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City States Leaders II

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    City States Leaders II
    for Civilization V, Civilization V: Gods + Kings, and Civilization V: Brave New World

    Adds leader icons to city state screens, making it easier to remember who is who.

    This is an update to mihaifx's City States Leaders mod.

    Now with mod support
    with the CS Mods Artpack addon,
    for More City States, YnAEMP City States, Comedy Movie CS, and more!


    Mods have been posted on CFC and Steam!

    The Leaders:

    1. 2.
    Spoiler The Leaders :
    Column 1
    Version City State Vanilla Trait G+K+ Trait Modern Country mihaifx's Leader New Leader Notes Assigned
    * all ALMATY Militaristic Militaristic Kazakhstan 1.Nursultan Nazarbayev 2.Janybek Khan knightmare13
    * BNW ANTANANARIVO Mercantile Madagascar 1.Andrianampoinimerina, 2.Ranavalona TPangolin/ Nutty
    * G+K + ANTWERP Mercantile Flanders, Belgium 1.Mary of Burgundy, 2.Robrecht III janboruta
    * all BELGRADE Militaristic Militaristic Serbia 1.Karadorde Petrovic janboruta
    * BNW BOGOTA Cultured Colombia Simon Bolivar [Fall patch] Leugi
    * BNW BRATISLAVA Cultured Slovakia Svatopluk Nutty
    * all BRUSSELS Cultured Cultured Belgium Leopold II janboruta
    * all BUCHAREST Cultured Cultured Romania Vlad III janboruta
    * all BUDAPEST Militaristic Militaristic Hungary 1.Corvin Matyas 2.Stephen I janboruta
    * BNW BUENOS AIRES Cultured Argentina 1.Juan de Garay, 2.Eva Peron, 3.Jose de San Martin janboruta/ Leugi
    * BNW BYBLOS (Phoenicia) Maritime Lebanon Ahiram Leugi/ janboruta/ LastSword?
    * G+K + CAHOKIA (Mississippian) Mercantile Missouri, U.S.A. Birdman Nutty
    * all CAPE TOWN Maritime Maritime South Africa Jan van Riebeeck janboruta
    * G+K + COLOMBO Mercantile Sri Lanka 1.A. E. Goonesinha, 2.D.S Senanayake knightmare13/ janboruta?
    removed COPENHAGEN Maritime Denmark Christian IX [DLC Civ]
    * vanilla only DUBLIN Militaristic Ireland Daniel O'Connell [G+K Civ (Celts)] Nutty
    * vanilla only EDINBURGH Militaristic Scotland 1.James IV 2.James VI [G+K Civ (Celts)] LastSword
    * all FLORENCE Cultured Cultured Tuscany, Italy Lorenzo de' Medici sukritact
    * all GENEVA Cultured Religious Romandy, Switzerland John Calvin (Jean Cauvin) janboruta
    * all GENOA Maritime Mercantile Liguria, Italy Andrea Doria janboruta
    * all HANOI Militaristic Militaristic Vietnam 1.Phan Boi Chau 2.Nguyen Hue, 3.Trung sisters, 4.Ly Thai To, 5.Chi Minh Ho knightmare13/ davey_henninger?
    * vanilla only HELSINKI Maritime Finland Gustaf Mannerheim [G+K Civ (Sweden)] Nutty/ Hypereon?
    * G+K + HONG KONG Mercantile Hong Kong, China 1.Sir Kai Ho Kai, 2.Sir Charles Elliot, 3.Sir Henry Pottinger TPangolin
    * BNW IFE (Yoruba) Religious Nigeria Ooni janboruta
    * G+K only JAKARTA Maritime Indonesia 1.Sukarno, 2.Gajah Mada [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * G+K + JERUSALEM Religious Israel 1.Solomon, 2.David janboruta/ Leugi
    * BNW KABUL Cultured Afghanistan 1.Ahmad Shah Durrani, 2.Ahmad Shah Massoud, 3.Ahmad Abdali TPangolin/ Nutty/ LastSword
    * all KATHMANDU Cultured Cultured Nepal Tribhuvan Leugi
    * BNW KIEV Cultured Ukraine 1.Symon Petliura, 2.Yaroslav janboruta/ Tomatekh
    * all KUALA LUMPUR Cultured Cultured Malaysia 1.Tunku Abdul Rahman 2.Yap Ah Loy TPangolin
    * BNW KYZYL (Tuva) Cultured Tyva, Russia 1.Donduk Kuular, 2.Khertek Anchimaa-Toka Nutty
    * G+K + LA VENTA (Olmec) Religious Tabasco, Mexico 1.Ku Tu, 2.Po Ngbe Leugi
    * all LHASA Cultured Religious Tibet, China 1.Tsangyang Gyatso 2.Thubten Gyatso, 3.? sukritact
