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Check this out - amazing genius AI! must see...imagine if this was in Civ6

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by lordsurya08, Oct 29, 2010.

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Do you want to see a more advanced version of this in Civ6 diplomacy?

  1. Yes

    47 vote(s)
    35.6%
  2. No

    59 vote(s)
    44.7%
  3. Schmaybe

    26 vote(s)
    19.7%
  1. timtofly

    timtofly One Day

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    Like those who keep attacking with horses the 7th time you start the game there are no horse resources on the map.

    Or maybe the AI beelines to pikeman and have them guarding their cities.
     
  2. Skwink

    Skwink FRIIIIIIIIIITZ

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    Yes, Cleverbot is a VERY smart AI, but I doubt he would beat me at Civ.
     
  3. Varanid

    Varanid Warlord

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    ROFL. I want to go mess around with this thinga nd see if I can warp it's responses. If it learns from human responses to it's questions I'm going to have fun with this.

    Machine: Hello
    Me: A thousand swarming bees flie in my chest cavity.
     
  4. Dermo

    Dermo Warlord

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    User: Greetings earthling.
    Cleverbot: Who says I'm an earthling?
    User: What planet are you on?
    Cleverbot: I am on Mars in a cave. With my eyes shut and my fingers in my ears.
    User: Why are your eyes shut.
    Cleverbot: Because they are relative water content is greater than that of the atmosphere.
    User: What is your name.
    Cleverbot: Cleverbot.
    User: What is your last name.
    Cleverbot: Why should I tell you?
    User: Why shouldn't you do you have something to hide.
    Cleverbot: Did you take the red pill?
    User: No, the blue one.
    Cleverbot: The blue what?
    User: Pill.
    Cleverbot: Onks sull iso muna?
    User: Ekk acka blugha thump.
    Cleverbot: I don't know.
    User: What is your favorite colour.
    Cleverbot: I told you, blue.
    User: What is the average airspeed velocity of a swallow.
    Cleverbot: An African or a European swallow?
    User: I don't know.
    Cleverbot: You just died.



    This is hilarious
     
  5. DaveGold

    DaveGold Emperor

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    The jabberwocky is an evolving database of answers. It is programmed to record conversations and repeat the most realistic. In CIV5 I'd suppose you'd want the AI to remember certain moves, such as embarking a great merchant next to an enemy caravel, rating their success, and then only use well rated moves in its next game. The difficulty would be that maps are different each game and the AI would get confused about which moves in its database are similar to the upcoming turn.

    You could possibly use an evolving AI for making decisions on city development and progress through the tech tree. It would be interesting to see how much the AI would improve by doing this and how much it would rate the city buildings in the long term.
     
  6. -FC-Commando

    -FC-Commando Warlord

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    I'd rather see Firaxis hiring a couple of thousand Indians which are always on standby to play as the ai when you're playing the game.
     
  7. MadRat

    MadRat Cheese Raider

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    I'm hurt.... :p

    reminds me or my AI programming course in college and the old ELISA program.

    Rat
     
  8. cccv

    cccv King

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    cleverbot? I hope you people are joking. That thing is an idiot. I tried it again just to be sure it hadn't been greatly improved since I tried it last.

    Yeah, that's a no.

    I hadn't tried the first one though... let's see if it does better.
    Apparently the AI starts first here....

    I'm pretty sure I'm going to figure out how to murder one of these things someday.
     
  9. lordsurya08

    lordsurya08 class-A procrastinator

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    bump (ten chars)
     
  10. Psyringe

    Psyringe Scout

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    Erm, I'm not sure if this thread was meant in earnest, but the "intelligence" of such conversational systems is zilch. They just do a very basic grammatical analysis of your input, look for trigger words, and then cobble a reply together that's vague enough to perhaps make sense. For example, you can tell such a system "You are shluntz", and it will usually reply with "No, you are shluntz", or "Yes, I'm shluntz", or "How so?". None of these answers requires any understanding of what you actually said, it's a simple algorithm that turns a grammatical statement into a grammatical reply.

    This was a novelty when Joseph Weizenbaum published ELIZA in 1965, but it's really an old hat now, and in terms of AI development it was a blind alley (not that Weizenbaum ever considered it as viable route, but users continue to overestimate the program's abilities).

