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City States Leaders for BNW [WIP Icon contribution hread]

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Creation & Customization' started by Nutty, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. Nutty

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    Ekmek requested that City States Leaders be revamped so the leader icons mesh better with Firaxis' art design.

    As suggested by sukritact, this is a place to divvy up the work and share what we're working on. I suggested splitting it up by alphabet, but perhaps it would be better if we "check out" a leader that has inspired us.

    sukitract also brought up the good idea that some prior work for civilization mods can be co-opted for use in this project. For example:
    FWIW, I've shared my full Photoshop project here (if you just want the simple template shared on the other thread, you can get it here).
    [EDIT: Actually, just use this circle frame to center the icon and ensure it looks good ON TOP of the circle layer, but turn the circle layer off when submitting.]

    The backgrounds for each of the leaders should be tinted to match the city state's trait:
    I've suggested we start on those labelled 'all' and 'G+K +' on the spreadsheet because the BNW leaders have not yet been finalized, but if you've got a great idea, feel free to run with it. The old leaders are not by any means set in stone, either.

    I've added a new column to the spreadsheet, "Assigned" to specify who is working on what. The asterisks on the left indicate which ones are done (or at least have a reasonable placeholder).

    Column 1
    Version City State Vanilla Trait G+K+ Trait Modern Country mihaifx's Leader New Leader Notes Assigned
    * all ALMATY Militaristic Militaristic Kazakhstan 1.Nursultan Nazarbayev 2.Janybek Khan knightmare13
    * BNW ANTANANARIVO Mercantile Madagascar 1.Andrianampoinimerina, 2.Ranavalona TPangolin/ Nutty
    * G+K + ANTWERP Mercantile Flanders, Belgium 1.Mary of Burgundy, 2.Robrecht III janboruta
    * all BELGRADE Militaristic Militaristic Serbia 1.Karadorde Petrovic janboruta
    * BNW BOGOTA Cultured Colombia Simon Bolivar [Fall patch] Leugi
    * BNW BRATISLAVA Cultured Slovakia Svatopluk Nutty
    * all BRUSSELS Cultured Cultured Belgium 1.Leopold II , 2.Albert I janboruta
    * all BUCHAREST Cultured Cultured Romania Vlad III janboruta
    * all BUDAPEST Militaristic Militaristic Hungary 1.Corvin Matyas 2.Stephen I janboruta
    * BNW BUENOS AIRES Cultured Argentina 1.Juan de Garay, 2.Eva Peron, 3.Jose de San Martin janboruta/ Leugi
    * BNW BYBLOS (Phoenicia) Maritime Lebanon Ahiram Leugi/ janboruta/ LastSword?
    * G+K + CAHOKIA (Mississippian) Mercantile Missouri, U.S.A. Birdman Nutty
    * all CAPE TOWN Maritime Maritime South Africa Jan van Riebeeck janboruta
    * G+K + COLOMBO Mercantile Sri Lanka 1.A. E. Goonesinha, 2.D.S Senanayake knightmare13/ janboruta?
    removed COPENHAGEN Maritime Denmark Christian IX [DLC Civ]
    * vanilla only DUBLIN Militaristic Ireland Daniel O'Connell [G+K Civ (Celts)] Nutty
    * vanilla only EDINBURGH Militaristic Scotland 1.James IV 2.James VI [G+K Civ (Celts)] LastSword
    * all FLORENCE Cultured Cultured Tuscany, Italy Lorenzo de' Medici sukritact
    * all GENEVA Cultured Religious Romandy, Switzerland John Calvin (Jean Cauvin) janboruta
    * all GENOA Maritime Mercantile Liguria, Italy Andrea Doria janboruta
    * all HANOI Militaristic Militaristic Vietnam 1.Phan Boi Chau 2.Nguyen Hue, 3.Trung sisters, 4.Ly Thai To, 5.Chi Minh Ho knightmare13/ davey_henninger?
    * vanilla only HELSINKI Maritime Finland Gustaf Mannerheim [G+K Civ (Sweden)] Nutty/ Hypereon?
    * G+K + HONG KONG Mercantile Hong Kong, China 1.Sir Kai Ho Kai, 2.Sir Charles Elliot, 3.Sir Henry Pottinger TPangolin
    * BNW IFE (Yoruba) Religious Nigeria Ooni janboruta
    * G+K only JAKARTA Maritime Indonesia 1.Sukarno, 2.Gajah Mada [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * G+K + JERUSALEM Religious Israel 1.Solomon, 2.David janboruta/ Leugi
    * BNW KABUL Cultured Afghanistan 1.Ahmad Shah Durrani, 2.Ahmad Shah Massoud, 3.Ahmad Abdali TPangolin/ Nutty/ LastSword