    * G+K only LISBON Maritime Portugal 1.Joao II, 2.Manuel I, 3.Maria I [BNW Civ] janboruta/ Firaxis
    * BNW MALACCA Mercantile Malaysia 1.Parameswara, 2.Abdul Halim Nutty
    * G+K + MANILA Maritime Philippines 1.Arsenio Lacson, 2.Jose Rizal knightmare13
    * G+K only MARRAKECH Mercantile Morocco 1.Al-Rashid, 2.Ahmad al-Mansur [BNW Civ] [Arabia] Firaxis
    * BNW MBANZA KONGO Militaristic Angola Nzinga Mbande Leugi
    * BNW MELBOURNE Mercantile Australia John Batman TPangolin
    * G+K + MILAN Cultured Lombardy, Italy Gian Galeazzo Visconti janboruta
    * BNW MOGADISHU Maritime Somalia Aden Abdullah Osman Daar TPangolin
    * G+K + MOMBASA Maritime Kenya 1.Ahmed Abubakar Mohdhar, 2.Jomo Kenyata knightmare13
    * all MONACO Cultured Cultured Monaco Rainier III knightmare13
    * BNW ORMUS Maritime Hormozgan, Iran 1.Afonso de Albuquerque, 2.Baha-al-Din Ayaz, 3.Bibi Minoo, 4.Imam-Quli Khan, 5.Qaboos bin Said knightmare13
    removed OSLO Maritime Norway Christian IV [DLC Civ (Denmark)]
    * BNW PANAMA CITY Maritime Panama Victoriano Lorenzo Leugi
    * G+K + PRAGUE Cultured Czech Republic 1.Bretislaus I, 2.Wenceslaus II, 3.Vaclav II janboruta
    * all QUEBEC CITY Maritime Maritime Quebec, Canada 1.Samuel de Champlain 2.John MacDonald janboruta/ davey_henninger
    * all RAGUSA (Dubrovnik) Maritime Maritime Croatia 1.Auguste de Marmont 2.Tomislav Nutty
    * vanilla/G+K RIO DE JANEIRO Maritime Maritime Brazil 1.Pedro I 2.Pedro II [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW RIGA Maritime Latvia 1.Karlis Ulmanis, 2.Bishop Albert, 3.Master Wenno, 4.Master Volkwin, 5.Gotthard Kettler, 6.Janis Cakste janboruta/ Hiram?/ TPangolin?
    * BNW SAMARKAND (Timurid) Mercantile Samarqand, Uzbekistan 1.Ulugh Beg, 2.Timur Tomatekh/ LastSword
    removed SEOUL Cultured South Korea Wang Kon [DLC Civ]
    * all SIDON Militaristic Militaristic Lebanon Jezebel Eshmunazar II Leugi
    * all SINGAPORE Maritime Mercantile Singapore Lee Kuan Yew TPangolin
    * BNW SOFIA Militaristic Bulgaria 1.Boris I, 2.Simeon I janboruta/ TPangolin/ LastSword?
    * vanilla only STOCKHOLM Maritime Sweden Gustav Adolf [G+K Civ] Firaxis
    * all SYDNEY Maritime Maritime Australia 1.Arthur Phillip, 2.Henry Parkes TPangolin
    * all TYRE (Phoenecia) Militaristic Mercantile Lebanon 1.Antigonus 2.Hiram I, 3.Pygmalion Leugi/ LastSword
    * BNW UR (Sumer) Maritime Dhi Qar, Iraq 1.Gilgamesh, 2.Eannatum janboruta
    * G+K + VALLETTA Militaristic Malta Giovanni Paolo Lascaris janboruta/ TPangolin
    * BNW VANCOUVER Maritime Canada 1.David Oppenheimer, 2.William Lyon Mackenzie King TPangolin
    * G+K + VATICAN CITY Religious Vatican City 1.Pius XI, 2.Pius IX janboruta
    * vanilla/G+K VENICE Maritime Maritime Veneto, Italy Enrico Dandolo [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * vanilla only VIENNA Cultured Austria 1.Franz Joseph 2.Maria Theresa [G+K Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW VILNIUS Mercantile Lithuania 1.Gediminas, 2.Mindaugas [Fall patch] LastSword
    * vanilla/G+K WARSAW Cultured Cultured Poland 1.Jan Sobieski 2.Casimir III [BNW Civ] Firaxis
    * BNW WELLINGTON Maritime New Zealand 1.Henry Sewell, 2.Helen Clark, 3.Richard Seddon, 4.Apirana Ngata [Fall patch] TPangolin/ daviiadams?
    * G+K + WITTENBERG Religious Saxony-Anhalt, Germany Frederick III janboruta
    * G+K + YEREVAN Cultured Armenia 1.Aram Manukian, 2.Tigrannes II Leugi
    * G+K + ZANZIBAR Mercantile Tanzania 1.Abeid Karume, 2.? sukritact
    * G+K + ZURICH Mercantile Switzerland 1.Rudolf Brun, 2.Matthaus Schiner janboruta/ TPangolin/ Krateng?



