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Civ theme elimination thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by MantaRevan, Apr 9, 2017.

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  1. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    My thread about civ 6's leader themes got me thinking about what people's favorite songs in the game are. This game used to be pretty popular on the Civ 5 forums, the rules are that every 24 hours you add 1 point to one civilization with music you like, and subtract 3 points from your least favorite track still on the list. Each civ starts with 20 points. First song eliminated takes last place, and so forth. Alright, lets start.

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    Edit: April 12, 2017 10:19 PM US Central Daylight Time (-05:00)
    1. As in other elimination threads, please remember to give a reason for the votes.
    2. As in other elimination threads, please only post reply's that contain votes (wait until you next vote to comment on other votes)
    -- Jon

    Edit: April 14, 2017 6:44 PM US Central Daylight Time (-05:00)
    Rule clarification: Yes, you are allowed to vote the same way any number of times in a row (after the 24 hours has elapsed each time); but please give a reason on each post, even if it's something like "for the same reason as above"


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    1)- :trophy:Poland (Hej ide w las)
    2)- :trophy2nd:Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)
    3)- :trophy3rd:Arabia (Üsküdara)
    4)- :trophy2: Macedon (Tino Mori)
    5)- :trophy2: America (Hard Times Come Again No More)
    6)- Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)
    7)- Russia (Kalinka)
    8)- Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)
    9)- Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6 with original composition)
    10)- China (Jasmine Flower)
    11)- Scythia (Original composition)
    12)- Egypt (El Helwa Di)
    13)- France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)
    14)- Brazil (Brejeiro)
    15)- Kongo (Bananaha)
    16)- Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)
    17)- Rome (Magna Mater)
    18)- Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)
    19)- Australia (Waltzing Matilda)
    20)- Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)
    21)- England (Scarborough Fair)
    22)- Aztecs (Original Composition)
    23)- India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2017
  2. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 20
    Aztec (?)- 20
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 20
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 20
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 20
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 20 - 3 = 17
    Surely they could have done better for Japan, of all places? The Itsuki lullaby is discordant and annoying.

    Kongo (Bananaha)- 20
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 20
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)-
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 20
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 20 +1 = 21
    Firaxis has done this theme a dozen different times for a dozen different civilizations, but I never noticed until recently. I love the unique spin they give the Sumerian version of the song and how upbeat it is.
     
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  3. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Rome's theme is based on Magna Mater, Scythia is an original composition. Poland's theme is actually Hej ide w las. Persia's theme is not Morghe Sahar but based on Kereshme and Reng-e Shalakhu. and Macedon's music is based on Tino Mori.
     
  4. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    I'll edit the post to correct for that. Nice catch.
     
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  5. sadsquid

    sadsquid Warlord

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 20
    Aztec (?)- 20
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 20
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 17 (20-3)
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21 (20+1)
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 20
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 20
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)-
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 20
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    I've just never liked Scarborough Fair, find it annoying and gets old really quickly.
    The Greek one is awesome though, feels so epic, especially once you get to the Industrial and Atomic versions. Made me look into the Seikilos Epitaph too which was fascinating.

    Was hard to choose which one to boost though, there's so many terrific ones in there!
     
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  6. nzcamel

    nzcamel Nahtanoj the Magnificent

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 17 (20-3)
    Aztec (?)- 20
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 20
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 17
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 20
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 20
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)-
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 21 (20+1)
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    Great idea :)

    The Australian theme is probably quite exotic to many of you, but growing up in the "Australophere" means that I'm over it ;)
    So many good choices for who I like most, but my points have to go to Scythia, with it's foreboding tune.
     
  7. Goldflash

    Goldflash Grumpy Old Man

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18 (17 +1)
    Once a Jolly Swagman! This song is great. It's upbeat and catchy and fun and involves sheep thievery.

    Aztec (?)- 20
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 20
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 14 (17-3)
    Scarborough Fair is just such a dreary song. There are a few dreary songs in Civ VI but this is the worst.

    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 20
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 20
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)-
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 21 (20+1)
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
     
  8. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 20
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21 (20+1)
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 14
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17 (20-3)
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 20
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)-
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 21
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    Not that I don't like the Kongo theme per se, but I kind of heard it too often...
    Always been a fan of choros.
     