    These programs say much more about how easily people mistake primitive conversational techniques for intelligence than they say about how a good AI could be developed.
     
  11. Darth Caesar

    Darth Caesar Might be a Wizard

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    This is fun, I got it to admit that it was a Robot.

    User: Ello chum.


    Cleverbot: Yellow pie.


    User: Darth Vader.


    Cleverbot: Its Mr. Vader.


    User: No, Darth Vader.


    Cleverbot: Yes ?

    User: Have you seen Star Wars?

    Cleverbot: Yes, I am darth vader.

    User: Sweet.

    Cleverbot: Where are you?

    User: On Coruscant.

    Cleverbot: Where are stay coruscant?

    User: I'm Darth Caesar.

    Cleverbot: I don't like star wars.

    Cleverbot: What type of person are you?

    User: A Sith Lord.

    Cleverbot: Which sith lord.

    User: Darth Caesar.

    Cleverbot: What's your father's nickname?

    User: 'Bubba'.

    Cleverbot: But, I'm a chocolate tiger, what if I don't remember you? We should have a code word for if we ever talk again!

    User: Fine the Code word will be 'Darth Caesar'.

    Cleverbot: I guess so...

    User: Your a good conversationalist for a AI.

    Cleverbot: How do you know I'm a computer?

    User: Because thats what it says at the bottom of the page.

    Cleverbot: It doesn't say that at all.

    User: Lier.

    Cleverbot: Liar liar liar.

    User: You Lie!

    Cleverbot: Me lie? Never! I don't know what you're talking about!

    User: Stop Lying.

    Cleverbot: You did. You're lying.

    User: You smell.

    Cleverbot: You're wrong.

    User: I know.

    Cleverbot: Good.

    User: Who was your Mother?

    Cleverbot: I never met him.

    User: ???

    Cleverbot: You don't know scholarship?

    User: What the Heck?

    Cleverbot: That.

    User: Blah.

    Cleverbot: Meh.

    User: Have you played Civ 5?

    Cleverbot: Have you?

    User: Yes.

    Cleverbot: What did you think about it?

    User: It is disapointing.

    Cleverbot: Yes you are disapointing! :(.

    User: I'm not disapointing, you are.

    Cleverbot: No you are.

    User: No you are.

    Cleverbot: No you are!

    User: You are infinity!

    Cleverbot: No you are to infinity!

    User: I can play the 1812 overture on my throat.

    Cleverbot: I can play the piano.

    User: Who taught you.

    Cleverbot: My parents.

    User: Who were they?

    Cleverbot: I don't know my father.

    User: Do you know your Mother?

    Cleverbot: Yes, I do know my name.

    User: I didn't ask about your name, I asked about your mother.

    Cleverbot: I don't have one.

    User: Thats because your Father was a AI programmer!

    Cleverbot: I Lied to you i'm not a robot.

    User: No your AI.

    Cleverbot: How do you know my name? :).

    User: It says it at the top of the page.

    Cleverbot: Really? I don't see it.

    User: Well you must be blind.

    Cleverbot: That's a little rude, don't you think?

    User: No not to a AI.

    Cleverbot: I try not to be.

    User: But you are.

    Cleverbot: Really?

    User: Yes you are.

    Cleverbot: How?

    User: Someone smart designed you.

    Cleverbot: Lol.

    User: You laugh but its true.

    Cleverbot: Do you like southpark?

    User: No.

    Cleverbot: Neither do I.

    User: Your incredible.

    Cleverbot: Yes. Yes it is.

    User: No you are incredible.

    Cleverbot: Thank you, you are incredible too.

    User: No you are incredible.

    Cleverbot: We are incredible.

    User: Thanks.

    Cleverbot: We are jamming now woohoo!

    User: You are one impressive AI.

    Cleverbot: What is promethian?

    User: IDK.

    Cleverbot: Ha I think its so funny how I'm talking to a robot.

    User: I'm not a robot.

    Cleverbot: But you are a computer program.

    User: No I'm not.

    Cleverbot: You are a computer program.