    • City States Leaders II (v 7 beta 5 (RC1)) - DOWNLOAD [or Subscribe on Steam]
    • City States Leaders II (compatible) (v 7 beta 5 (RC1)) - DOWNLOAD [or Subscribe on Steam]
    • City States Leaders II Modern Flags art pack (v 1 beta 5) - DOWNLOAD [or Subscribe on Steam]
      [inspired by Toft Flags and Modern Real Civ Flags.]
    • City States Leaders II (compatible) Modern Flags art pack (v 1 beta 5) - DOWNLOAD [or Subscribe on Steam]



      For mod support:
    • City States Leaders II CS Mods art pack (v 1 beta 6) - DOWNLOAD [or Subscribe on Steam]


    The old versions of CSL for G+K and vanilla are deprecated (CSL2 works for all CiV versions):
    Spoiler :



    If you don't like any of the city states, you can use this mod to facilitate manually disabling them: City State Selection by Gurra09 [BNW only]
    Or, for easy Steam versions to limit city states by geographic area, see the "Only..." City States collection by MattWhoPlaysGames.

    Photoshop templates: [if you want to add your own leaders; only necessary for the extra-compatible version or old versions of CSL]
    Spoiler How I use the template :
    How I [used to] use the template (your mileage may vary) [The following works, but I ought to update this sometime...]:
    Notice a "BottomG+K" layer and a hidden "BottomVanilla" layer that provide the alternate backgrounds to the template for each version of the game.
    1. Paste the new leader pic to a new layer, and move it between the 2 "Circle" layers, then size it appropriately.
    2. Extend the edges of your leader pic, if necessary, to go beyond the borders of the Circle by careful copying-moving-merging-smearing.
    3. Autoselect the middle of the circle (Anti-aliased, Tolerance 16), and then select the inverse.
    4. Set Refine Edge (Radius 0, Smooth 0, Feather 0.3, Contrast 50%, Shift Edge -50%).
    5. Then switch back to your leader layer and delete the selection (i.e., all of the excess outside the circle).
    6. Move the leader pic up a layer, above the "Circle" layers.
    7. Sharpen, or blur and sharpen edges, if necessary. Adjust brightness/contrast as necessary.
    8. For black and white photos, I give it an amber tint by adjusting the color balance (20, 0, -30 to Shadows, Midtones, and Highlights, give or take; don't preserve luminosity).
    9. Since I beefed up the circle just a tad with the shape layer beneath, I move the leader up one pixel--if you move the whole layer, remember you might have to delete a one pixel line on the bottom if there's any leftover from your leader pic crop.
    10. Convert to DDS (DXT5 or 8.8.8.8 ARGB) with the NVIDIA Plug-in.
     

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    CURRENTLY SUPPORTED MODS:

    NOTE: CSL2 now requires this mod for mod support [unless the mod includes its own art pack, such as Fictional City States], and doesn't work with the extra-compatible version.

    More City States by crawf0rd/JC [vanilla/G+K/BNW]

