Chinese students across America are terrorizing University campus

[general_kill]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/education/29student.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

It's a long article here's some quotes:

LOS ANGELES — When the time came for the smiling Tibetan monk at the front of the University of Southern California lecture hall to answer questions, the Chinese students who packed the audience for the talk last Tuesday had plenty to lob at their guest:
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Ben Huang challenging a Tibetan monk last Tuesday.
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Min Zhu, center, was removed from an event with a monk at the University of Southern California after a bottle was thrown.

If Tibet was not part of China, why had the Chinese emperor been the one to give the Dalai Lama his title? How did the tenets of Buddhism jibe with the “slavery system” in Tibet before China’s modernization efforts? What about the Dalai Lama’s connection to Hitler?

As the monk tried to rebut the students, they grew more hostile. They brandished photographs and statistics to support their claims. “Stop lying! Stop lying!” one young man said. A plastic bottle of water hit the wall behind the monk, and campus police officers hustled the person who threw it out of the room.

At Duke, pro-China students surrounded and drowned out a pro-Tibet vigil; a Chinese freshman who tried to mediate received death threats, and her family was forced into hiding.

The student anger, stoked through e-mail messages sent to large campus mailing lists, stems not so much from satisfaction with the Chinese government but from shock at the portrayal of its actions, as well as frustration over the West’s long-standing love affair with Tibet — a love these students see as willfully blind.

A Tibetan student who declined to be identified for fear of harassment said he decided not to attend a vigil for Tibet on his campus, which he also did not want identified because there are so few Tibetans there. “It’s not that I didn’t want to, I really did want to go — it’s our cause,” he said. “At the same time, I have to consider that my family’s back there, and I’m going back there in May.”

Another factor fueling the zeal of many Chinese demonstrators could be that they, too, intend to return home; the Chinese government is widely believed to be monitoring large e-mail lists.

Attacking innocent and peaceful monks with bottles? Making death threats? TERRORIZING America's finest academic institutions? RELAYING PROPAGANDA for the Chinese government?

It's time to throw these thugs and goons behind bars and teach them a lesson. These Chinese spies are nothing but trouble and we ought to stop all trade with China and kick these SPIES out of this country. Why are we even doing business with an authoritarian regime in the first place? They belong in the axis of evil and we need to cut off all diplomatic relations with them. You can't talk to these savages.

Who's with me?

P.S., Dida, keep the nuking thing between you and me, we don't want to scare people away with our final solution to our Communist infestation.

 

[Esckey]

They're not spies or commies. They're just morons and idiots, that should be charged with what ever laws they may of broken. I believe throwing that bottle could be assault(or attempted assult if thats in) and any time they surround any pro tibet group could be rioting(or incite riot)

 

[Bigfoot3814]

I read that article in this morning's NY times. I think the students are just angry at the west's one sided view of the Tibet conflict. No, that doesn't justify thier violent and criminal actions, but they are right. No one has taken the time to look at both sides of the story.

 

[Leonel]

Oh I SEE HOW IT IS NOW! When a right winger says it's terrorism, he's ridiculed! But when a left winger says it's terrorism, it's a call to arms to defend freedom, truth and the American way!

 

[Ramius75]

They're not spies or commies. They're just morons and idiots, that should be charged with what ever laws they may of broken. I believe throwing that bottle could be assault(or attempted assult if thats in) and any time they surround any pro tibet group could be rioting(or incite riot)

I read that article in this morning's NY times. I think the students are just angry at the west's one sided view of the Tibet conflict. No, that doesn't justify thier violent and criminal actions, but they are right. No one has taken the time to look at both sides of the story.

i agree with both of them here... but i have to say is that the students had the obligation to study hard and well. they should leave politics to others...

Its not worth getting their asses kick out from school also...

 

[bhsup]

Take it out of my country. Bloody inconsiderate house guests. I swear, if they want to tear each other apart, do it over there. Don't be bringing their problems into our country, we have enough issues of our own.

