China's Threat Continues to Grow

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China's Threat Continues to Grow

Col. Stanislav Lunev
Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2002

While we've been busy with corporate scandals at home and with the war on terrorism internationally, our so-called "friends" in Red China have dramatically increased their policy of hostility toward the U.S. and our real friends and allies.

Using China's membership in the "wide anti-terrorist Coalition," Chinese communists are aggressively repressing opposition movements in Tibet and other minority areas, whose drive for independence was simply betrayed by Western leaders.

China's leaders are engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and are supplying arms and related technologies to rogue nations, including the countries President Bush has called an "axis of evil." Talks with Chinese officials aimed at getting Beijing's cooperation in stopping the weapons sales have not produced any results. China's government had promised to adopt new export controls, but refused to implement new rules.

The State Department, for instance, identified the eight Chinese companies and two individuals it punished with economic sanctions last week for selling arms to Iran. The companies include several Chinese firms that have been sanctioned in the past for selling arms and related equipment to rogue states, an indication that U.S. efforts to deter China's state-run companies from dealing with countries that sponsor terrorism are not working.

Moreover, Chinese communists have dramatically increased their military buildup and war preparations. Ignored by official Washington, this buildup is directed against the U.S. and our friends and allies in Asia and on the Pacific Rim.

Currently Beijing spends $65 billion a year on defense, the largest military budget in Asia and the second- largest in the world,behind the U.S. This money is going for the last stage of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization program, designed by Chinese Communists for expending their influence in the Asian-Pacific region and for challenging American interests.

According to a recent Department of Defense special report, China's military training exercises increasingly focus on the U.S. as an adversary. Beijing is developing high-technology weapons, including laser and radio-frequency bombs, to improve its capabilities to carry out warfare against the U.S. and is using strategic deception operations to fool the world about Red China's real plans and intentions.

Currently, the PLA is busily replacing its arsenal of old liquid-fueled long-range ballistic missiles, which are targeted at the U.S. and capable of delivering nuclear warheads to San Diego and other West Coast targets, with the country's new solid-fueled ICBMs.

These missiles will be deployed in few years and will have a strike distance that includes most of the U.S.

As NewsMax.com previously reported, the PLA continues its buildup of short-range ballistic missiles in Fujian Province, opposite Taiwan. The missiles currently number 350 and are increasing at a rate of 50 a year.

Chinese communists have also purchased Kilo-class submarines, Sovremenny-class destroyers and other advanced weapons from Russia and other former Soviet states especially to intimidate or actually attack Taiwan, a fact that directly contradicts Beijing's declared preference for resolving differences over Taiwan through peaceful means.

However, free and democratic Taiwan is not the only U.S. ally threatened by China's military aspirations. For instance, the Singapore press recently reported that Beijing is building up its strength in the South China Sea, where China, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam all claim title to parts of the Spratly Islands.

As the press reported, Beijing's military aggressiveness in the South China Sea, where communists deployed 20 to 24 navy vessels, has stirred apprehensions in Southeast Asia about Red China's real intentions.

Under these circumstances, Washington needs to take seriously the clear and present danger posed by Red China's growing militarism, which in the near future could be much more serious than the current obvious threats to U.S. strategic interests and to the American people.
 
I'm more worried about their crappy toxic exports reaching the U.S. atm, personally.
 
Thats the fault of the american politicans for letting the USA borrow from china and for its favoritable trade policies!
 
Thats the fault of the american politicans for letting the USA borrow from china and for its favoritable trade policies!

partially. We need to cut dependency on Chinese goods, now.
 
China Threatens to Destroy the US Economy

The Chinese government has begun a concerted campaign of economic threats against the United States, hinting that it may liquidate its vast holding of US treasuries if Washington imposes trade sanctions to force a yuan revaluation.

Two officials at leading Communist Party bodies have given interviews in recent days warning - for the first time - that Beijing may use its $1.33 trillion (�658bn) of foreign reserves as a political weapon to counter pressure from the US Congress. Shifts in Chinese policy are often announced through key think tanks and academies.

Described as China's "nuclear option" in the state media, such action could trigger a dollar crash at a time when the US currency is already breaking down through historic support levels.
 
partially. We need to cut dependency on Chinese goods, now.

And Middle East oil. And not just the US but her allies like my country Australia and UK and Europe etc...

The west needs to wake up and realize that unless we do something we are going to be trouble. The time to act is NOW! :rolleyes:
 
I stopped reading when I got to "Aug. 6, 2002," should I have gone further?
 
Described as China's "nuclear option" in the state media, such action could trigger a dollar crash at a time when the US currency is already breaking down through historic support levels.
I approve of the terminology, but I think "mutually assured destruction" is more apt. The whole world would be adversely affected by an economic meltdown in the United States, and China would probably be harder hit by it than any other nation.

