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Citizen Group: Communist Party

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game: Citizens' started by Nomad Bryce, Nov 6, 2005.

  1. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Alright, I need to explain that I completely disagree with State Property. State Property is such a bad civic compared to the other options. You can argue that it helps in a big nation, but Free Market's extra trade route and Environmentalism's extra health (Thus room for bigger cities) provide so much more income then State Property. Plus, state property in real life is a step towards a dictatorship, and in general should not be trusted. So in conclusion, I have nothing but disdain for State Property. We aren't Bolsheviks, we are CIV4 Communists, different thing, different methods.
     
  2. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    It is at this point that I must point out that Nomad Bryce is founding this party on his own. I now have other obligations so, in order to avoid a conflict of interest, I unfortunately will not be co-founding this new incarnation of the Civ4 commie party with Comrade Bryce.

    I wish him the best of luck in it,

    Peace,
     
  3. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Yes, sorry that I failed to point this out, but I wanted to give credit for that piece that you wrote.
     
  4. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    Like I said, it did have very nice formatting, but when I copied and pasted it, it was lost.

    Anyways, why did you choose the name, "The Workers' Party" ?
     
  5. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Because the Party favors Worker units, not neccesarilly because we are socialists (More capitalist if you ask me)
     
  6. Tompskij

    Tompskij Chieftain

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    Im against having free market. State property may not be the way real communism works but its still more in the line of communism then free market. Free market is when anyone can start a buisness and run it. In communism the workers controll it. If this party is going to keep free market as a civic im leaving :scan:
     
  7. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Yes, this is a party based on a peaceful strategy of cooperation, economics and technology. State Property does not fit into this strategy and is all around a poor civic. This party is not actually Communism (Although people disagree as to what communism is and everyone thinks they are right, when in reality, a word is just whatever definition we give it so they are all right).
     
  8. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Ok, clearly I have failed to clear this whole name thing. I like the name The Workers' Party because I believe that workers are the most important unit, but since this is being misinterpreted once more as being... Well being any givin definition of socialism, communism, or other ideology, I must propose a new name. This may sound like a COMPLETE TURNAROUND but really it isnt. I viewed the name Communist Party as Peaceful and Worker Based not as State Property and no Free Market. I now propose the following name. Quaker Capitalists (I live in the Philadelphia suburbs and have a strong admiration for the Quakers, their business dealings are very moral and well intentioned, truly a people to be admired)
     
  9. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Quakers throughout their history have been known to be very fair in their dealings, and very industrious and peaceable people. They are well known for their tolerance and pacifism. Perhaps this is the best name for the new Citizen Group. Perhaps though, people will misinterpret again that this is favoring a religion? If so they are silly. But some other possible names would be Peaceable Capitalists, Builders Party, Industrial Pacifists, blah blah, leave suggestions and comments.
     
  10. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    Peaceful Economists?
     
  11. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Thats good too, Although I do believe Industrial Pacifists sounds more sophisticated =]
     
  12. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    Yes I think you're right. GG. Are you going to start a new thread or are you going to rename this thread? I think a lot of the current members are incative so maybe a new thread?
     
  13. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    I agree, I will probobly start a new thread, but I've decided to postpone this until the new thread for parties is created, you know, for a nice fresh start, Hopefully with no confusion this time. And of course, I think I'll just ask members to trust me this time and declare myself Leader of the party with some method of disposing me if I'm "Out of Line" which I know I won't be. That way I can boot these inactive members, even though they make the party look bigger then it is. I'm not one for false inflation, and I prefer truely active people.
     
  14. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    Do you mean the new forum?
    If they don't like something they can leave, or form a splinter group.
    Yes, I'm sure it's irritating when people sign up only to disappear and never post again.
     
  15. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Yea, I meant the new forum. No need to make a new thread here when their is going to be a new forum anyway.
     
  16. CaliSurfer

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    Sorry for not being here much. I check in about once a week but I am still active. If you need any help Nomad just pm me. Also I see that we won't name ourselves after an animal but can we have an animal mascot like the IIP's Pip?
     
  17. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Yes, Cali, we are going to be having a doggie mascot. I have a cute Jack Russel Terrier named Penny that I was going to use, and his name is very apropriate since its a party dealing with money and the economy. lol
     
  18. koondrad

    koondrad Citizen Koondrad

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    lolorz. Congrats on your election victory Nomad Bryce.
     
  19. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Well, I have finally decided that the best name for the CP evolution party is either "The Industrialist Party" or "The Pacifist Industrialist Party" People who will be transferring membership, please PM me a vote on either of these two names. Thanks.
     
  20. Nomad Bryce

    Nomad Bryce Innovian UU Cannon Turtle

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    Well, with very little activity from this parties members, the name has been changed to Industrialists. I will only carry members over who are active in the demogame since I am assuming the others are sleepers. I will not be transfering Illini Rule because I assume he wants State Property from his posts, which the party will not be supporting. If you want membership Illini just ask, I'm just assuming you want out so correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone who doesn't want membership to the Industrialists just tell me and I'll take you off the list.
     

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