Well, this is pretty awkward. I had obtained permission from the moderators for the next elimination thread to be about City-States. They're present in every game, they have extremely varied & powerful bonuses, and I thought it would be fun and enlightening to debate them in the format of an elimination thread. Not expecting the Ethiopian update to feature anything about city-states, I had set up and planned the thread to start today or tomorrow. And then the devs come out of nowhere with the Diplomatic Quarter district. From what we can tell, this will involve some sort of significant overhaul of the city-state envoy system: to quote lead designer Anton Strenger, "to prevent envoys from becoming too powerful, envoy bonuses are now tied directly to these two buildings [i.e. Consulate and Chancery]". So, this begs the following question: do people want to begin the city-state elimination thread, or wait until the update comes in ten days? For me, it seems silly to start right now, given that there's a potentially massive revamp to city-states landing in just over a week. But are you happy waiting for ten days without an elimination thread? Or maybe, if people (and moderators?) are keen for it, we could start a short one in the interim – but if so, what should it be on? Which aspect of the game is short/concise enough to be debated in just over a week? Some quick ideas I had include: - 'most enjoyable victory condition' (only 6 options); - 'best faction in Red Death' (timely, and only 10 options: but do enough people play it?); - any one of 'best great scientist' / 'best great admiral' / 'best great general' / 'best great engineer' / 'best great merchant' (21 options in each category, I think); - 'best class of military unit' (13 options, excluding GDRs and support units); - 'best natural wonder' (interesting, but probably too long at 34 options). Any thoughts / suggestions?