China's just having it's bankers rattle the sabers because their generals don't have the same clout.:lol:
 
China's Threat Continues to Grow

Col. Stanislav Lunev
Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2002

While we've been busy with corporate scandals at home and with the war on terrorism internationally, our so-called "friends" in Red China have dramatically increased their policy of hostility toward the U.S. and our real friends and allies.

What makes you so sure everyone's forgotten about China? Not that China is really "red" for that matter, anymore.

Using China's membership in the "wide anti-terrorist Coalition," Chinese communists are aggressively repressing opposition movements in Tibet and other minority areas, whose drive for independence was simply betrayed by Western leaders
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This is nothing new, China's been doing this for years.

China's leaders are engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and are supplying arms and related technologies to rogue nations, including the countries President Bush has called an "axis of evil." Talks with Chinese officials aimed at getting Beijing's cooperation in stopping the weapons sales have not produced any results. China's government had promised to adopt new export controls, but refused to implement new rules.

Such as? As I recall, China tried to bring North Korea to the 5-Nation talks about its nuclear program. Which is over, now, just so you know.

The State Department, for instance, identified the eight Chinese companies and two individuals it punished with economic sanctions last week for selling arms to Iran. The companies include several Chinese firms that have been sanctioned in the past for selling arms and related equipment to rogue states, an indication that U.S. efforts to deter China's state-run companies from dealing with countries that sponsor terrorism are not working.

Russia does this, too.

Moreover, Chinese communists have dramatically increased their military buildup and war preparations. Ignored by official Washington, this buildup is directed against the U.S. and our friends and allies in Asia and on the Pacific Rim.

What on Earth could the Chinese do to the United States? Or really any nation, for that matter? They're great speculation as to whether they could manage to invade Formosa, I would rule out any amhpibious operation in Japan, or the Phillippines, or really anywhere, as quite simply impossible.

Currently Beijing spends $65 billion a year on defense, the largest military budget in Asia and the second- largest in the world,behind the U.S. This money is going for the last stage of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization program, designed by Chinese Communists for expending their influence in the Asian-Pacific region and for challenging American interests.

That's their right as a soverign nation.

According to a recent Department of Defense special report, China's military training exercises increasingly focus on the U.S. as an adversary.

Considering that nearly every potential war they could fight would involve combat with American equipment, that makes sense. We've been training against Soviet equipment for years, most of which the Chinese use modifed versions of.

Beijing is developing high-technology weapons, including laser and radio-frequency bombs, to improve its capabilities to carry out warfare against the U.S. and is using strategic deception operations to fool the world about Red China's real plans and intentions.

That's called modernization. Again, its their right to update their weapons. To suggest that simply because they are developing laser-guided weaponry its therefore specifically designed to engage American targets isn't just absurd, it's sensationalist.

Currently, the PLA is busily replacing its arsenal of old liquid-fueled long-range ballistic missiles, which are targeted at the U.S. and capable of delivering nuclear warheads to San Diego and other West Coast targets, with the country's new solid-fueled ICBMs.

You know, Mutually Assured Destruction has prevented more wars than it's caused. Russia has missiles that range to the United States, too. China isn't crazy, they know they have a lot more to lose that we do, which is quite a bit, so I'm not worried about a Chinese ICBM.

These missiles will be deployed in few years and will have a strike distance that includes most of the U.S.

The Chinese have had the Donfeng-5, an ICBM with a range of about 6500 miles, since 1981. That's approximately the distance from Shanghai to Los Angeles. Again, nothing new here.

As NewsMax.com previously reported, the PLA continues its buildup of short-range ballistic missiles in Fujian Province, opposite Taiwan. The missiles currently number 350 and are increasing at a rate of 50 a year.

So?

Chinese communists have also purchased Kilo-class submarines, Sovremenny-class destroyers and other advanced weapons from Russia and other former Soviet states especially to intimidate or actually attack Taiwan, a fact that directly contradicts Beijing's declared preference for resolving differences over Taiwan through peaceful means.

How is such a military buildup indicative of agression against a single nation?

As for the weapons in question, the PLAN has four, count 'em, four, Sovremenneys, and twelve Kilos. The United States has fifty, that's 50, Arleigh Burke Destroyers, and forty-nine (49) Los Angeles Submarines.

I'm not worried.

However, free and democratic Taiwan is not the only U.S. ally threatened by China's military aspirations. For instance, the Singapore press recently reported that Beijing is building up its strength in the South China Sea, where China, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam all claim title to parts of the Spratly Islands.


As the press reported, Beijing's military aggressiveness in the South China Sea, where communists deployed 20 to 24 navy vessels, has stirred apprehensions in Southeast Asia about Red China's real intentions.

