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Children of the Emperor – Life and Death amidst the Clans of Japan

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Stories & Let's Plays' started by yahzuk, Jan 11, 2011.

  1. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    Yes :D technological advancement to attempt to narrow the gap is important and an increasing rate of great people is good.
     
  2. filli_noctus

    filli_noctus Hmmn

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    The jungles around Osaka and Kagoshima are our greatest scientific resource but we need universities to make use of them. Along with an aggressive program of trading post building among the jungles the Kagaku clan intends to deal with our economic AND scientific issues.
     
  3. Pouakai

    Pouakai It belongs in a museum. Moderator

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    Removing the jungles, however, provides additional food and production, vital in our empire's growth
     
  4. grzybek

    grzybek The Mad Sciencist

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    When we get money growth is not a problem.

    We can solve it via Granary, Hospital, Aqueduct and Maritime states. If we lack money happens something like right now :)

    Reg. what Filli Noctus said. This is the plan of Kagaku from the very beginning, this is why we took control of 2 least production cities and we are focused on that goal constantly.
     
  5. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    Excellent. So it appears that through natural action the main clans have all achieved somewhat a status quo of jurisdictions in the empire to achieve their own purposes. The Bunka have Kyoto, the Gaiko have Satsuma and Tokyo (money for city states obviously) and the Kagaku have Kagoshima and Osaka.

    The pitiful Shihai naturally being warmongers and tyrants cannot create any lasting goal (they only destroy) and has instead faded into irrelevance. Although perhaps in time with rising numbers their destructive tendencies will rise again and we will see the same sort of barbaric tyranny that Gethe initiated in Kyoto, and unwarranted and barbaric assasination attempts and coups in a mad bid for power without any other cause than furthering destruction and discord as with Dragon in his failed attempt against me.
     
  6. filli_noctus

    filli_noctus Hmmn

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    It is obvious the Shihai do not have the patience for politics. Even with support they failed to oust the Kagaku of Osaka and now their most venerable house has been cast from the council in disgrace. It is tragic and yet somehow highly amusing to see the clan of the great Arexander brought so low.
     
  7. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    Indeed.

    I suppose if they kept to the noble, honourable, and cultured even traditions of Bushido upheld in dignity by Arexander the great they would still sit at the table of discussion in our empire. Yet they have fallen into barbarous and bloodthirsty ideologies, the idea of total war, tyranny, wanton and needless bloodshed.

    With their fall into depravity, their political power has likewise fallen away. As in the words of the great kami it is written.

    The first shall be last and the last shall be first. For the first clan to rule japan is now its weakest, and the last (Gaiko) to rule in our beginnings has now come to dominate our empire.
     
  8. yahzuk

    yahzuk Agent of Chaos

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    Admin Note: was busy this weekend with some family events - hopefully tonight for the update
     
  9. PlyPlay665

    PlyPlay665 First King of Persia

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    Exactly, we dominate. Although, it doesn't seem we're doing the greatest job.. considering the main two things the Gaiko should be worried about are money and peace...
     
  10. Nonevah

    Nonevah Chieftain

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    I think, you forget, my friend, that declaring war on Major Civs really isn't a problem when it comes to your city-state diplomacy, unless they are allies. On the other hand, Japan's weak economy quickly undermines your goals.

    OOC: Yahzuk, if we end up somehow getting a time victory, who wins? :End OOC

    In addition, I am appalled at the accusations that Daimyo Jehoshua has leveled against me. How dare you say that I preformed a VIVISECTION on a man I considered as my own son! If I was not a civilized man, you would be certain to find assassins at your doorstep tomorrow!
     
  11. Bowsling

    Bowsling Chieftain

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    I don't believe that that will be an issue, we must have a rather pitiful score.
     
  12. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    Ah but you may not be, as you say, a civilised man. The Kagaku are known for occasional barbarity, need I recall the incident when Filli Noctus cold-bloodedly murdered by shooting with an arrow an innocent to proove a scientific point. Naturally the person was American but the point remains that civilised man does not randomly slay inferiors. I would not be surprised that you, who are less distinguished than Filli Noctus would do far worse than simply murder an american.