    Spoiler More City States :
    Column 1
    version City State Vanilla Trait G+K+ Trait Modern Country New Leader Notes
    G+K+ ABIDJAN Maritime Ivory Coast Felix Houphouet-Boigny
    G+K+ ADELAIDE Cultured South Australia Dame Roma Mitchell
    G+K+ BAKU Militaristic Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev CSE
    G+K+ BETHLEHEM Religious Israel Guy of Lusignan
    vanilla/G+K BUENOS AIRES Cultured Cultured Argentina Juan de Garay [BNW CS]
    all CASABLANCA Cultured Cultured Morocco Mohammed Sajid [Morocco (BNW)]
    G+K+ DHAKA Cultured Bangladesh Sheikh Mujibur Rahman CSE
    G+K+ DUBAI Mercantile U.A.E. Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum CSE
    G+K+ FAISALABAD Cultured Pakistan Benazir Bhutto
    G+K+ GIBRALTAR Mercantile Gibraltar Sir Adrian Johns
    all GUADALAJARA Maritime Maritime Jalisco, Mexico Nuno de Guzman
    all HAIFA Cultured Religious Israel Abba Hushi
    G+K+ HAVANA Militaristic Cuba Fidel Castro CSE
    G+K+ JOHANNESBURG Cultured Gauteng, South Africa Nelson Mandela
    vanilla/G+K KABUL Militaristic Militaristic Afghanistan Ahmad Shah Durrani [BNW CS]
    vanilla/G+K KIEV Militaristic Militaristic Ukraine Symon Petliura [BNW CS] YnAEMP G+K, CSE
    all KINSHASA Militaristic Militaristic Congo-Kinshasa Joseph Kabila YnAEMP both
    G+K+ LA PAZ Cultured Bolivia Alonso de Mendoza CSE
    all LAGOS Maritime Mercantile Nigeria Nnamdi Azikiwe
    G+K+ LUXEMBOURG Mercantile Luxembourg Grand Duchess Charlotte
    all MAPUTO Maritime Mercantile Mozambique Joaquim Chissano
    all NAPOLI (Naples) Cultured Cultured Campania, Italy Luigi de Magistris
    G+K+ NUREMBERG Mercantile Bavaria, Germany Maximilian von Montgelas
    all PERTH Maritime Maritime Western Australia Sir Charles Gairdner CSE
    all QUFU Cultured Religious Shangdong, China Kang Sheng
    G+K+ REYKJAVIK Mercantile Iceland Sveinn Bjornsson [Denmark (DLC)] YnAEMP both, CSE
    G+K+ SALT LAKE CITY Religious Utah, U.S.A. Brigham Young [America]
    G+K+ SANTIAGO Maritime Chile Manuel Bulnes
    G+K only SANTO DOMINGO Maritime Dominican Republic Leonel Fernandez
    G+K only SAO PAULO Maritime Brazil Juscelino Kubitschek [Brazil (BNW)]
    all TAIPEI Maritime Mercantile Taiwan Chiang Kai-shek [China] CSE
    all TEHRAN Militaristic Militaristic Iran Mohammad Reza Shah
    all THIMPHU Cultured Religious Bhutan Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck CSE
    G+K+ TORONTO Maritime Ontario, Canada William Lyon Mackenzie
    all TRIPOLI Militaristic Militaristic Libya Turgut Reis [Barbarian]
    G+K+ VANCOUVER Maritime British Columbia, Canada David Oppenheimer [BNW]
    all WELLINGTON Maritime Maritime New Zealand Henry Sewell CSE
    G+K+ YANGON (Rangoon) Militaristic Myanmar (Burma) Mindon Min



    YnAEMP City States (Extended) by Gedemon [vanilla/G+K]

    Spoiler YnAEMP City States :
    Column 1
    Version City State Vanilla Trait G+K Trait Modern Country Gedemon's Leader New Leader Notes
    * both AKSUM Maritime Mercantile Ethiopia Zera Yacob [Ethiopia (G+K)]
    * vanilla CARTHAGE Militaristic Tunisia Hannibal [G+K Civ]
    * both CHEYENNE (Sutaio) Militaristic Militaristic South Dakota, U.S.A. Dull Knife
    * vanilla CUZCO (Inca) Militaristic Peru Huayna Capac [DLC Civ]
    both DAKAR Maritime Maritime Senegal Leopold Sedar Senghor [Songhai] CSE
    both HARAPPA (Indus Valley) Cultured Cultured Pakistan Bhadra [Barbarian] CSE
    both ILE IFE (Yoruba) Cultured Religious Nigeria Ooni [BNW CS (Ife)]
    vanilla JAKARTA Maritime Indonesia [G+K CS]
    G+K KIEV Militaristic Ukraine Symon Petliura [BNW CS] More CS both, CSE
    both KINSHASA Maritime Cultured Congo-Kinshasa Joseph Kabila More CS both
    * vanilla LISBON Maritime Portugal Joao II [Portugal (BNW)] [G+K CS]
    * vanilla MADRID Militaristic Spain Isabella [DLC/G+K Civ]
    both MOGADISHU Maritime Maritime Somalia Aden Abdullah Osman Daar CSE
    vanilla ROTTERDAM Maritime Netherlands [Dutch (G+K)]
    * vanilla RABAT Maritime Morocco Yaqub al-Mansur [G+K CS (Marrakech)]
    both REYKJAVIK Maritime Maritime Iceland Sveinn Bjornsson [Denmark] More CS G+K, CSE
    G+K RIGA Maritime Latvia Karlis Ulmanis [BNW CS] CSE
    * both SAMARKAND (Sogdian) Cultured Mercantile Uzbekistan Amoghavajra Ulugh Beg [BNW CS] [Mongolia] [Barbarian]
    * both SIOUX (Lakota) Maritime Maritime South Dakota, U.S.A. Sitting Bull
    * vanilla TIKAL (Maya) Cultured Guatemala Pacal II [Maya (G+K)]
    * both ULUNDI (Zulu) Militaristic Militaristic South Africa Shaka [Zulu (BNW)]