    * all KATHMANDU Cultured Cultured Nepal 1.Tribhuvan, 2.Prithvi Narayan Leugi
    * BNW KIEV Cultured Ukraine 1.Symon Petliura, 2.Yaroslav janboruta/ Tomatekh
    * all KUALA LUMPUR Cultured Cultured Malaysia 1.Tunku Abdul Rahman 2.Yap Ah Loy TPangolin
    * BNW KYZYL (Tuva) Cultured Tyva, Russia 1.Donduk Kuular, 2.Khertek Anchimaa-Toka Nutty
    * G+K + LA VENTA (Olmec) Religious Tabasco, Mexico 1.Ku Tu, 2.Po Ngbe Leugi
    * all LHASA Cultured Religious Tibet, China 1.Tsangyang Gyatso 2.Thubten Gyatso, 3.Songtsan Gampo sukritact
    * G+K only LISBON Maritime Portugal 1.Joao II, 2.Manuel I, 3.Maria I [BNW Civ] janboruta/ Firaxis
    * BNW MALACCA Mercantile Malaysia 1.Parameswara, 2.Abdul Halim Nutty
    * G+K + MANILA Maritime Philippines 1.Arsenio Lacson, 2.Jose Rizal knightmare13
    * G+K only MARRAKECH Mercantile Morocco 1.Al-Rashid, 2.Ahmad al-Mansur [BNW Civ] [Arabia] Firaxis
    * BNW MBANZA KONGO Militaristic Angola Nzinga Mbande Leugi
    * BNW MELBOURNE Mercantile Australia John Batman TPangolin
    * G+K + MILAN Cultured Lombardy, Italy Gian Galeazzo Visconti janboruta
    * BNW MOGADISHU Maritime Somalia Aden Abdullah Osman Daar TPangolin
    * G+K + MOMBASA Maritime Kenya 1.Ahmed Abubakar Mohdhar, 2.Jomo Kenyata knightmare13
    * all MONACO Cultured Cultured Monaco Rainier III knightmare13
    * BNW ORMUS Maritime Hormozgan, Iran 1.Afonso de Albuquerque, 2.Baha-al-Din Ayaz, 3.Bibi Minoo, 4.Imam-Quli Khan, 5.Qaboos bin Said knightmare13
    removed OSLO Maritime Norway Christian IV [DLC Civ (Denmark)]
    * BNW PANAMA CITY Maritime Panama Victoriano Lorenzo Leugi
    * G+K + PRAGUE Cultured Czech Republic 1.Bretislaus I, 2.Wenceslaus II, 3.Vaclav II janboruta
    * all QUEBEC CITY Maritime Maritime Quebec, Canada 1.Samuel de Champlain 2.John MacDonald janboruta/ davey_henninger
    * all RAGUSA (Dubrovnik) Maritime Maritime Croatia 1.Auguste de Marmont 2.Tomislav Nutty
    * vanilla/G+K RIO DE JANEIRO Maritime Maritime Brazil 1.Pedro I 2.Pedro II [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW RIGA Maritime Latvia 1.Karlis Ulmanis, 2.Bishop Albert, 3.Master Wenno, 4.Master Volkwin, 5.Gotthard Kettler, 6.Janis Cakste janboruta/ Hiram?/ TPangolin?
    * BNW SAMARKAND (Timurid) Mercantile Samarqand, Uzbekistan 1.Ulugh Beg, 2.Timur Tomatekh/ LastSword
    removed SEOUL Cultured South Korea Wang Kon [DLC Civ]
    * all SIDON Militaristic Militaristic Lebanon Jezebel Eshmunazar II Leugi
    * all SINGAPORE Maritime Mercantile Singapore Lee Kuan Yew TPangolin
    * BNW SOFIA Militaristic Bulgaria 1.Boris I, 2.Simeon I janboruta/ TPangolin/ LastSword?
    * vanilla only STOCKHOLM Maritime Sweden Gustav Adolf [G+K Civ] Firaxis
    * all SYDNEY Maritime Maritime Australia 1.Arthur Phillip, 2.Henry Parkes TPangolin
    * all TYRE (Phoenecia) Militaristic Mercantile Lebanon 1.Antigonus 2.Hiram I, 3.Pygmalion Leugi/ LastSword
    * BNW UR (Sumer) Maritime Dhi Qar, Iraq 1.Gilgamesh, 2.Eannatum janboruta
    * G+K + VALLETTA Militaristic Malta Giovanni Paolo Lascaris janboruta/ TPangolin
    * BNW VANCOUVER Maritime Canada 1.David Oppenheimer, 2.William Lyon Mackenzie King TPangolin
    * G+K + VATICAN CITY Religious Vatican City 1.Pius XI, 2.Pius IX janboruta
    * vanilla/G+K VENICE Maritime Maritime Veneto, Italy Enrico Dandolo [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * vanilla only VIENNA Cultured Austria 1.Franz Joseph 2.Maria Theresa [G+K Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW VILNIUS Mercantile Lithuania 1.Gediminas, 2.Mindaugas [Fall patch] LastSword
    * vanilla/G+K WARSAW Cultured Cultured Poland 1.Jan Sobieski 2.Casimir III [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW WELLINGTON Maritime New Zealand 1.Henry Sewell, 2.Helen Clark, 3.Richard Seddon, 4.Apirana Ngata [Fall patch] TPangolin/ daviiadams?
    * G+K + WITTENBERG Religious Saxony-Anhalt, Germany Frederick III janboruta
    * G+K + YEREVAN Cultured Armenia 1.Aram Manukian, 2.Tigrannes II Leugi
    * G+K + ZANZIBAR Mercantile Tanzania 1.Abeid Karume, 2.? sukritact
    * G+K + ZURICH Mercantile Switzerland 1.Rudolf Brun, 2.Matthaus Schiner janboruta/ TPangolin/ Krateng?
     
