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City State Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by God of Kings, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    This is a thread where we subtract three points to one city state but add one point to another city state. Note that each user can only hurt and heal once every 24 hours.

    Moderator Action: Site standard is 24 hours - Jon

    As a friendly reminder, please state a rationale for the addition and subtraction of points.

    1. As in other elimination threads, please only post replies that contain votes (wait until your next vote to comment on other votes)
    2. Yes, you are allowed to vote the same way any number of times in a row (after the 24 hours has elapsed each time); but please give a reason on each post, even if it's something like "for the same reason as above"


    Here goes:

    1. :trophy: Zanzibar
    2. :trophy2nd: Buenos Aires
    3. :trophy3rd: Auckland
    4. :trophy2: Muscat
    5. :trophy2: Kumasi
    6. Stockholm
    7. Brussels
    8. Carthage
    9. Geneva
    10. Hattusa
    11. Yerevan
    12. Valletta
    13. Jakarta
    14. Mohenjo Daro
    15. Kabul
    16. Amsterdam
    17. Toronto
    18. Antananarivo
    19. Nan Madol
    20. Granada
    21. Hong Kong
    22. Armagh
    23. Palenque
    24. Kandy
    25. Lisbon
    26. La Venta
    27. Jerusalem
    28. Vilnius
    29. Seoul
    30. Preslav
     
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  2. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 20
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 20
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 20 - 3 = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 20
    Seoul = 20
    Stockholm = 20
    Toronto = 20 + 1 = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 20
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 20

    La Venta's suzerain bonus is situational at best, while Toronto, despite being nerfed, is still very powerful (and I'm biased in favour of where I live).
     
  3. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 20
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 20
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 20-3=17 I tend not to send envoys to Militaristic City-States...
    Seoul = 20
    Stockholm = 20
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 20+1=21 It's nice to get inspirations for Civics
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 20
     
  4. XVeris

    XVeris Chieftain

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 20 + 1 = 21 (More military, more trade routes.)
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 20
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 20 - 3 = 17 (The bonus seems nice, until you realize you can't put the Relics anywhere, or have seen all the wonders.)
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 17
    Seoul = 20
    Stockholm = 20
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 20
     
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  5. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 21 + 1 = 22 (I must have it! I will go out of my way to defend them and drop envoy after envoy here)
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 20
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 17 - 3 = 14 (Their bonus is laughable and way too specific. I don't think I've ever suzerained them)
    Seoul = 20
    Stockholm = 20
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 20
     
  6. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17 (20 - 3) Passive religious spread is very weak in Civ VI, and the CS's entire ability revolves around it.
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 14
    Seoul = 20
    Stockholm = 21 (20 + 1) The largest bonus in the game towards passive great person generation, especially potent in combination with theater squares.
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 20
     
  7. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 20
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 14
    Seoul = 17 (20-3) a single eureka when you enter a new era? Not impressed.
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 21 (20+1) I'm a sucker for extra amenities, especially if I can kick my cities into ecstatic status
     
  8. DJ_Tanner

    DJ_Tanner Emperor

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21 (20 + 1)
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 11 (14 -3)
    Seoul = 17
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 21

    Love the ability to settle anywhere, Preslv is easily the worst.
     
  9. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Amsterdam = 20
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 20
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21 (20 + 1)
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 11 (14 -3)
    Seoul = 14 (17-3) = Ability is weak and often give you easily achievable Eureka's that you could get on you own.
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 22 (21+1) = Extra amenities are usually enough to keep my cities happy along with a few well placed ED's and it is extra gold which is always welcome.
     
  10. Japper007

    Japper007 Prince

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    Amsterdam = 17 (20-3) I never send foreign trade routes so this just does nothing for me... still, at least it's a Commercial CS so it has some use.
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21 (20+1) Just awesome, particularly if you stack it with the God of the Sea pantheon, also an Industrial CS so it wins by default
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 11
    Seoul = 14
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 20
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  11. oedali

    oedali King

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 17
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 8 (11-3) The most situational suze bonus - devs need to fix this
    Seoul = 14
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21 (20+1) So good for religious victory
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  12. gettingfat

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23 (22+1) ...ever has 50+ trade routes playing on TSL earth? So OP!
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14 (17-3)...who care about one more city to exert passive pressure?
    Kabul = 20
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 8
    Seoul = 14
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  13. Leyrann

    Leyrann Deity

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21 (20+1) Get those renaissance era maxed promotion units going!
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 20
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 8
    Seoul = 11 (14-3) What's the chance I get the eureka I won't get otherwise?
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  14. 4N4C0ND4

    4N4C0ND4 King

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 20
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21 (20+1) Great way to get precious culture, especially later w/o building theatre
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 5 (8-3) This needs no explanation sadly.
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  15. Orange1861

    Orange1861 Warlord

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 20 + 1 = 21 Amenities are always good.
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 20 - 3 = 17 I very rarely do city projects.
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 20
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 5
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
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  17. bbbt

    bbbt Deity

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 17
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21
    La Venta = 17
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 21 (20 + 1) Given the prevalence of commercial districts, ends up being a significant amenity boost.
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 2 (5 -3) Agree it's bizarrely specific.
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  18. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 22 (21+1) Amenities and production: check.
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 20
    Hong Kong = 17
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21
    La Venta = 14 (17-3) religious CS that is not Yerevan
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 21
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = 2
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  19. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = (20+1)=21 Useful if I have no Iron within my borders...
    Hong Kong = 17
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21
    La Venta = 14
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 21
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Preslav = (2-3)=0 And Preslav has been eliminated, it's a pretty weak and situational bonus
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 20
    Vilnius = 21
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
  20. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Amsterdam = 17
    Antananarivo = 20
    Armagh = 20
    Auckland = 21
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 20
    Granada = 20
    Hattusa = 21
    Hong Kong = 17
    Jakarta = 20
    Jerusalem = 14
    Kabul = 21
    Kandy = 17
    Kumasi = 21
    La Venta = 14
    Lisbon = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 21
    Muscat = 21
    Nan Madol = 20
    Palenque = 20
    Seoul = 11
    Stockholm = 21
    Toronto = 21
    Valletta = 21 (20 + 1) With a good faith source, this can provide a massive jump start to new cities, and if there's one building type that when you want it, you want it immediately, it's walls.
    Vilnius = 18 (21 -3) Like Seoul, this city state's bonus is often redundant, and it also benefits a rarer district type.
    Yerevan = 21
    Zanzibar = 22
     
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