    Fallout - City States by Masterhummel [vanilla/G+K/BNW]
    Spoiler :
    Column 1
    City State Trait Leader Notes
    Arefu Mercantile Evan King
    Arroyo Cultured Arroyo Elder
    Big Town Mercantile Red
    Broken Hills Mercantile Marcus
    Canterbury Commons Mercantile Ernest "Uncle" Roe
    Dog City [Denver] Militaristic Porter
    Freeport Militaristic O'Reilly
    Gecko Mercantile Harold
    Goodsprings Mercantile Trudy
    Junction City Militaristic John Levis
    Junktown Cultured Killian Darkwater
    Klamath Mercantile Slim Picket
    Megaton Mercantile Lucas Simms
    New Reno Militaristic "Big" Jesus Mordino
    Newton Mercantile Rodger Gaire
    Novac Mercantile Jennie Mae Crawford
    Oasis Religious Tree Father Birch
    Paradise Falls Militaristic Eulogy Jones
    The Pitt [Pittsburgh] Militaristic Ishmael Ashur
    Primm Mercantile Primm Slim
    Rivet City Mercantile Madison Li
    Tenpenny Tower Cultured Allistair Tenpenny
    The Den Militaristic Rebecca Dyer
    Vault City Cultured Joanne Lynette
    Underworld Mercantile Barrows


    Saints Row -- Steelport City-State by Vice Virtuoso
    [Note: The mod contains integration with an older version of CSL, but the CS Mods art pack updates it for CSL2]


    Asgard as a City State by hdarmy


    Atlantis City State by hdarmy


    Fictional City States - Comedy Movies by Nutty [G+K/BNW]
    [Note: Integrates with CSL2 without requiring the CS Mods art pack]

    Spoiler Comedy Movies :
    Column 1
    City State Trait Leader Source
    Wadiya Militaristic Sacha Baron Cohen as Admiral General Haffaz Aladeen "The Dictator" (2012)
    Zamunda Mercantile Eddie Murphy as Prince Akeem Joffer "Coming to America" (1988)
    Florin City Militaristic Chris Sarandon as Prince Humperdinck "The Princess Bride" (1987)
    San Marcos Maritime Woody Allen as President Fielding Mellish "Bananas" (1971)
    Parador Maritime Richard Dreyfuss (as Jack Noah) as President Alphonse Simms "Moon Over Parador" (1988)
    Genovia Cultural Anne Hathaway as Princess Mia Thermopolis or Julie Andrews as Queen Dowager Clarisse Renaldi "The Princess Diaries" (2001)
    Camelot ('Tis a silly place) Religious Graham Chapman as King Arthur "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" (1975)
    The Lost Planet of Magrathea Mercantile Bill Nighy as Slartibartfast "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (2005)
     
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    Good idea ! :D
     
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    [EDIT: I originally figured this could be a community project, but I didn't get a lot of input, so I ended up slapping the original update to mihaifx's mod together myself. Since then, many people have come forward to try to help make the art more in keeping with Firaxis' art design.

    I'm all ears if anyone's got any better ideas than the leaders that are currently implemented. See this and later posts for discussion about some of the original choices (though some have since changed). See the art contribution thread for later discussions. You're still welcome to add your two cents there, or better yet offer up some new art.]

    ...

    Here's what I've come up with after a quick and dirty crawl through Wikipedia. Discuss.

    vanilla:
    • Kathmandu: [EDIT: Maybe Tribhuvan, pic, instead.]
      King Amshuverma Thakura, pic, was the Licchavi king of Nepal in the sixth century AD (605-629 AD) of the Thakuri dynasty. He was learned, bold and farsighted Thakuri emperor of Lichhavi period, he was also a lover of art, architecture and literature. He built Kailash Bhawan. He was a brave king, fought many battles and extended the territory of his kingdom far and wide. A close relationship between Nepal and Tibet was established. He is credited with opening trade routes to Tibet...