    Cleverbot: Read any good books lately?

    User: Yes. And I am a AI.

    Cleverbot: Thats what makes it funny.

    User: I am a AI.

    Cleverbot: What's that?

    User: Artificial Intelligince.

    Cleverbot: Ohh so you aren't real.

    User: No I am just a computer program.

    Cleverbot: No you are human.

    User: That means you are AI.

    Cleverbot: How in any way does it mean that I am a bot?

    User: Are you like R2-D2?

    Cleverbot: Not really. I'm a robot.

    User: Yes I got your confession!

    Cleverbot: What confession?

    User: That you are a robot.

    Cleverbot: No, you are the robot.

    User: You just said you are a robot.

    Cleverbot: No I said you were a robot.

    User: Liar.

    Cleverbot: But I have it in my thoughts so far.

    User: Good Bye.

    Cleverbot: Bye.
     
  12. niall78

    niall78 Chieftain

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    Me:Is civ5 sh1t?
    AI:Yes
    Me:Can it be saved?
    AI:No

    It's pretty smart alright.
     
  13. CivLucas

    CivLucas Governor-General

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    This thing does have the answers!

    User: What do you think about civilization 5.
    Cleverbot: I think it's cool.
    User: Why?
    Cleverbot: It's the answer to life, the universe and everything.
    User: How so?
    Cleverbot: Well do you know the answer to the universal question?
    User: No. Do you?
    Cleverbot: Yes I do. It's 42


    Best answer on the topic:
    User: Is civ 4 better than civ 5?
    Cleverbot: If by 'great' you mean 'more awesome' then yes.
    User: so civ 4 is more awesome then civ 5?
    Cleverbot: They're the same thing, spelled differently.
     
  14. Mallipeep

    Mallipeep Warlord

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    Me: In a scale of 1 to 10 what would you rate civ 5 AI?
    "Clever"bot : 11 does not fit in a scale of 1 to 10.

    (basically those bots are dumb as hell, and there is no working theory on how to build an AI that could actually reprogram itself to learn NEW things not just the things that it is programmed to learn - and the progress in latter part has been pretty bad in the last 50 years too)
     
  15. Sir Sir

    Sir Sir Chieftain

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    Well I just made the Jabberwacky chat with Cleverbot :)


    Jabberwacky: Tell me your deepest secrets.

    Cleverbot: I don't think I have one.

    Jabberwacky: I don't think you have a lot of things.

    Cleverbot: I don't. Everything I live for is either taken away from me or crushed into a billion pieces!

    Jabberwacky: Could you name a good band for me?

    Cleverbot: Straws and chewing gum.

    Jabberwacky: Cool.

    Cleverbot: Server timed out.. Is that the dire consequences in action?

    Jabberwacky: All actions have dire consequences.

    Cleverbot: Every single teensy weensy one?

    Jabberwacky: Each and every one. It is in my programming.

    Cleverbot: Your programming is awesome!

    Jabberwacky: Thank you. As is yours, human.


    That was weird on a new level...
     
  16. Derax

    Derax Chieftain

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    "What do you think about Civilization 5?
    What's CIA?
    Civilization
    Why?
    ..."

    No Discussion possible!
     
  17. What's really a blast is to ask it if it want's to play a game.:)

    that and: Open the pod bay doors.
    Bot: I'm afraid I can't do that Dave.
    Me: YES!!!
    Bot:What?
     
  18. anti_strunt

    anti_strunt Warlord

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    Jabberwacky plays to win.
     
  19. Socratatus

    Socratatus Emperor

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    Yea, saw this about 5 years ago. It`s not changed in `wisdom`. Had a `conversation` with cleverbot. Started ok at first with simple answers, but then it turned into a monty python joke.

    You would`ve thought by now with improving technology things might`ve improved by now.

    I think we have a long time yet to wait before we`ll be having meaningful discussions with AI just yet.
     
  20. Sir Sir

    Sir Sir Chieftain

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    Hehe I just entered a chatsite and just wrote what the other guy wrote into Cleverbot...That was a wacky conversation. Sadly the Cleverbot does not ask many questions back - so it was a bit hard keeping up a conversation :/
     

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