  2. janboruta

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    Alright. :)


    Here are the icons I have now. Some can be used in CSs different than their base civ, I guess. However, if possible, I would avoid duplicating too many icons, so people using custom civs wouldn't be confused (but maybe I'm overthinking a bit :) ).

    Links only, so we don't exceed the image-per-thread limit.

    Spoiler :

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/Civ 5 Art/iconmanuel.png
    Manuel I of Portugal - can be used as almost any Euro medieval/renaissance leader, my suggestion: Genoa.
    (mod by JFD)

    old: http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/Civ 5 Art/iconrobrecht.png
    new: http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconrobrecht2a_zpsac874759.png
    Robrecht III of Flanders, my suggestion: Antwerp.
    (mod by Moriboe)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/Civ 5 Art/iconterauparaha.png
    Te Rauparaha - Maori, doesn't really fit anywhere, but maybe with some modifications it would be used.
    (JFD)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/Civ 5 Art/iconharald_zpsaaa8ecfb.png
    Harald Fairhair/Haakon Haakonson of Norway. All Viking civs are there, but he could pass as Yaroslav or Oleg for Kiev.
    (JFD)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums... Art/Civ 5 Khazaria/iconbulan_zpsca87fae3.png
    Bulan of Khazaria - same as above (Kiev).
    (Moriboe)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums...Art/Civ 5 Hungary/iconistvan2_zpsd9ac9aa0.png
    Stephen I of Hungary - Budapest.
    (JFD)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconpiusix_zpsacf01684.png
    Pius IX - Vatican City.
    (JFD)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconshivaji_zpsef623914.png
    Shivaji of Maratha Empire. You would have to ask Pouakai or Sukritact for permission, but maybe he would pass as a leader for Colombo.

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconharappaleader_zpsf2d1d611.png
    Leader of the Harappans. Not sure if usable.
    (Tomatekh)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconezenri_zps99a691af.png
    Eze Nri - could work for Ife.
    (Moriboe)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconisienmwenro_zpsf73fb066.png
    Isienmwenro - it's actually a unit, not a leader, but it also is a candidate for Ife.
    (Tomatekh)

    http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a487/Jan_Boruta/iconeannatum_zps702e2675.png
    Eannatum of Sumer - leader for Ur.
    (Irkalla)


    The first 10 icons I could start working on soon:

    Belgrade (Karadjordje)
    Brussels (Leopold II)
    Bucharest (Vlad III)
    Buenos Aires (suggestion): Jose de San Martin)
    Byblos (suggestion: Ahiram)
    Cape Town (Jan van Riebeeck)
    Geneva (John Calvin)
    Jerusalem (Solomon)
    Kiev (suggestion: Yaroslav the Wise)
    Milan (Gian Galeazzo Visconti)
     
  3. JFD

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    @janboruta How about using your old Enrico Dandolo icon for someone else? With BNW, it kind of goes to waste. Also, the old Albert icon you did for Prussia, before Frederick the Great became leaderhead, could probably see some use.