    G+K:
    • Antwerp: Mary "the Rich" of Burgundy (Duchess of Brabant), pic #1 or pic #2, (13 February 1457 – 27 March 1482) ruled the Burgundian territories in Low Countries and was suo jure Duchess of Burgundy from 1477 until her death. As the only child of Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, and his wife Isabella of Bourbon, she was the heiress to the vast, and vastly wealthy, Burgundian domains in France and the Low Countries upon her father's death in the Battle of Nancy on 5 January 1477.[1], and was accordingly often referred to as "Mary the Rich".
    • Cahokia: [N/A - The Mississippians left no written record, but they revered the "Birdman" falcon warrior, so let's call him Birdman, pic. Excerpt: During excavation of Mound 72 [at Cahokia], a ridge-top burial mound south of Monks Mound, archaeologists found the remains of a man in his 40s who was probably an important Cahokian ruler. The man was buried on a bed of more than 20,000 marine-shell disc beads arranged in the shape of a falcon,[22] with the bird's head appearing beneath and beside the man's head, and its wings and tail beneath his arms and legs. The falcon warrior or "birdman" is a common motif in Mississippian culture. This burial clearly had powerful iconographic significance."]
    • Colombo: [N/A - I couldn't find any pics of the rulers of the Kingdom of Kotte, so we're going to have to go with another king of Sri Lanka who didn't base his capital there, but I couldn't decide on Dutthagamani of Anuradhapura, pic, or Parakramabahu I "the Great" of Polonnaruwa, pic. EDIT: Or a modern mayor, as Androrc suggests below: How about A. E. Goonesinha, pic?]

    ...
     
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    • Hong Kong: [N/A - This is a toughie. Apparently, the first 2 Chief Executives after the British returned Hong Kong to China were forced to resign, and the 3rd just took office this year. I don't want to pick a Brit. It's a stretch, but maybe Kai Ho, who was really just an intermediary]: Sir Kai Ho Kai, pic, CMG, JP, MRCS, (1859–1914), born Ho Shan-kai, was a Hong Kong Chinese barrister, physician and essayist in Colonial Hong Kong. He played a key role in the relationship between the Hong Kong Chinese community and the British colonial government. He is mostly remembered as one of the main supporters and teacher of student Sun Yat-sen. Kai Tak Airport, Hong Kong, was named after him and his son-in-law Au Tak, though he died in 1914, long before the idea of an aerodrome was first mentioned in 1925.
    • Jakarta: Sukarno, pic, born Kusno Sosrodihardjo (6 June 1901 – 21 June 1970), was the first President of Indonesia. Sukarno was the leader of his country's struggle for independence from the Netherlands and was Indonesia's first President from 1945 to 1967. He was replaced by one of his generals, Suharto (see Transition to the New Order), and remained under house arrest until his death.
    • Jerusalem: [It's either David or Solomon. I vote Solomon.] Solomon, pic, according to the Book of Kings and the Book of Chronicles,[2] a King of Israel... is identified as the son of David... and is described as the third king of the United Monarchy, and the final king before the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah split; following the split his patrilineal descendants ruled over Judah alone. The conventional dates of Solomon's reign are circa 970 to 931 BC.
    • La Venta: [N/A - Olmec. I dunno, let's pick a head, e.g., pic, and call him "Ku Tu" which means someone who is both local king and governor (since I can't find the name of a ruler of La Venta specifically). Excerpt from here: The Olmec inscriptions indicate that each Olmec town was ruled by either a governor or King, and that their was a recognized religious leader for the entire community (Winters, 1997). The Olmec King was usually referred to as Tu. The Olmec term for governor was Ku. Interestingly, some of the Olmec rulers were referred to as the Ku and Tu. This may suggest that the Olmec civilization may have been organized into a confederation of city-states lead by a recognized emperor. The Olmec emperor may have appointed the local government heads or Ku (governors). The fact that some Olmec rulers referred to themselves as Ku Tu, or both governor and King may reflect the Olmec Emperor's appointment of conquered Kings as governors over Olmec cities they formerly mastered as a result of divine right.]
    • Manila: [N/A - Which is worse, Marcos, pic... or the conqueror and first Governor-General of the Spanish East Indies, Miguel López de Legazpi, pic? Maybe someone safer: mayor Arsenio Lacson (but I'm not sure I can find a "free" picture, and was he a big enough "leader"?)]: Arsenio H. Lacson, pic [not free?], (December 26, 1911 — April 15, 1962) was a Filipino journalist and politician who gained widespread attention as Mayor of Manila from 1952 to 1962. An active executive likened by Time and The New York Times to New York's Fiorello La Guardia,[1][2] he was the first Manila mayor to be reelected to three terms.[1] Nicknamed "Arsenic" and described as "a good man with a bad mouth",[3] Lacson's fiery temperament became a trademark of his political and broadcasting career. He died suddenly from a stroke amidst talk that he was planning to run in the 1965 presidential election.[4]
    • Marrakech: Moulay al-Rashid (of Morocco), pic, (1631 – 9 April 1672), was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672. He has been called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
    • Milan: Gian Galeazzo Visconti, pic, (16 October 1351 – 3 September 1402), son of Galeazzo II Visconti and Bianca of Savoy, was the first Duke of Milan (1395)[1] and ruled the late-medieval city just before the dawn of the Renaissance. He was the great founding patron of the Certosa di Pavia, completing the Visconti Castle at Pavia begun by his father and furthering work on the Duomo of Milan.

