Christians STILL burning witches

[Bill3000]

Well, actually, the entire opposition to abortion is based on the notion that fetuses are as human as infants - a position that has just as much, if not more, basis in reality as the opposite.

Yes, I know, but my point was that the sentiment that they are is practically a religious one - not that it is tied toward any particular religion, but that it is considered a dogma that is taken for granted. Probably a better example would be the "life begins at conception" thing, which some sects, like Southern Baptism, indeed made it a doctrine of their faith, as opposed to one granted in empirical reality. Thus, for the most part, it is as pointless to argue about as saying "GOD EXISTS NO HE DOESN'T"

In conclusion, the only proper response to abortion posts are dead baby jokes.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I disagree . . . there is no real way to say when life as we understand it begins (clearly, even a zygote is a living organism) and I would be opposed to abortion even if I lost my belief in God.

 

[Bill3000]

I disagree . . . there is no real way to say when life as we understand it begins (clearly, even a zygote is a living organism) and I would be opposed to abortion even if I lost my belief in God.

I didn't mean religious in the sense that it is necessary to be religious, but in the sense that it is a dogma. Perhaps a good analogy would be communism vs. capitalism debates, which are often battles of dogmas as well.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Well, I would say it easily qualifies as a doctrine, but so do many other views of the morality of life.

I do think that the whole debate is pointlessly and hopelessly mired in semantics and rhetoric. On both sides.

 

[Bill3000]

Well, I would say it easily qualifies as a doctrine, but so do many other views of the morality of life.

I do think that the whole debate is pointlessly and hopelessly mired in semantics and rhetoric. On both sides.

Precisely.