Civ 4 vanilla or warlords rules

[SK138]

I have all the expansions and I have been playing a lot of beyond the sword, however, I was wondering if I could use all the BTS civs but play only with the rules from Civ 4 vanilla or Warlords and not have the espionage bar and some of the units introduced in bts.

 

[Balderstrom]

THat would need to be a mod - it might already be done. Basically it would just need to modularly add in the missing CIVs/UB/UU's into CIV4 & Warlords CustomAssets folders. As it stands now all the games are patched up to the same level, the only "rules" missing from CIV4 & Warlords should be ones that don't exist - due to the mechanic not existing (espionage, corps, etc).

 

[SK138]

I have been looking to see if someone made one but so far I haven't found anything

 

[Willem]

You can do it yourself if you wanted to but it will take a lot of work. There's lines in the XML of the later civs that don't exist in the original so you'd have to find them all and remove them. I tried it with Warlord one time and it was more trouble than it was worth IMO.

 

[r_rolo1]

Some BtS stuff would be itchy to put in Warlords or Vanilla. I'm talking specifically of the Portuguese UB, that is a substitue for a BtS introduced building that suposedelly magnifies a thing that didn't existed in Warlords or Vanilla....

Other issue would be how the non BtS AI would deal with things like Carrack, East Indiamen or Balista Elephant......

 

[Balderstrom]

The AI doesn't need more rules/programming to deal with new units - since all the units have a common basis: What is their STR, what is their Bonus VS, what do they do?
None of the UUs add any new functionality - its just alternate stats. Thus the code for how the AI handles units would not change.
Now the customs house would require code - due to it adding functionality: changing how much commerce is generated by trade that is "overseas".

 

[r_rolo1]

Yup.... for adding feitoria, you ( don't actually have to, but it is better for balance issues ) have to add costum houses as well and the concept of overseas trade, that does not exist in pre-BtS IIRC ( dunno if you should add what they do or what they are supposed to do ). Nothing too big, but clearly needs more than adding in the XML.

P.S I was rethinking this and reminded of privateers.... IIRC there was no hidden nationality in pre-BtS.

 

[JimTheGreat]

You can remove spies with the Eliminated Spies XML file from here.