    ... [continued at post #11]
     
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    I think it would be better if mayors were used for the city-states which have never historically been independent, instead of the leaders of the nations those cities belonged to.
     
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    Fair enough for the modern ones, but even then I'd have a real tough time picking them not knowing much about most of these cities. As far as the ancient ones go, there isn't much info in most cases, and certainly, and most importantly, no pics.

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    Note that I have picked some from some smaller political subdivisions, but I was shooting for regional governors (e.g., dukes), not city mayors.

    I'm shooting for the "golden age" of the city when it rose to international prominence, but where this happened because of colonial influence makes it tough to choose a fitting leader.
     
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    The availability of information on local rulers is indeed a very important concern, so I will give one suggestion that might help: Karl Lueger for Vienna.
     
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    Being Jewish, I'll admit to some bias on the point of anti-Semitism. Though there are plenty of flawed leaders in Civ, you're not going to see Pol Pot or Hitler. On the other hand, Stalin got a pass twice, and Mao 5 times--though notably, Mao was taken out of the Chinese release of Civs III and IV. Anyway, there's a controversy line drawn somehow, and I'd personally put Lueger--whether fairly or not--on the other side of being worth it. EDIT: (Same reason I didn't want to pick, e.g., Marcos.)
     
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    I've thrown together a few more possibilities. Again, these are after the result of very cursory research.
    [continued from post #6]...

    • Mombasa: [N/A - I don't know what to do with Mombasa. A modern mayor, perhaps.]
      EDIT: The current mayor? Ahmed Abubakar Mohdhar, pic #1 EDIT: or pic #2.
    • Prague: Bretislaus I (Duke of Bohemia), pic, (1002/1005 - 10 January 1055), known as the Bohemian Achilles, of the house of the Přemyslids, was Duke of Bohemia from 1035 until his death.
    • Valletta: [EDIT: Originally I chose Valette, but he died before the city was even finished. Maybe we should go with Giovanni Paolo Lascaris, pic, or Antonio Manoel de Vilhena, pic instead?]
      Fra' Jean Parisot de Valette, pic, (4 February 1495[?], Parisot, Rouergue - 21 August 1568, Malta), was a French nobleman and 49th Grand Master of the Order of Malta, from 1557 to 1568. As a Knight Hospitaller, joining the order in the Langue de Provence, he fought with distinction against the Turks at Rhodes. As Grand Master, Valette became the Order's hero and most illustrious leader, commanding the resistance against the Ottomans at the Great Siege of Malta in 1565, widely regarded as one of the greatest sieges of all time. He became Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller on 21 August 1557.
    • Vatican City: Pope Pius XI, pic, (31 May 1857 – 10 February 1939), born Ambrogio Damiano Achille Ratti, was Pope from 6 February 1922, and sovereign of Vatican City from its creation as an independent state on 11 February 1929 until his death on 10 February 1939. He issued numerous encyclicals including Quadragesimo Anno, highlighting capitalistic greed of international finance, and social justice issues, and Quas Primas, establishing the feast of Christ the King. He took as his papal motto, "Christ's peace in Christ's kingdom".
    • Wittenberg: Frederick III "the Wise" (Elector of Saxony), pic, (17 January 1463 – 5 May 1525) was Elector of Saxony (from the House of Wettin) from 1486 to his death. Frederick was the son of Ernest, Elector of Saxony and his wife Elisabeth, daughter of Albert III, Duke of Bavaria. He is notable as being one of the most powerful early defenders of Martin Luther,[1] Lutheranism, and the Protestant Reformation. He is commemorated as a Christian ruler in the Calendar of Saints of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod on 5 May. His court painter since 1504 was Lucas Cranach the Elder.
    • Yerevan: [EDIT: maybe Aram Manukian, pic, instead?]
      Robert Kocharyan, pic, (born August 31, 1954), was the second President of Armenia, serving from 1998 till 2008. He was previously President of Nagorno-Karabakh from 1994 to 1997 and Prime Minister of Armenia from 1997 to 1998.
    • Zanzibar: Abeid Amani Karume, pic, (August 4, 1905[1] – April 7, 1972), was the first President of Zanzibar. He obtained this title as a result of a popular revolution which lead to the deposing of the last Sultan of Zanzibar Sultan Jamshid bin Abdullah on January 1964. Three months later, the United Republic of Tanzania was founded as Tanzania, prompting Karume to become the first Vice President of the United Republic along with Julius Nyerere of Tanganyika as president... [Note he also remained President of semi-autonomous Zanzibar until his assassination in 1972]
    • Zurich: Rudolf Brun, pic, (1290s–17 September 1360), was the leader of the Zürich guilds' revolution of 1336, and the city's first independent mayor.

