I just played my first game where I challenged the Loyalty model and paid the price. As Egypt, I had constructed a nice contiguous 7 city empire on a continent with two other civs. In a “what the Hell” move I tried to squeeze in one more city just over the boundary with Tamar’s empire. This was a disaster. Even employing a governer it rebelled in about 10 turns. Once rebelled I tried to take it with force, that failed as well. At turn 170 or so, musketmen had just come online so the Free city had a garrison of one. It kicked ass against Tamar’s inferior tech army. Thought I could take it with two musketmen of my own, but as the garrison died, they spawned more. It was around then I gave up and reverted the game to 160, before I had this hairbrain idea of one more city. Is this a normal experience? If so, how are you supposed to expand your empire once you fill the local contiguous space? I was playing for a Science win, so I was not keen on going to war with Tamra and being hated for warmongering.