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City-state elimination thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kimiimaro, Jun 10, 2018.

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  1. Kimiimaro

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    This thread is moderator approved.

    With the end of the world wonder elimination thread, it's time for another ëlimination thread to start. This time, the topic are the city-states. There was already a thread about city-states, but with R&F, several city-states got replaced and some got their abilities changed. Now it's time for round two!

    Rules:
    - Give a reason for your votes.
    - Vote roughly once per 24 hours. Voting significantly earlier must be explained.
    - Add one point, take away three points. Posts with missing upvote or downvote will be skipped.
    - Voting several times for same city-state is not forbidden.

    Fate of Antioch: Since Antioch (Trade) got unfortunately dropped and it was left unnoticed for several pages, it won't be counted among the results.

    1. Stockholm (Scientific) :trophy:
    2. Kumasi (Cultural) :trophy2nd:
    3. Zanzibar (Trade) :trophy3rd:
    4. Antananarivo (Cultural) :trophy2:
    5. Kabul (Militaristic) :trophy2:
    6. Babylon (Scientific)
    7. Muscat (Trade)
    8. Auckland (Industrial)
    9. Buenos Aires (Industrial)
    10. Nan Madol (Cultural)
    11. Valetta (Militaristic)
    12. Yerevan (Religious)
    13. Hatussa (Scientific)
    14. Geneva (Scientific)
    15. Brussels (Industrial)
    16. Palenque (Scientific)
    17. Hong Kong (Industrial)
    18. Carthage (Militaristic)
    19. Toronto (Industrial)
    20. Bandar Brunei (Trade)
    21. Granada (Militaristic)
    22. Kandy (Religious)
    23. La Venta (Religious)
    24. Jerusalem (Religious)
    25. Mohenjo Daro (Cultural)
    26. Lisbon (Trade)
    27. Vilnius (Cultural)
    28. Preslav (Militaristic)
    29. Armagh (Religious)
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2018
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  2. ChocolateShake

    ChocolateShake Chieftain

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    Tough to remember these sometimes :D

    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 20
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21 (20 + 1) - Amenities are always useful, and this is a unique bonus
    Brusseles (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) - 20
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 20
    Kandy (Religious) - 17 (20 - 3) - Seems to discourage exploration, might be good if you find it early or have a lot of relics
    Kumasi (Cultural) - 20
    La Venta (Religious) - 20
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) - 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 20
     
  3. BarbarianHunter

    BarbarianHunter Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 20
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brusseles (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 20
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 20
    Kandy (Religious) - 17
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21 (20+1) --- Kumasi early, Antananarivo late.
    La Venta (Religious) – 17 (20-3) --- I think of the Colossal Head as a half decent joke. That’s about as positive as I can get here.

    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 20
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  4. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 20
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 20
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 20
    Kandy (Religious) - 17
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 17-3=14 - I have to agree. I really don't see any reason to build Colossal Heads.
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 20+1=21 - I'll surely take these these unique luxuries!
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  5. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 17 (20-3) Not sure that monasteries are any better than colossal heads
    Auckland (Industrial) - 21 (20+1) So good for making coastal cities productive
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 20
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 20
    Kandy (Religious) - 17
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  6. Icicle

    Icicle Chieftain

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    Sweet, new elimination thread!

    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 14 (17-3) I believe this is the worst city state. Unique improvements tend to be bad overall, and this the worst of them. Even in a faith focused game it is mediocre at best.
    Auckland (Industrial) - 21
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 20
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21 (20+1) Double experience. Crazy crazy good.
    Kandy (Religious) - 17
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  7. Amrunril

    Amrunril Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 14
    Auckland (Industrial) - 21
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17 (20 - 3) In Civ VI, passive religious spread is very weak compared to active spread. A few religious units on either side are enough to eclipse this city state's effects. This is arguably the perfect example of a historically important city state, so it's disappointing that even its updated bonus is an underwhelming one.
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18 (17 + 1) This is situational and difficult to use effectively, but it's absolutely game changing when you do manage to do so, enabling culture and religious strategies that would otherwise be impossible.
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 20
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  8. Nigel_Tufnel2