  9. upi00r

    upi00r Warlord

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 17 (20-3)
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 14
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21 (20+1)
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 21
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    +1 Always a fan of Arabian Nights and Prince of Persia and the theme is great.
    -3 I think there is no track I don't like but since I have to choose something... also The Aztec Empire deserves more glorious theme.
    * Added 20 for Rome since it was missing
     
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  10. King William I

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 20-3 (17)

    It's a good song, but it's use in prerelease FL's makes it weird without hearing civ descriptions

    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 14+1 (15)

    I know people don't like it, but it is a beautiful song (and helps but my baby brother to sleep)

    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany ( Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 21
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
     
  11. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Kongo's theme is actually called Banaha. Here are essentially the lyrics to Banaha:

    Sisi sisi dolada,
    Yaku sine ladu banaha

    Note that "banaha" means banana; I often call it the Banana song.

    However, I can't think of a song to heal or hurt yet.
     
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  12. MantaRevan

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    Looks like I accidentally went the batman route and put one too many 'na' in the song name. :p

    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 17
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20

    England (Scarborough Fair)- 16 (15+1)
    As a fellow Kentuckian, I'll come to Scarborough Fair's defense here. It's a really solid song, especially in the early game but suffers I think because so many people have heard it before. Sounds like it could have been from The Witcher or GoT.

    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20

    Scythia (?)- 18 (21-3)
    I'm going to penalize Zarya here because this theme is so drab and boring. Pales in comparison to Hunnic and Mongol themes from Civ 5.


    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 20
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
     
  13. nzcamel

    nzcamel Nahtanoj the Magnificent

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18 (17+1)
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 16
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 20
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 18
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17 (20-3)
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    I do love the soaring American theme from go to whoa; and the Spanish one is fitting, but a tad annoying.
     
  14. qadams

    qadams Bohemian

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 13 (16-3)
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21 (20+1)
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20
    Scythia (?)- 18
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
     
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    qadams Bohemian

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    I dislike "Scarborough Fair" so much that if England is in the game I'm playing, I'll turn off the music completely so I don't have to hear it.
     
  16. MrRadar

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 18 + 1 = 19
    Sorry @nzcamel! It's just that this tune stuck in my head so much, I might as well have been assimilated by some kind of Aussie Collective :assimilate:. Perhaps now they guide my hand into giving them one point :)


    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 13
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 20 – 3 = 17
    What can I say? -100 diplo relations, Peter, on account of 'I hate your tune'. Can't you find a different band of court musicians who would play something else? Ugh…


    Scythia (?)- 18
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
     
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  17. DJ_Tanner

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)- 19 + 1 = 20
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)- 13 -3 = 10
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Bananaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 17
    Scythia (?)- 18
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21

    Not that its 'exotic', but Waltzing Matilda is done fantastically and it doesn't hurt that the game is more fun when the civ is fun to play as well.
    Scarborough Fair is dull and begs for Spotify to take over.
     
  18. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)-20
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)-10+1=11
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Banaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 17
    Scythia (?)- 18-3=15
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
    Not really getting the hate for England's theme. I like the melody and I don't think it should be eliminated first.
    Scythia's theme while fitting, makes me want to fall asleep.
     
  19. WillowBrook

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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)-20
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 21+1=22
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)-11
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17
    Kongo (Banaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 17
    Scythia (?)- 15
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)- 17-3=14
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21
    I love Brazil's theme showing up every now and then in a game. But Spain's is just getting annoying.
     
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    America (Hard Times Come Again No More)- 18
    Arabia (Üsküdara)- 20 +1 = 21
    Australia (Waltzing Matilda)-20
    Aztec (?)- 17
    Brazil (Brejeiro)- 22
    China (Jasmine Flower)- 20
    Egypt (El Helwa Di)- 20
    England (Scarborough Fair)-11
    France (Tourdion: Quand je bois du vin clairet)- 20
    Germany (Ich hab die Nacht geträumet)- 20
    Greece (Epitaph of Seikilos)- 21
    India (Vaishnav Jana to tene)- 20
    Japan (Itsuki Lullaby)- 17 -3 = 14
    Kongo (Banaha)- 17
    Macedon (Tino Mori)- 20
    Norway (Gjendine's Lullaby)- 20
    Persia (Kereshme + Reng-e Shalakhu)- 21
    Poland (Hej ide w las)- 21
    Rome (Magna Mater)- 20
    Russia (Kalinka)- 17
    Scythia (?)- 15
    Spain (Recuerdos de la Alhambra)-14
    Sumeria (Hurrian Hymn 6)- 21



    This was a hard one for me. A lot of the themes sound great in the Atomic era, but annoy me in the early game. The worst offender for me is Japan. That early game flute drives me up a wall.

    I love England/Scarborough Fair in the Atomic age but not enough to save it, due to how the early game version grates a bit. The only song that really works for me in every age is Arabia.
     
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