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China and Japan

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Skwink, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    Why is the CCP not legit? There was a civil war, and they defeated the CNP. It would be like saying Parliament in the ECW not the rightful government even though they won the civil war.

    You win the civil war, you are the rightful government.
     
  2. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    Because the US didn't support them. USA #1
     
  3. Aleenik

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    Sorry, but LMAO.

    Wait, where you being serious? The following point alone makes me highly doubt what you say. If North Korea had a better education system than the USA, one might think the people would have had a massive revolution long ago to get rid of their horrible government once they found out how life is so much better in many other places.
     
  4. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    Horrible government is in the eye of the citizen is it not? You could say the same about alot of places now couldn't you? Education system a revolution does not make. We have a good education system here for the most part yet we have done little to curve corruption in our own government.
     
  5. Arakhor

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    Whether or not they actually have a better education system, you're ignoring the entire aspect of propaganda and sheltered citizenry. The Chinese government (for instance) still censors searches for democracy, the Dalai Lama or Tienanmen Square.
     
  6. Aleenik

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    Of course education regarding the outside world alone would not necessarily make the people revolt, but it would make them more likely I would assume. North Korean people and North Korea itself are wayyyyyyyyyy worse off than us though, even though we, like many countries, have corruption.
     
  7. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    Protecting citizens from outside perversions for the betterment of society. It's not different than any religious group really.
     
  8. Cheetah

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    The job of the USA is to protect freedom? :rolleyes: If so, you are doing a remarkably half-hearted job.

    Please tell me when the mass murders commited by dictators become genocide.

    The only three problems that anyone who knows about North Korea has with invading North Korea is:
    1. China won't like it and might even intervene. Not that China likes North Korea, but a strong US ally on their border is not helpful for them, and having something to put pressure on the US during international dealings is helpful.
    2. South Korea fears the day they will need to pay to fix up North Korea. If you think West Germany had a bad time with East Germany, you won't believe how bad it will be with Korea.
    3. North Korea may cause damage to northern parts of South Korea, and any modern democracy is loath to bring its mainland and its citisens into a war zone.

    If we can handle those 3, I'm all for taking out the North Korean government as fast as the laws of physics allows.

    This is the only thing Domination3000 has said in this thread that I can wholeheartedly agree with.

    This is ridiculous. There is no way that you - or the CIA for that matter - can know the literacy rate of North Korea. Though I don't doubt that if you don't count with the hundreds of thousands in concentration camps you do get a decent amount who can read.

    Health care may be "free" and accessible, but it is severely limited because they don't have enough equipment.

    And if the US would start killing off or putting all difficult people in concentration camps I'm sure the US education system would improve statistically as well.

    The war was never over however... The straight of Formosa simply ceased any continued armed conflict - for the time being.
     
  9. Akka

    Akka Moody old mage.

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    Am I the only one who immediately thought about the Pratchett's book Jingo when seeing two powers disputing a tiny volcano in the middle of the sea ?
     
  10. Cheetah

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    Corruption is far worse in North Korea - setting up a black market economy is the only way people have been able to survive for the last 20 years. That's why there was almost a revolution happening recently when the government devalued the money to root out the black market.

    Since when was religion a good thing? :crazyeye:

    You're just pulling our leg. :)
     
  11. Cheetah

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    Fiction? I was immediately reminded of the reality of human beings... :p
     
  12. Luckymoose

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    How is that propaganda treating you?
     
  13. Aleenik

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    How's North Korean Propaganda treating you? North Korea has a better education system than the US= LOL.

    I would like some proof that North Korea has a better education system than the US. I doubt you'll find it.
     
  14. Luckymoose

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    Maybe you should do some research? Read a book and get back to me. MSNBC isn't the answer to all life's questions. :p
     
  15. Ajidica

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    I can't tell how much you are trolling. I know you know alot about Asia, so I value your opinion on asia, but this conflicts too much with my understanding of DPRK.
     
  16. Skwink

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    Ever heard of WWII?:rolleyes:
     
  17. Aleenik

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    I think he's saying something different than what you think he's saying, but I could be wrong. I think he's saying that there are dictators who kill people, but when will the poster he was replying to consider those genocide? He was saying that in response to a post by another poster.
     
  18. Aleenik

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    I don't go to MSNBC for news. I go to CNN and France 24 mostly. I go to France 24 the most though.


    Still, I'd like a link to evidence that North Korea has a better education system than the US. I highly doubt North Korea has a better education system than the US. Telling me to read books and that MSNBC isn't the answer to all life's questions isn't the response I was looking for.
     
  19. Azale

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    Jiang lost, just like Cornwallis and Nicholas II before him. Taiwan was not a bad consolation prize.

    You have the approach of an internet tough guy. It is really obnoxious. I hope, for your sake, this doesn't carry over into real life interactions with people.

    Yea, because Obama has been a real dove in foreign policy...

    Luckysan knows a fair amount on Japan, but he's not some Asia wiz. I'm pretty sure he be trollin'
     
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    China has a good thing going, and they know not to mess up. A decade from now, who knows? The worlds the limit.
     

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