    Nigel_Tufnel2 Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 11 (14 - 3) I have never healed a religious unit on a Monastery, I would rather have the extra culture after Humanism with Colossal Heads (La Venta) and the extra faith near forests/rainforests...
    Auckland (Industrial) - 21
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 21 (20 + 1) I play a lot of water maps - if there's no competition for this CS it gets insane!
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 20
    Yerevan (Religious) - 20
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  9. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 11
    Auckland (Industrial) - 21
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 21
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17 = 20 - 3. I'm downvoting this because of the confusing description. I still have no idea how it works so I basically ignore it. "For the highest active Alliance Level all your Theatre Square districts receive +50% adjacency bonus." What exactly does that mean?
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21 = 20 + 1. Being able to pick from any promotion for religious units makes this a must have for a religious victory.
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
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  10. Chefofrats

    Chefofrats Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 8 (11-3) The unique improvement is so bad I only ever built a single one, for the achievement.
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22 (21+1) Anything that boosts production is always every useful. Boosting otherwise weak water tiles is especially welcome.
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 20
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 21
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  11. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Warlord Supporter

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 20
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 8
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22

    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17 (20 - 3) I want control over when and how big my cities grow. An across the board boost to housing gets in the way.
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22 (21 + 1) Bonus culture? Yes, please! Particularly nice if you manage to get a couple of Harbour-City Centre-Commercial Hub triangles.
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  12. eleven11

    eleven11 Chieftain

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    Helpful CS Reference
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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 21 (20+1) - I've gotten 700 culture per turn in late game with this CS. When I'm deep into a culture win and this CS gets conquered I get very angry. Very angry, indeed.
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 5 (8-3) - Dog Pile.. and why not? Most religious CS suck (except Yerevan).
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
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  13. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 2
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) - 5-3=2 - Monastery is just very, very bad.
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20+1=21 - I'm a wonder lover. This CS is perfect for me.
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  14. BarbarianHunter

    BarbarianHunter Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22 (21+1) --- +2% culture per Great Person recruited adds up quick.
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Armagh (Religious) ELIMINATED --- The Monastery appears to be even more of a stinker than the Colossal Head! Incense please.
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 21
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 20
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  15. liv

    liv Warlord

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18(21-3) (I prefer having envoys in religious city states over industrial city states. Just don't build industrial districts or wonders either. If this city state is next to me I often just take it out)
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21 (20+1) (It is a science state and it gives great people point. One of the good ones)
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  16. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 20 - 3 = 17 (Weak bonus - I sometimes don't even have any trade routes on water and when I do they rarely get plundered)
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 22 + 1 = 23 (I have gotten insane amounts of culture from this CS - much better than I originally thought)
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 17
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 21
     
  17. ChocolateShake

    ChocolateShake Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22
    Antioch (Trade) - 20
    Auckland (Industrial) - 22
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 20
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 17
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 23
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 14 (17 - 3) - Agree with @BenitoChavez, what does this even mean? Doesn't seem good unless it means +50% per level of your highest active alliance level, and even then too many conditions compared to the others
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 22 (21 +1) - Mmmm.... Cinnamon...
     
  18. Rosty K

    Rosty K Chieftain

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    Auckland (Industrial) - 23 (22 + 1) - If this is in the game, this is mine! And Nan Madol, please!
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 20
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 17 (20 -3) - Projects? What projects? When I'm actually doing projects, this means I want them slower, not faster :D
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 17
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 23
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 14
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 22
     
  19. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22
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    Auckland (Industrial) - 23
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 17 (20-3) Not sure which special tile improvement is worst, but this one isn't good.
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 17
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 14
    Lisbon (Trade) - 18 (17+1) very helpful if going to war with someone with a bunch of caravels roaming the seas. Traders aren't cheap to replace.
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 23
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 20
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 14
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 22
     
  20. Icicle

    Icicle Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22
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    Auckland (Industrial) - 23
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20
    Bandar Brunei (Trade) - 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 21
    Brussels (Industrial) - 18
    Carthage (Militaristic) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 20
    Granada (Militaristic) - 17
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 20
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 17
    Jerusalem (Religious) – 17
    Kabul (Militaristic) - 21
    Kandy (Religious) - 18
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 21
    La Venta (Religious) – 11 (14-3) Same as Armagh, although Colossal Heads can be better with terrain and give a tiny bit of culture, they still aren't anywhere close to good.
    Lisbon (Trade) - 18
    Mohenjo Daro (Cultural) - 17
    Muskat (Trade) – 20
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 23
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Preslav (Militaristic) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) - 21
    Toronto (Industrial) - 20
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 21 (20+1) Buying your basic buildings and walls with Faith can be crazy stupid good for the right games. This is the best Faith CS and it isn't a Faith CS.
    Vilnius (Cultural) - 14
    Yerevan (Religious) - 21
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 22
     
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