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Chinese Internet Users Lose Access to WeChat
BY LIZA LIN

Chinese censors are crippling access to the country’s do-everything app for some users as part of a campaign to quell discussion of a rare protest in Beijing, an escalation in the Communist Party’s drive to cleanse the country’s internet of even the whiff of dissent.

The crackdown came after two banners condemning Chinese leader Xi Jinping were hung from a busy highway bridge in the Chinese capital Thursday—a rare act of defiance in the seat of Communist Party power that captivated the country’s social-media users. Hours after images of the banners began to circulate online, many users reported losing access to WeChat, a super app that has become virtually indispensable for daily life in China.
Hundreds of complaints posted in a customer-service forum run by WeChat’s owner, Tencent Holdings Ltd., indicated the suspensions were imposed after users posted or reposted images of the protest. Some users offered desperate, if somewhat circumspect, apologies. One user referred to “an incident this afternoon,” and apologized for engaging in damaging behavior. “Please, I have been using this account for 10 years, with many messages and pictures—very precious to me,” the user wrote.
Some curious internet users asked to see the images many were alluding to. “You’d be better off knowing nothing about them,” one user responded.

By Friday evening, Tencent’s customer-services forum on Weibo, a Twitter-like social-media platform, was no longer accessible. Many users turned to a general forum run by Tencent to continue their petitions.
Neither Tencent nor Beijing’s Public Security bureau responded to requests for comment. Thursday’s protest, which depicted Mr. Xi as a “traitorous dictator,” was small but still shocking in a country where the space for dissent has shrunk almost to zero in recent years. The act of defiance was especially noteworthy for occurring in Beijing, the country’s most tightly managed city, just days before a pivotal Communist Party gathering where Mr. Xi is all but certain
to claim a norm-breaking third term as leader. Even before Thursday’s incident, Chinese authorities tightened their grip around online discourse to an unusual degree. An examination by The Wall Street Journal found the country’s most popular social-media platforms had been scrubbed of independent or negative content concerning Mr. Xi and many of the country’s other top officials, making it essentially impossible to gauge public opinion of the party’s leadership.

Authorities’ response to the protest online was swift and broad. Eric Liu, a former social- media censor in China who now works as an analyst with the censorship-focused website China Digital Times, said he wasn’t aware of such a large-scale locking of WeChat accounts in recent years. For a WeChat user, the effect of losing access to the app can be significant. Hundreds of millions of Chinese use the app not just to keep in touch with family and friends but to hail taxis, buy train tickets, pay for groceries and manage their investments. One Beijing-based user said he had shared a photo of the banners hanging off Beijing’s Sitong Bridge beneath a column of black smoke in a WeChat group of about 70 people just after 1 p.m. He offered no comment, he said, and neither did other users, though some responded with emojis. Around 5 p.m., the user said, he received a notice from WeChat saying that his account had been restricted because he violated Chinese law and that the restriction wouldn’t be lifted. He said he was able to access the app’s digital-payments feature, but was cut off from all of its social functions.

“I was shocked when they told me my account was permanently suspended,” he said.
 
Chinese Internet Users Lose Access to WeChat
BY LIZA LIN

Chinese censors are crippling access to the country’s do-everything app for some users as part of a campaign to quell discussion of a rare protest in Beijing, an escalation in the Communist Party’s drive to cleanse the country’s internet of even the whiff of dissent.

The crackdown came after two banners condemning Chinese leader Xi Jinping were hung from a busy highway bridge in the Chinese capital Thursday—a rare act of defiance in the seat of Communist Party power that captivated the country’s social-media users. Hours after images of the banners began to circulate online, many users reported losing access to WeChat, a super app that has become virtually indispensable for daily life in China.
Hundreds of complaints posted in a customer-service forum run by WeChat’s owner, Tencent Holdings Ltd., indicated the suspensions were imposed after users posted or reposted images of the protest. Some users offered desperate, if somewhat circumspect, apologies. One user referred to “an incident this afternoon,” and apologized for engaging in damaging behavior. “Please, I have been using this account for 10 years, with many messages and pictures—very precious to me,” the user wrote.
Some curious internet users asked to see the images many were alluding to. “You’d be better off knowing nothing about them,” one user responded.

By Friday evening, Tencent’s customer-services forum on Weibo, a Twitter-like social-media platform, was no longer accessible. Many users turned to a general forum run by Tencent to continue their petitions.
Neither Tencent nor Beijing’s Public Security bureau responded to requests for comment. Thursday’s protest, which depicted Mr. Xi as a “traitorous dictator,” was small but still shocking in a country where the space for dissent has shrunk almost to zero in recent years. The act of defiance was especially noteworthy for occurring in Beijing, the country’s most tightly managed city, just days before a pivotal Communist Party gathering where Mr. Xi is all but certain
to claim a norm-breaking third term as leader. Even before Thursday’s incident, Chinese authorities tightened their grip around online discourse to an unusual degree. An examination by The Wall Street Journal found the country’s most popular social-media platforms had been scrubbed of independent or negative content concerning Mr. Xi and many of the country’s other top officials, making it essentially impossible to gauge public opinion of the party’s leadership.