So there are Chinese in the South China Sea, and there are oil-rich islands in the South China Sea. That means that one is there because of the other, and that they're just itching to take them? The reasoning behind that is about the same as the reasoning behind the idea that just because there's a Black man and a White woman in a room together, that the Black man wants to, and will, sooner or later, rape her.

In other words, there's no basis for the worrying. Just prejudice and sensationalism.

Under these circumstances, Washington needs to take seriously the clear and present danger posed by Red China's growing militarism, which in the near future could be much more serious than the current obvious threats to U.S. strategic interests and to the American people.

And what do you suggest we do, then?
 
partially. We need to cut dependency on Chinese goods, now.
Thank Chinese imports for your continued world-class standard of living. Strategically, there is wisdom in "rolling back"--in appropriate Wal-Mart parlance--some of the imports from China, but post-industrial nations like our own see a huge benefit from cheap imports.
 
China's Threat Continues to Grow

Col. Stanislav Lunev
Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2002

While we've been busy with corporate scandals at home and with the war on terrorism internationally, our so-called "friends" in Red China have dramatically increased their policy of hostility toward the U.S. and our real friends and allies.

Using China's membership in the "wide anti-terrorist Coalition," Chinese communists are aggressively repressing opposition movements in Tibet and other minority areas, whose drive for independence was simply betrayed by Western leaders.

China's leaders are engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and are supplying arms and related technologies to rogue nations, including the countries President Bush has called an "axis of evil." Talks with Chinese officials aimed at getting Beijing's cooperation in stopping the weapons sales have not produced any results. China's government had promised to adopt new export controls, but refused to implement new rules.

The State Department, for instance, identified the eight Chinese companies and two individuals it punished with economic sanctions last week for selling arms to Iran. The companies include several Chinese firms that have been sanctioned in the past for selling arms and related equipment to rogue states, an indication that U.S. efforts to deter China's state-run companies from dealing with countries that sponsor terrorism are not working.

Moreover, Chinese communists have dramatically increased their military buildup and war preparations. Ignored by official Washington, this buildup is directed against the U.S. and our friends and allies in Asia and on the Pacific Rim.

Currently Beijing spends $65 billion a year on defense, the largest military budget in Asia and the second- largest in the world,behind the U.S. This money is going for the last stage of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization program, designed by Chinese Communists for expending their influence in the Asian-Pacific region and for challenging American interests.

According to a recent Department of Defense special report, China's military training exercises increasingly focus on the U.S. as an adversary. Beijing is developing high-technology weapons, including laser and radio-frequency bombs, to improve its capabilities to carry out warfare against the U.S. and is using strategic deception operations to fool the world about Red China's real plans and intentions.

Currently, the PLA is busily replacing its arsenal of old liquid-fueled long-range ballistic missiles, which are targeted at the U.S. and capable of delivering nuclear warheads to San Diego and other West Coast targets, with the country's new solid-fueled ICBMs.

These missiles will be deployed in few years and will have a strike distance that includes most of the U.S.

As NewsMax.com previously reported, the PLA continues its buildup of short-range ballistic missiles in Fujian Province, opposite Taiwan. The missiles currently number 350 and are increasing at a rate of 50 a year.

Chinese communists have also purchased Kilo-class submarines, Sovremenny-class destroyers and other advanced weapons from Russia and other former Soviet states especially to intimidate or actually attack Taiwan, a fact that directly contradicts Beijing's declared preference for resolving differences over Taiwan through peaceful means.

However, free and democratic Taiwan is not the only U.S. ally threatened by China's military aspirations. For instance, the Singapore press recently reported that Beijing is building up its strength in the South China Sea, where China, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam all claim title to parts of the Spratly Islands.

As the press reported, Beijing's military aggressiveness in the South China Sea, where communists deployed 20 to 24 navy vessels, has stirred apprehensions in Southeast Asia about Red China's real intentions.

Under these circumstances, Washington needs to take seriously the clear and present danger posed by Red China's growing militarism, which in the near future could be much more serious than the current obvious threats to U.S. strategic interests and to the American people.

Whats with your China fetish, lol
 
Described as China's "nuclear option" in the state media, such action could trigger a dollar crash at a time when the US currency is already breaking down through historic support levels.
I responded to this quote once before, so please forgive my revisiting it.

Everyone here understands that China is currently propping up the value of the dollar, don't they? Does anyone think they do it out benevolence?

The LAST thing the Chinese want to see is a collapse of the US dollar. They need for us to be able to afford lots and lots and LOTS of Chinese import. That's harder to do with a weaker dollar.
 