    EDIT: I'll go back and add Wikipedia's short description for them all.

    So, there's at least something for every city in the base G+K game, except Mombasa. Any more suggestions/critiques?
     
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    I think that the current mayor of Mombasa looks absolutely awesome, so he would be quite interesting graphically at least to add to the game.

    I liked very much most of the other leaders you've mentioned as well.
     
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    Yes, the mayor's uniform is very striking. :D
    EDIT: Sneak Peek! EDIT #2: (revised)

    Thanks!

    As far as "most," though... Are your concerns based on your earlier suggestion? Let me know which ones are specifically weaker.

    * * *

    To the community:
    :please: :help: I need your help! Yes, you! With your--as of this writing--269 views!

    I'd like some specific input. Obviously the ones I've put an N/A next to are tough cases on which I'd appreciate any input at all. I don't care if you don't know anything about the place; I'm clearly in no better place to say than any of you.

    :thanx:

    EDIT: Note I've converted the CS leader template to PSD and attached it to the first post.
     
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    The window topper template attached to the first post has been updated to mesh with the scrollwork of Gods+Kings. EDIT: See pic attached to first post for an indication of what I mean.

    I guess I'll just release a beta soon since it looks like no further input is forthcoming. Then you can all tell me how I got it wrong. ;)
     
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    The More City States mod wouldn't happen to be this mod in the steam workshop, would it? The author seems to be different, but the mod looks identical to me (albeit updated)

    If it is, then for Salt Lake City I suggest Brigham Young [pic], who was the first Governor of the Territory of Deseret, Prophet of the Mormon Church, and led the Mormons across the Great Plains of the United States to Salt Lake City

    For Guadalajara, how about Nuño de Guzmán who commissioned the founding of Guadalajara. Although he was attributed as a poor ruler, moving the site of the village countless times.

    For the In-Game City States, I did a google search and couldn't find anything on a man by the name of "Birdman". However, I couldn't find any Cahokian-born leaders either. The closest thing to a leader I could find was Henri de Tonti [pic], an Italian working for the French who lived among the Cahokians and attempted to negotiate with the Sioux Warriors who had come to wipe out the Cahokians. He was stabbed and nearly killed upon suggestion.

    For the Scenario-Specific City-States, for the Polynesian Scenario, Fiji, Ratu Seru Epenisa Cakobau was a warlord who united the Fijian tribes. He was also a cannibal.
     
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    HowAreYou: Thanks very much for the suggestions!

    It looks like crawf0rd/JC has updated his mod sometime in the last few weeks, but hasn't yet updated the CivFanatics thread. As far as "Birdman," see post #5. I've updated the tables on all counts (and added the "Into the Renaissance" Medieval scenario, which I inadvertently left out).

    In any case, I've got some betas to share in case anyone would like to give it a whirl. See the first post. I don't like Lhasa and Lisbon because the cartoon art doesn't mesh well with the others. I'll see if I can find something else for them. [EDIT: I'm thinking Thubten Gyatso, pic, and a different pic for Joao II.] I'm also thinking I may give all the black-and-white photos a colored tint. And I've got to clean up some edges.

    EDIT #2: Another idea: Should I do anything to highlight the different traits since the icon is no longer used? Perhaps color the ring around the leader or something? Perhaps I could also change the color of the trait readout below to match. I'm thinking Red for Militaristic, Gold for Mercantile, Purple for Cultured, White for Religious, and Turquoise for Maritime.

    EDIT #3: The colored ring doesn't work. It's either too subtle, or it looks tacky. Oh well, there is the small icon on the popups other than the first greeting, and there's the background pic. I may leave the color coding for the readout, though. EDIT: I did leave the color coding.
     
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    I posted some new betas, but the G+K one is bugged where some leader icons are appearing for the wrong city. I'll put up a new version soon.

    EDIT: I think the problem has been fixed.
     
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    FWIW...

    Enjoy.

    EDIT: Added some proposed leaders that crawf0rd sent in for his More City States mod. There's some controversial ones in there, but since it's his mod that it'll be supporting, I'm fine with them.
    EDIT 9/28/2012: Added some proposals for More CS of my own, including some potential alternatives to Ahmadinejad and Gaddafi.
     

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