 

[Dann]

I agree with VRWCAgent. (the end must be near! ) It's one thing to voice your protestations, but harassment and assault is already crossing the line. Expel and deport those morons! They're giving their countrymen a bad image.

 

[QuoVadisNation]

They're only expressing their individuality.

I say, if the kids are stupid enough to risk suspension or even expulsion, I say let em'

 

[alex994]

*sigh* What do you expect really? It's one thing to express their views, it's another to use violence or break the laws for them. This, aelf, is stooping to the levels of the Pro-Tibetan protesters back in London and Paris, not the peaceful counter-protests. This makes us look bad, not those protests.

 

[Godwynn]

The Chinese students here seem to be content and well behaved...

 

[amadeus]

The Chinese students here seem to be content and well behaved...

Likewise; I have few bad things to say about them. Contrast this with the constant black and white sea of drunken morons I encounter on a regular basis.

 

[Xenocrates]

As the monk tried to rebut the students, they grew more hostile. They brandished photographs and statistics to support their claims. “Stop lying! Stop lying!” one young man said. A plastic bottle of water hit the wall behind the monk, and campus police officers hustled the person who threw it out of the room.

Be careful with this one, he's brandishing statistics. "Don't statistic me Bro!"

I wonder if this this story hasn't been embellished somewhat.

Chinese: "The Dalai Lama's not the son of God; he's a very silly boy."

Western press: "Take that back heretic, everyone knows that the Bible says the Dalai Lama is the second coming".

 

[plarq]

It is actually a Chinese government plot to taint the image of oversea Chinese, thus forcing some of them back home. I guess.

 

[chauism]

Take it out of my country. Bloody inconsiderate house guests. I swear, if they want to tear each other apart, do it over there. Don't be bringing their problems into our country, we have enough issues of our own.

I somehow agree with you, but consider probably your country is the one that created their problems, what do you expect them to do? Remember the preemptive strike action Bush had for his personal crusade?

Check this article "Anti-China protests made in USA, not Tibet" by Gary Wilson.
http://www.workers.org/2008/world/anti-china_0424/

 

[RedRalph]

It is actually a Chinese government plot to taint the image of oversea Chinese, thus forcing some of them back home. I guess.

Please tell me this is sarcasm

 

[plarq]

RRW: no, we're the puppet of the state propaganda of communo-fascism.

They are working against Chinese oversea community to conflict with native population, in order to alienate lucky bastards who escaped PRC.

 

[BasketCase]

Okay, what's the big deal with China constantly being accused of various conspiracy-theory-level assaults on various facets of American life???

Normally I would dismiss such accusations out of hand, but several such threads have popped up in Off Topic in just the last few weeks--and all of them were started by different people, so it's clearly not just one deranged CFC member.

(Possibly SEVERAL deranged CFC members...... )

Edit: I should probably specify that I hate the Chinese government, and sympathize with the people stuck living in it.

 

[chauism]

It is actually a Chinese government plot to taint the image of oversea Chinese, thus forcing some of them back home. I guess.

Interesting, never heard this theory before. It really surprise me this time thought, I never thought those Chinese students can be this emotional and violent, no wonder why the Chinese government is trying to calm the nationalism down among its people in China.

 

[plarq]

Okay, what's the big deal with China constantly being accused of various conspiracy-theory-level assaults on various facets of American life???

Normally I would dismiss such accusations out of hand, but several such threads have popped up in Off Topic in just the last few weeks--and all of them were started by different people, so it's clearly not just one deranged CFC member.

(Possibly SEVERAL deranged CFC members...... )

Edit: I should probably specify that I hate the Chinese government, and sympathize with the people stuck living in it.

You won't sympathize with those mobs who loved the government (and do not acknowledge the oppression) and blame western democracy as "fake" "re-colonization of China" "split China". And throw stones at Carrefour, beat up people who shop in Carrefour, send death threats to dissidents, and so on.

 

[BasketCase]

Actually, one can sympathize with them too--they are merely brainwashed pawns of the evil Chinese government.