    Spoiler :

     
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    Those would need a fair amount of work to look good in my current style, but they're certainly a good base. Albert in particular would make doing an icon for Wittenberg much easier.
     
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    I'm relatively accustomed to Libertadores now :p ... so I could make a José de San Martín...

    If you want an Eva Perón though, it could come in handy too.

    I also could modify my David Icon for a Solomon.

    And I'll try working on Pius XI
     
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    Didn't know there was one already, sorry about that, but yeah you're right... Will see which other to do. :D
     
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    I think he would be better for Buenos Aires (or it is just me that dislikes leaders from after WW2 in Civ :p). I have a base for icon for him now, but I bet you would know more about how to draw him.

    I thought about it yesterday, it is a great icon. :)

    Okay, here are my older icons adapted to fit new roles. Note the starburst effect and background matching the CS focus. I still have to convert my old Enrico Dandolo into Andrea Doria for Genoa. And if Robrecht III won't be good for Antwerp, I could also make Mary of Burgundy if I have the time.

    Spoiler :


    Antwerp (Robrecht III)


    Budapest (Stephen I)


    Ife


    Lisbon (Joao II / Manuel I - for G&K)


    Ur (Gilgamesh / Eannatum)


    Vatican City (Pius IX)
     
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    Hey, I want that border to show off the icons :p (found it on the first post, nvm)

    Amazing icons anyway! I specially like the Ife one.

    EDIT: are we having specific background colors for each type of city-state?
     
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    Yes. At least that's how I understood it. I decided to discard the icon's border color in favor of specific background color (more color = more visibility). A golden border looks better and doesn't break the art style too much.

    I'm using:
    Red = Militaristic
    Yellow = Mercantile
    Magenta = Cultured
    White/Cream = Religious
    Cyan or Cyan-green = Maritime

    So far I have represented all types, except for Cultured, so you can use it as a guideline :)

    And the icon for Ife is an adaptation of the leader icon for Nri Kingdom by Moriboe (I hope he'll release it soon :) )
     
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    Progress! (Not nearly as good as jan's yet, but gettting there)

    Spoiler :


    Tribhuvan of Nepal (Cultured)


    José de San Martín of Buenos Aires (Cultured)


    Solomon of Jerusalem (Religious)


     
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    Those are looking good, but if you gave them much more time and made them as good as Belzu or O'Higgins, it would be excellent :)

    I have three new of my own:

    Spoiler :


    Brussels (Leopold II)


    Geneva (John Calvin)


    Genoa (Andrea Doria)
     
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    This looks awesome; the artwork presented so far is fabulous.

    I wanted to make a few suggestions for leaders for city-states that don't currently have leaders listed:

    Mbanza-Kongo - Nzinga

    Samarkand - Timur

    Sofia - Simeon I

    Vancouver - William Lyon Mackenzie King


    And to gather up the other suggestions (which I agree with) in this thread in one place:

    Buenos Aires - Jose San Martin

    Byblos - Ahiram

    Kiev - Yaroslav

    Sumer - Eanaatum


    Oh, and I want to suggest Hiram in place of Antigonus for Tyre.
     
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    Loving the John Calvin icon.

    Ok... I think I'll make the following now:
    • Queen Nzinga for Kongo
    • Po Ngbe for La Venta (Olmecs named all their kings Ku or Tu, while Po Ngbe is a specifical name of a historic one)
    • Victoriano Lorenzo for Panamá City
    • Phoenician city-states

    I have a question for all the Phoenician city-states though, will we have a different leader for each, or only one for all?
     
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    Different leaders would be better, as the cities for some time were self-governing. We'll have Ahiram for Byblos (I'm doing an icon), Hiram/Pygmalion for Tyre, but I can't think of another leader for Sidon.

    This. But to make him different from Ahiram, let's call him Hiram I, with the numeral.
     
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    Ok, you go with Ahiram then... For Sidon: Eshmunazar II?
     
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    OK!

    So I've added all of the suggestions from both threads to the spreadsheet in the first post. All of the ones in italics are ones that I already created (and are included in the Photoshop template; note that a couple were made for Ynaemp and More City States support).

    As I mention in the other thread, I picked the title because the historical Olmecs aren't from La Venta, but Po Ngbe is fine with me! Po's mask is an interesting alternative to the La Venta stone heads.

    EDIT:
    I always wanted this to be a community project, so I don't want to step in and say how it's going to be (unless we reach an impasse). At this point, I think whatever we can do to make our jobs easier would be best. There's always time to go back and make it "better" if an artist is so inspired.
     

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