    As to the assassins you could try. But being 141 and supreme autocrat of Kyoto I think they would fail miserably although of course their remains a chance. The Lord of Japan only become stronger with age thanks to an increase in loyal guards as time goes on. (not to mention cunning and wisdom increases.)
     
  13. yahzuk

    yahzuk Agent of Chaos

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    The Council session is now closed.
     
  14. Rudragun

    Rudragun Chieftain

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    Daimyo Jehoshua,
    Surely, you are unfair in your condemnation of the Kagaku. The Bunka, the Gaiko, and the Shihai all have bad eggs. The Bunka do things for ideals, the Gaiko for favor, the Shihai for patriotism, and the Kagaku for science. These are the true divisions of our clans, not perceived differences in moral integrity. Also, I believe you owe Sensei Nonevah an apology for insulting what is, as he sees it, his humanity.
    Besides, I should think you of all people would have no objection to a civilized man executing an enemy, especially an American, reasons notwithstanding. Given a chance, I imagine you would happily slay them all.

    Sincerely,
    Daimyo Rudragun
     
  15. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    I suppose you are correct that the Kagaku arent all bad. As to the American the person in question had commited no crime and was unarmed. If in an alternate reality that person was a criminal or an enemy warrior during a state of war, then I would naturally order that person flayed alive and have his corpse impaled on a stake along the roadside of the Kyoto/Osaka highway along with others gaining that punishment, with his skin being offered at the alloted place in the marshes to the ineffable oni. But summary executions of innocents even when they are americans during peacetime as it was then is criminal and barbaric.

    But I have a question for you regarding Sensei Nonevah consisting of a single word...

    Humanity?
     
  16. yahzuk

    yahzuk Agent of Chaos

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    The Council of T218 is now closed.

    During the recess….
    Nothing interesting happens.

    The voting session of T226 is now open until 22:00 GMT-6 on Wednesday.

    Kyoto Local Influence Votes
    226-KL-1: What shall we add to the production queue of Kyoto.
    market
    musketman
    granary
    nothing

    226-KL-3: Should we dispand the Japanese Navy?
    Yes
    No

    Tokyo Local Votes:
    226-TL-1: Add to Tokyo's queue?
    a) Musketman
    b) Nothing

    Votes for Kagoshima
    226-KGL-1: What shall we build after the University?
    a) Walls
    b) Granary
    c) Lighthouse
    d) Bank
    e) nothing

    Scientific Influence Votes:
    226-S-1: What shall we research?

    226-S-2: Catherine is number two in tech, should we offer her a declaration of friendship?
    Yes
    No
    When hell freezes over.

    Admin Notes = Of the two declartion of friendship votes, I decided we didn't need both and this one seemed more specific

    226-S-3: Adjust Policy?

    226-S-4: Don't accept DoFs from anyone who has denounced or been denounced by someone we already have a DoF with?

    226-S-5: Accept DoFs from Arabia?

    226-S-6: Accept DoFs from Mongolia

    226-S-7: Accept DoFs from Russia

    226-S-8: Accept DoFs from nations yet unmet? (everyone except those mentioned)

    226-S-9: Don't accept DoFs from Germany?

    226-S-10: Don't accept DoFs from America?

    Military Influence Votes:
    226-M-1: What city shall Ishiyumi Kimyona be given to?
     
  17. Jehoshua

    Jehoshua Catholic

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    The Council of T218 is now closed.

    Something terrible must be happening for nothing to occur. Its clearly the period of calm before a storm, the eerie silence before a battle commences.

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    VOTES OF THE HOUSE OF JEHOSHUA - JEHOSHUA, ATHANASIOS, ASURYAN.

    The voting session of T226 is now open until 22:00 GMT-6 on Wednesday.

    226-KL-1: What shall we add to the production queue of Kyoto.

    market

    226-KL-3: Should we dispand the Japanese Navy?

    No

    226-S-1: What shall we research?

    Metallurgy

    226-S-2: Catherine is number two in tech, should we offer her a declaration of friendship?

