I never play just vanilla Civ, I always use a mod. It always seems like the mods are what the game should have been. I am seriously hoping for a great mod like Total Realism for Civ 4, or the VISA one. Those are what Civ should have been from the developers. It seems like Civ is just the basic engine and that it takes players to make it what it should be. The truly frustrating problem with Civ 4 and mods are the memory leaks causing crashes. I really hope that problem is avoided with real mods like Total Realism for Civ 5, and no crashes. Till then, I think Civ 5 will have to go on hiatus and back to Civ 4 and Total Realism, and the crashes.