Chronic depression: The cure

[Bozo Erectus]

A very interesting argument unfolded in the Hmmm thread, but it should probably have its own thread, because its definitely a worthy topic. Narz, if I understand correctly, you feel youve cured yourself of depression. That its not a treatment, but a cure. That would be a good starting point I think. I guess you could just copy and paste what you posted in the other thread. We seem to have strong opinions on the topic, so lez do it.

 

[Che Guava]

It's booze, dope and pornography, isn't it? I'm sure it is, but I can't seem to find the right combination...ah well, the research continues...

 

[Bozo Erectus]

It's booze, dope and pornography, isn't it? I'm sure it is, but I can't seem to find the right combination...ah well, the research continues...

Our best minds have been researching that for years, and the results are still inconclusive. Oh well, as you say, the research continues

 

[Che Guava]

Our best minds have been researching that for years, and the results are still inconclusive. Oh well, as you say, the research continues

Ah yes, it'd be funnier if it wasn't my life lately ..... ...

Seriously Narz, whaddya got for us!!!?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Not to put words in his mouth, but I think he's got good nutrition in store for us. Which I dont actually disagree with, I know for a fact that when I eat healthy, I feel better and generally have a much more positive outlook.

The difference is, I dont see good nutrition as being a 'cure' for depression, merely a treatment, and in many cases, should be thought of as just one component in the 'battle' against chronic, severe depression. Theres no ultimate cure though in my opinion, because depression is a part of who the person is.

 

[Babbler]

Right. Exercise and nutrition are good ideas in general. But it doesn't stop depression.

 

[Fifty]

If becoming like narz is what it takes to get out of clinical depression, I'd rather be clinically depressed (or dependent on mood drugs).

 

[Elta]

Can anyone give me the ballpark definetion of clinical depressin?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Babler, absolutley, good nutrition and exercise are good ideas, whether one suffers from chronic depression or not. In other words, no matter what our issues are, lets begin by feeding ourselves correctly. Cant go wrong that way. Its the best place to start, whether we've got cancer, depression, or whatever. Its common sense, but not a cure all.

If becoming like narz is what it takes to get out of clinical depression, I'd rather be clinically depressed (or dependent on mood drugs).

What, raw vegetables arent doing it for ya?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Can anyone give me the ballpark definetion of clinical depressin?

When youve got it, you know it.

 

[imperfect.la]

I've got it. It's hard to explain but I will answer questions if you wish to learn more.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Counseling can help some people. I know I was in it for a few weeks when I was told that I "definitely show signs of depression" and may "look at medication if counseling doesn't work." I dropped out after a few weeks because I was more interested in spending my time doing nothing.

 

[imperfect.la]

I have never received professional counseling but from friends and family. However, it doesn't help. Depression is irrational and no amount of counseling can change feeling like . .. .. .. . about nothing.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

I have never received professional counseling but from friends and family. However, it doesn't help. Depression is irrational and no amount of counseling can change feeling like . .. .. .. . about nothing.

I know someone who was depressed and said counseling really helped her out. I just blew it off because I didn't really care anymore.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

I've got it. It's hard to explain but I will answer questions if you wish to learn more.

Ok, Imperfecta, heres my question: What have you got?

 

[imperfect.la]

Ok, Imperfecta, heres my question: What have you got?

Though I have not been diagnosed, I do have what I assume is clinical depression: Feeling depressed about nothing in general (my average mood is depressed), little things will make you hate yourself for a week (for example, if someone calls me an . .. .. .. .. .. .. . or something). Having to drink or do drugs several times a week just so you can feel good. Perhaps it's all in my head, which I hope, but sadly it's more likely that it's not.

 

[Elta]

When youve got it, you know it.

Let me rephrase, as oppose to regular depression chronic depression is just a depression that won't go away right?

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Really, it's a weird thing. Part of you tells you that you can change it but you really can't, it's a losing battle. imperfect.la example of hating yourself for a week is so true. You get used to beating the . .. .. .. . out of yourself, blaming yourself for everything, and viewing yourself as a failure, while still demanding personal perfection. It's hopelessly unrealistic but I can't help it.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Let me rephrase, as oppose to regular depression chronic depression is just a depression that won't go away right?

It never goes away. At best, with drugs, legal and otherwise, you can make yourself numb to it, if youre lucky.

Really, it's a weird thing. Part of you tells you that you can change it but you really can't, it's a losing battle. imperfect.la example of hating yourself for a week is so true. You get used to beating the . .. .. .. . out of yourself, blaming yourself for everything, and viewing yourself as a failure, while still demanding personal perfection. It's hopelessly unrealistic but I can't help it.

Truth.

 

[imperfect.la]

Let me rephrase, as oppose to regular depression chronic depression is just a depression that won't go away right?

For example, imagine your girlfriend dumped you or someone called you ugly, you have every right to be depressed. It's a real reason, like your parents died or something. However, people like me will be depressed either over absolutely nothing, like right now I'm just sitting here typing a message to you but I feel like . .. .. .. . (and nothing provoked that feeling) and like I'm worthless. If a real reason for me to get depressed actually happens, it's like the average human response but a lot worse and would last a lot longer - and maybe not even go away. There are things in the back of my mind that just come out based on events that happened YEARS beforehand and are relatively trivial things. You also start rationalizing your depression when in hand it's completely irrational.