    Yes

    226-S-3: Adjust Policy?

    Yes.

    226-S-4: Don't accept DoFs from anyone who has denounced or been denounced by someone we already have a DoF with?

    Yes

    226-S-5: Accept DoFs from Arabia?

    No

    226-S-6: Accept DoFs from Mongolia

    Yes

    226-S-7: Accept DoFs from Russia .

    Yes

    226-S-8: Accept DoFs from nations yet unmet? (everyone except those mentioned)

    No

    226-S-9: Don't accept DoFs from Germany?

    Yes

    226-S-10: Don't accept DoFs from America?

    Yes

    226-M-1: What city shall Ishiyumi Kimyona be given to?

    Kyoto.
     
  18. Chieron

    Chieron Chieftain

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    Votes for Daimyo Treon and the Senseis Chieron Andra and Kyowara

    Tokyo Local Votes: (Treon)
    226-TL-1: Add to Tokyo's queue?
    a) Musketman


    Scientific Influence Votes:
    226-S-1: What shall we research?
    Chemistry

    226-S-2: Catherine is number two in tech, should we offer her a declaration of friendship?
    Yes, provided we get aid against those Russian fur parasites!



    226-S-3: Adjust Policy?
    Yes

    226-S-4: Don't accept DoFs from anyone who has denounced or been denounced by someone we already have a DoF with?
    Yes

    226-S-5: Accept DoFs from Arabia?
    No

    226-S-6: Accept DoFs from Mongolia
    Yes

    226-S-7: Accept DoFs from Russia
    Yes

    226-S-8: Accept DoFs from nations yet unmet? (everyone except those mentioned)
    No (new vote can be called, if the need arises/new civs are met)

    226-S-9: Don't accept DoFs from Germany?
    Yes

    226-S-10: Don't accept DoFs from America?
    Yes

    Military Influence Votes:
    226-M-1: What city shall Ishiyumi Kimyona be given to?
    Tokyo, as frontline city
     
  19. Rudragun

    Rudragun Chieftain

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    Scientific Influence Votes:
    226-S-1: What shall we research?
    Chemistry

    226-S-2: Catherine is number two in tech, should we offer her a declaration of friendship?
    Yes

    226-S-3: Adjust Policy?
    Yes

    226-S-4: Don't accept DoFs from anyone who has denounced or been denounced by someone we already have a DoF with?
    Yes

    226-S-5: Accept DoFs from Arabia?
    Yes

    226-S-6: Accept DoFs from Mongolia?
    Yes

    226-S-7: Accept DoFs from Russia?

    Yes

    226-S-8: Accept DoFs from nations yet unmet? (everyone except those mentioned)
    No (the one we have not met is apparently rather behind)

    226-S-9: Don't accept DoFs from Germany?
    Yes

    226-S-10: Don't accept DoFs from America?
    Yes

    Military Influence Votes:
    226-M-1: What city shall Ishiyumi Kimyona be given to?
    Osaka (a border city)
     
  20. Double Stack

    Double Stack Chieftain

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    Votes for Kagoshima (Triple Stack
    226-KGL-1: What shall we build after the University?

    d) Bank


    Scientific Influence Votes: Triple Stack and Single Stack
    226-S-1: What shall we research?

    Chemistry

    226-S-2: Catherine is number two in tech, should we offer her a declaration of friendship?
    Yes


    226-S-3: Adjust Policy?
    Yes

    226-S-4: Don't accept DoFs from anyone who has denounced or been denounced by someone we already have a DoF with?
    Yes, don't accept

    226-S-5: Accept DoFs from Arabia?
    No

    226-S-6: Accept DoFs from Mongolia
    No

    226-S-7: Accept DoFs from Russia
    Yes

    226-S-8: Accept DoFs from nations yet unmet? (everyone except those mentioned)
    No

    226-S-9: Don't accept DoFs from Germany?
    No

    226-S-10: Don't accept DoFs from America?
    When hell freezes over

    Military Influence Votes:
    226-M-1: What city shall Ishiyumi Kimyona be given to?

    Tokyo
     

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