# Challenge: A Billion of People!

#### micbic

##### Optimistic Pessimist
Simple, thread title says it all. How early can you achieve populations of 1 billion with the RFC civs? The challenge to be played @Monarch level, 1.187. Thanks to AP for the idea in the "ZOMFG Look What Happened" thread.

China: 1823, youtien
India:
Babylon:
Egypt:
Greece: 1778, Soda
Rome:
Japan: 1721, youtien
Carthage:
Persia:
Maya:
Ethiopia:
Khmer:
Arabia:
France: 1872, Jusos2108
Germany:
Poland
Spain:
England: 1823, blizzrd
Russia:
Vikings: 1943, Jusos2108
Aztecs:
Incas:
Turkey:
Mongolia:
Mali:
Netherlands: 1930, Tlonitte
Portugal:
USA: 1979, Tlonitte

Good luck to all!

*Z is added for sarcasm in OM(F)G, means nothing.

*Unfortunately not, otherwise I would post it in the RAND thread. Anyways, AP says it is easy.

Although I congratulate you for not having forgotten Poland, you did forget Mali.

Mali would be impossible anyway.

I can't believe you would invalidate the only civ I'm good at.

I have taken on the challenge of China.

Though there is a "1" next to Beijing, I would like to point out the number does not represent billions of people

Ok just as a quick guide for obtaining the fastest victories, could someone please make a post containing a column showing population points vs another column showing "real" population

like so:
1: 10000
2: 50000
3: etc...

Population points vs. real population changes over time. A size 26 city in 600AD will not have the same population as the same size 26 city in 1995AD, for instance.

For population checking, just open the Demographics screen (F10?)

Population points vs. real population changes over time. A size 26 city in 600AD will not have the same population as the same size 26 city in 1995AD, for instance.

really?
Ok, then a chart would be impossible.

For population checking, just open the Demographics screen (F10?)

The reason why I wanted a chart is so we could have a little bit of a guideline as to how many cities at size 20 you would need for example... but I guess since pop points vs real population is dynamic, it isn't going to happen.

Sure it's possible, you just need a lot more columns =P

3000BC or 600AD? Or both together?

Both, but will be considered as separate challenges.

really?
Ok, then a chart would be impossible.

The reason why I wanted a chart is so we could have a little bit of a guideline as to how many cities at size 20 you would need for example... but I guess since pop points vs real population is dynamic, it isn't going to happen.

No it wouldn't, however you will need 35 lines (a single line per population point)

Here's a billion Dutchmen, circa 1930. I believe they were the easiest, though not necessarily the fastest. Water tiles and Dikes were the keys to success, that and corporations everywhere. This is the first 1.187 game I've used corporations in, I really miss the W.A.S.P mod...

My final population
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And here's my city layout
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My Capital with 105 million inhabitants
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and my final stability
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Note the Mexican cities were fresh conquests, gradually being liberated to the Incas and Americans to keep my empire stable

I enjoyed this challenge, as its very different from the other victories I tend to go for. In this case I decided to hit Biology and Sushi before expanding past 20ish cities, so that used up a lot of time. I accidentaly won a Domination Victory as bits of Turkey kept splitting off as respawned Civs, lowering the Domination %. Stability was a pain too, I had to keep picking on the little Civs as liberation meat, by the end everyone was a vassal of the top 5 civs and I was reduced to attacking respawns of Turkey. If anyone is interested in this challenge I would recommend the Dutch, im sure 1930 is an easily beatable target

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Here's a billion Dutchmen, circa 1930.

What happened to us? Nowadays, there are only 20 million of us left (if you count Flemish too)...

IRL, 1 billion Dutchmen in 2930, that could be possible...

Spoiler :
...if the Dutch people all convert to Islam which encourages (forces) at least three babies per woman, that is.

What happened to us?

There are some very angry French and Russians either side, it got a bit dicey towards the end, they might have something to do with it

Tips on Cities (with bio, no corps)
Kalmar (1SE Lake in Sweden) can hit 36 population
Amsterdam (settle in place) can hit 32 Pop
Detroit (1S Lake Michigan) can hit 35
Philadelphia (1NE cows) can hit 33 pop
1W of Lake Superior goes to 28
New Orleans (1N fish) goes to 31
Jakarta (1E Sugar) goes to 30

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