, New England by 1.5
St. Louis @ Washington, St. Louis by 3.5
Atlanta @ N.Y. Giants, New York by 2.5
Houston @ Carolina, Carolina by 3
San Francisco @ Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh by 5.5
Tampa Bay @ New Orleans, New Orleans by 10
Arizona @ Chicago, Arizona by 1.5
Detroit @ Minnesota, Minnesota by 3
Baltimore @ Oakland, Baltimore by 6.5
Miami @ Jacksonville, Miami by 6
Dallas @ Philadelphia, Philadelphia by 5.5
Seattle @ Green Bay, Green Bay by 3.5

Monday, 9/21
N.Y. Jets @ Indianapolis, Indianapolis by 7


Other than that, good luck and happy picking guys!
 
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