Double standards again. You are worried about China militerising and invading countries even though you are doing just that.

have you really come to expect anything else from the usa, they say theyre against the military dictatorship in burma, but support the military dictatorship in pakistan, they go after islamic fundamentalists my invading one of the most progressive moderate countrys in the middle east, while ignoring saudi arabia
 
I stopped reading after he called it "Red" China, and referred to them as communists. So yeh....and I agree with Cheezy.
 
have you really come to expect anything else from the usa, they say theyre against the military dictatorship in burma, but support the military dictatorship in pakistan, they go after islamic fundamentalists my invading one of the most progressive moderate countrys in the middle east, while ignoring saudi arabia

You'll notice they ramp up the rhetoric and threats against any country that starts getting ideas about selling their oil in Euros instead of US dollars. Saddam's Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, it's surely no coincidence that all these countries get labelled WMD producers, terrorist supporters, destabling influences etc as soon as the USA get wind of an oil producer not wanting to prop up their petro-currency :lol:

If the Saudis ever had that idea I guarantee they'd be on the s**t list pretty quick too!
 
What puzzles me is how the news media supposedly knows all these top secret plans and conspiracies that other countries have to take down the US and or other countries.
You'd think they would keep it secret so others can not prepare.

Lots of these "___ country is plotting against ____ country and _____ is their exact plan!" stories reek a foul smell of BS
 
Thank Chinese imports for your continued world-class standard of living. Strategically, there is wisdom in "rolling back"--in appropriate Wal-Mart parlance--some of the imports from China, but post-industrial nations like our own see a huge benefit from cheap imports.

If people really wanted to aid their country's economy struggle with China, they'd refuse to purchase luxury goods (of any stripe) from China and only purchase goods which add utility to one's life.

Only purchase goods which are tools or investments, and can be used to locally generate revenue or resources.
 
China's Threat Continues to Grow

Col. Stanislav Lunev
Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2002

While we've been busy with corporate scandals at home and with the war on terrorism internationally, our so-called "friends" in Red China have dramatically increased their policy of hostility toward the U.S. and our real friends and allies.

Using China's membership in the "wide anti-terrorist Coalition," Chinese communists are aggressively repressing opposition movements in Tibet and other minority areas, whose drive for independence was simply betrayed by Western leaders.

China's leaders are engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and are supplying arms and related technologies to rogue nations, including the countries President Bush has called an "axis of evil." Talks with Chinese officials aimed at getting Beijing's cooperation in stopping the weapons sales have not produced any results. China's government had promised to adopt new export controls, but refused to implement new rules.

The State Department, for instance, identified the eight Chinese companies and two individuals it punished with economic sanctions last week for selling arms to Iran. The companies include several Chinese firms that have been sanctioned in the past for selling arms and related equipment to rogue states, an indication that U.S. efforts to deter China's state-run companies from dealing with countries that sponsor terrorism are not working.

Moreover, Chinese communists have dramatically increased their military buildup and war preparations. Ignored by official Washington, this buildup is directed against the U.S. and our friends and allies in Asia and on the Pacific Rim.

Currently Beijing spends $65 billion a year on defense, the largest military budget in Asia and the second- largest in the world,behind the U.S. This money is going for the last stage of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization program, designed by Chinese Communists for expending their influence in the Asian-Pacific region and for challenging American interests.

According to a recent Department of Defense special report, China's military training exercises increasingly focus on the U.S. as an adversary. Beijing is developing high-technology weapons, including laser and radio-frequency bombs, to improve its capabilities to carry out warfare against the U.S. and is using strategic deception operations to fool the world about Red China's real plans and intentions.

Currently, the PLA is busily replacing its arsenal of old liquid-fueled long-range ballistic missiles, which are targeted at the U.S. and capable of delivering nuclear warheads to San Diego and other West Coast targets, with the country's new solid-fueled ICBMs.

These missiles will be deployed in few years and will have a strike distance that includes most of the U.S.

As NewsMax.com previously reported, the PLA continues its buildup of short-range ballistic missiles in Fujian Province, opposite Taiwan. The missiles currently number 350 and are increasing at a rate of 50 a year.

Chinese communists have also purchased Kilo-class submarines, Sovremenny-class destroyers and other advanced weapons from Russia and other former Soviet states especially to intimidate or actually attack Taiwan, a fact that directly contradicts Beijing's declared preference for resolving differences over Taiwan through peaceful means.

However, free and democratic Taiwan is not the only U.S. ally threatened by China's military aspirations. For instance, the Singapore press recently reported that Beijing is building up its strength in the South China Sea, where China, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam all claim title to parts of the Spratly Islands.

As the press reported, Beijing's military aggressiveness in the South China Sea, where communists deployed 20 to 24 navy vessels, has stirred apprehensions in Southeast Asia about Red China's real intentions.

Under these circumstances, Washington needs to take seriously the clear and present danger posed by Red China's growing militarism, which in the near future could be much more serious than the current obvious threats to U.S. strategic interests and to the American people.
A load of bollocks, from start to finish, including everything in between. The whole thing is riddled with dated, inaccurate, ideologically charged, fear stirring terminology. Reading this was a complete waste of time. And that's putting it politely. :)
 
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