Authorities’ response to the protest online was swift and broad. Eric Liu, a former social- media censor in China who now works as an analyst with the censorship-focused website China Digital Times, said he wasn’t aware of such a large-scale locking of WeChat accounts in recent years. For a WeChat user, the effect of losing access to the app can be significant. Hundreds of millions of Chinese use the app not just to keep in touch with family and friends but to hail taxis, buy train tickets, pay for groceries and manage their investments. One Beijing-based user said he had shared a photo of the banners hanging off Beijing’s Sitong Bridge beneath a column of black smoke in a WeChat group of about 70 people just after 1 p.m. He offered no comment, he said, and neither did other users, though some responded with emojis. Around 5 p.m., the user said, he received a notice from WeChat saying that his account had been restricted because he violated Chinese law and that the restriction wouldn’t be lifted. He said he was able to access the app’s digital-payments feature, but was cut off from all of its social functions.

“I was shocked when they told me my account was permanently suspended,” he said.
Everyone so needs to understand the importance of open communication standards. I have been wondering, are you allowed to use email and PGP in China?
 
Everyone so needs to understand the importance of open communication standards. I have been wondering, are you allowed to use email and PGP in China?
Email certainly, about 250 million users.
 
Everyone so needs to understand the importance of open communication standards. I have been wondering, are you allowed to use email and PGP in China?
One of my friends uses email and zoom but only through a vpn but those can be crimped by the government. Certainly WeChat is not safe if you are talking smack about the CCP. My friend tells me that she participates in chat groups of several hundreds to several thousands that talk against the rules and get shut down regularly only to pop up again under a new name or group.
 
The question was really about PGP. If you are transferring encrypted blocks of characters I would guess you would get put on some unpleasant lists. Is the actual use of open source end to end encryption explicitly illegal?
 
PGP?
 
OpenPGP is an asymmetric encryption encryption standard that allows messages to be encrypted and signed such that only the intended recipient can read it and only the sender could have sent it. It was released 31 years ago, and while there were some theoretical issues with the earlier implementations the current versions are considered unbreakable.

There are multiple open source implementations, of which Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) is perhaps the most famous and GPG perhaps the most commonly used. There was a thing quite a few years ago when some people would put their PGP public key in their signature, which allowed one to send them private messages, but I guess not in your field.
 
Thanks; I do not know if that is used in China. How does one add that to one's digital efforts?
 
Thanks; I do not know if that is used in China. How does one add that to one's digital efforts?
There are many many ways. Most email clients have a plug in, I have used it in thunderbird and it looks like there are four choices for outlook. The safest way it to keep your key, along with an executable like gpg4usb on a password protected USB stick (and keep a backup of the seed phrase somewhere safe). I just use the command line version of GPG that I think came with my OS.
 
There are many many ways. Most email clients have a plug in, I have used it in thunderbird and it looks like there are four choices for outlook. The safest way it to keep your key, along with an executable like gpg4usb on a password protected USB stick (and keep a backup of the seed phrase somewhere safe). I just use the command line version of GPG that I think came with my OS.
Thanks, I will see if my Chinese friends know about it or use it. Does it work with phones?
 
Thanks, I will see if my Chinese friends know about it or use it. Does it work with phones?
Google tells me there are implementations for the major platforms, so it is certainly possible. However I clicked a few and they do not lead with "Open Source". If you want to trust the software for anything that matters you have to be able to see the code. Even if you can read it, knowing that lots of people can see it gives you the best protection against state level surveillance. I am sure I do not need to tell your friend anything about this, but I cannot claim to know that there is a secure implementation for any non-free system.
 
One of my friends uses email and zoom but only through a vpn but those can be crimped by the government. Certainly WeChat is not safe if you are talking smack about the CCP. My friend tells me that she participates in chat groups of several hundreds to several thousands that talk against the rules and get shut down regularly only to pop up again under a new name or group.
I remember the night I was chatting and talked some smack about the CCP as if it was far away with an ex-expat, he felt it important to point out this was exactly the sort of conversation that was only possible because of the US military. In that they'd come for Americans talking smack about them to other Americans the second they could.

Such brittle and violent tiny pooh-peens. If he's not mistaken, of course.
 
I remember the night I was chatting and talked some smack about the CCP as if it was far away with an ex-expat, he felt it important to point out this was exactly the sort of conversation that was only possible because of the US military. In that they'd come for Americans talking smack about them to other Americans the second they could.

Such brittle and violent tiny pooh-peens. If he's not mistaken, of course.
Imagine the nightmare of trying to capture American cities from American civilians.
 
Especially if what you're working with is an acorn stuck to a pumpkin.

They'd just level them. Something something racist about the Han locust, I'm sure(actually, that's yesterday's war Russia seems to be fighting. The CCP seems all in with drones and facial recognition).

Foreigners that live in the “expat bubble” are generally insufferable and stupid. It applies here, probably there too.
Maybe! It's not like the ones I know didn't get married though. The women slowly talk more over the years of distance. What s patriarchal society structure in this instance. Like much more than I was expecting.
 
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Like I said, maybe! Starting to get numbers that look like small data instead of an anecdote, tho.

My friends learned to speak Chinese. They weren't monolingual to begin with. That'd be me, very far from the sea.
 
It’s hard to tell in CCPland because of the state-endorsed propagandists that upload to YouTube for which they have some kind of mysterious access… do whites there get some kind of special internet?

I have the same internet as the Japanese do, so pictures are all 320x240 and the general design philosophy is: if there’s space left over, put some more text in there.
 
That I can answer, yes, definitively they do. Depending on what the white is saying.

There isn't any porn, that's illegal. Unless the girls are white(I don't think black would be different, but you won't see it see it). I think that about sums that sentiment up as neatly as I know how.
 
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