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Challenge: A Billion of People!

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by micbic, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. micbic

    micbic Optimistic Pessimist

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    Simple, thread title says it all. How early can you achieve populations of 1 billion with the RFC civs? The challenge to be played @Monarch level, 1.187. Thanks to AP for the idea in the "ZOMFG Look What Happened" thread.

    China: 1823, youtien
    India:
    Babylon:
    Egypt:
    Greece: 1778, Soda
    Rome:
    Japan: 1721, youtien
    Carthage:
    Persia:
    Maya:
    Ethiopia:
    Khmer:
    Arabia:
    France: 1872, Jusos2108
    Germany:
    Poland
    Spain:
    England: 1823, blizzrd
    Russia:
    Vikings: 1943, Jusos2108
    Aztecs:
    Incas:
    Turkey:
    Mongolia:
    Mali:
    Netherlands: 1930, Tlonitte
    Portugal:
    USA: 1979, Tlonitte

    Good luck to all!
     
  2. nody

    nody Chieftain

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    Z??? Oh My F*cking God?


    Do RFC RAND games count?
     
  3. micbic

    micbic Optimistic Pessimist

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    *Z is added for sarcasm in OM(F)G, means nothing.

    *Unfortunately not, otherwise I would post it in the RAND thread. Anyways, AP says it is easy. :)
     
  4. Wessel V1

    Wessel V1 Chieftain

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    Although I congratulate you for not having forgotten Poland, you did forget Mali.
     
  5. Magnificent One

    Magnificent One Stetsons are cool.

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    Mali would be impossible anyway.
     
  6. SalmonSoil

    SalmonSoil Chieftain

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    I can't believe you would invalidate the only civ I'm good at.
     
  7. Dumanios

    Dumanios MLG

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    I have taken on the challenge of China.

     
  8. killerkebab

    killerkebab Chieftain

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    Though there is a "1" next to Beijing, I would like to point out the number does not represent billions of people ;)
     
  9. sercer88

    sercer88 Chieftain

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    Ok just as a quick guide for obtaining the fastest victories, could someone please make a post containing a column showing population points vs another column showing "real" population

    like so:
    1: 10000
    2: 50000
    3: etc...
     
  10. killerkebab

    killerkebab Chieftain

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    Population points vs. real population changes over time. A size 26 city in 600AD will not have the same population as the same size 26 city in 1995AD, for instance.
     
  11. micbic

    micbic Optimistic Pessimist

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    For population checking, just open the Demographics screen (F10?)
     
  12. sercer88

    sercer88 Chieftain

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    really?
    Ok, then a chart would be impossible.

    The reason why I wanted a chart is so we could have a little bit of a guideline as to how many cities at size 20 you would need for example... but I guess since pop points vs real population is dynamic, it isn't going to happen.
     
  13. Úmarth

    Úmarth Megalomaniac

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    Sure it's possible, you just need a lot more columns =P
     
  14. Jusos2108

    Jusos2108 Chieftain

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    3000BC or 600AD? Or both together?
     
  15. micbic

    micbic Optimistic Pessimist

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    Both, but will be considered as separate challenges.
     
  16. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    No it wouldn't, however you will need 35 lines (a single line per population point)
     
  17. Tlönitte

    Tlönitte Chieftain

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    Here's a billion Dutchmen, circa 1930. I believe they were the easiest, though not necessarily the fastest. Water tiles and Dikes were the keys to success, that and corporations everywhere. This is the first 1.187 game I've used corporations in, I really miss the W.A.S.P mod...

    My final population
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    And here's my city layout
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    My Capital with 105 million inhabitants
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    and my final stability
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    Note the Mexican cities were fresh conquests, gradually being liberated to the Incas and Americans to keep my empire stable


    I enjoyed this challenge, as its very different from the other victories I tend to go for. In this case I decided to hit Biology and Sushi before expanding past 20ish cities, so that used up a lot of time. I accidentaly won a Domination Victory as bits of Turkey kept splitting off as respawned Civs, lowering the Domination %. Stability was a pain too, I had to keep picking on the little Civs as liberation meat, by the end everyone was a vassal of the top 5 civs and I was reduced to attacking respawns of Turkey. If anyone is interested in this challenge I would recommend the Dutch, im sure 1930 is an easily beatable target
     

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  18. nody

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    What happened to us? Nowadays, there are only 20 million of us left (if you count Flemish too)... :lol:

    IRL, 1 billion Dutchmen in 2930, that could be possible...

    Spoiler :
    ...if the Dutch people all convert to Islam which encourages (forces) at least three babies per woman, that is. :p
     
  19. Tlönitte

    Tlönitte Chieftain

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    There are some very angry French and Russians either side, it got a bit dicey towards the end, they might have something to do with it
     
  20. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    Tips on Cities (with bio, no corps)
    Kalmar (1SE Lake in Sweden) can hit 36 population
    Amsterdam (settle in place) can hit 32 Pop
    Detroit (1S Lake Michigan) can hit 35
    Philadelphia (1NE cows) can hit 33 pop
    1W of Lake Superior goes to 28
    New Orleans (1N fish) goes to 31
    Jakarta (1E Sugar) goes to 30
     

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