So I was wondering what are your opinions on particular civs in order to check which could need a buff or nerf. I believe there are some very strong civs and some laughable and it should be balanced a bit. Of course we're talking about civs in the hand of human player.
What should be taken into account in my opinion is flexibility and being decent no matter conditions or RNG and strength of UA (15 points), UI/UB (10 points) and UU (5 points). Extra 2 points can be added if certain thing about them is truly exceptional. If you think this scoring is not balanced well, let me know, general idea was - UA is for whole game, therefore worth most, UI/UB stays with you after you discover, but sometimes comes late, UU is only for one era, max two.
Top tier:
Aztecs (13+10+4) = 27/30
Egypt (12+10+5) = 27/30
Poland (15+6+3) +2 solidarity = 26/30
Mongolia (9+10+5) +2 ger = 26/30
Indonesia (11+9+4) = 24/30
Carthage (13+7+4) = 24/30
Netherlands (12+9+3) = 24/30
Korea (12+8+4) = 24/30
Inca (12+7+5) +2 slinger = 24/30
Good:
Ottomans (9+10+4) = 23/30
Polynesia (9+10+2) +2 for moai = 23/30 and Im aware that moai should get far more points
Shoshone (12+7+4) = 23/30
Denmark (9+10+3) = 22/30
Greece (11+8+3) = 22/30
Babylon (11+8+3) = 22/30
Maya (12+8+2) = 22/30
Austria (10+9+2) = 21/30
Zulu (10+8+3) = 21/30
Average:
Ethiopia (8+10+2) = 20/30
Rome (8+8+4) = 20/30
Celts (11+5+4) = 20/30
Persia (9+7+4) = 20/30
Spain (8+8+4) = 20/30
Venice (12+5+3unique) = 20/30 MoV is too unique to rate it, gave it average.
Songhai (7+9+3) = 19/30
Below Average
Huns (7+7+3) = 17/30
Byzantium (8+6+3) = 17/30
America (5+8+4) = 17/30
China (7+6+4) = 17/30
Germany (8+7+2) = 17/30
England (9+4+4) = 17/30
Portugal (4+8+5) = 17/30
Arabia (5+7+4) = 16/30
France (6+7+3) = 16/30
Japan (8+5+3) = 16/30
Russia (11+2+3) = 16/30
Poor:
Assyria (7+5+3) = 15/30
Siam (6+6+3) = 15/30
Sweden (8+5+2) = 15/30
India (2+8+3) = 13/30
Morocco (4+5+2) = 11/30
Brazil (5+4+1) = 10/30
Any opinions? Is topic like that even necessary or are we happy with general balance?
What should be taken into account in my opinion is flexibility and being decent no matter conditions or RNG and strength of UA (15 points), UI/UB (10 points) and UU (5 points). Extra 2 points can be added if certain thing about them is truly exceptional. If you think this scoring is not balanced well, let me know, general idea was - UA is for whole game, therefore worth most, UI/UB stays with you after you discover, but sometimes comes late, UU is only for one era, max two.
Top tier:
Aztecs (13+10+4) = 27/30
Egypt (12+10+5) = 27/30
Poland (15+6+3) +2 solidarity = 26/30
Mongolia (9+10+5) +2 ger = 26/30
Indonesia (11+9+4) = 24/30
Carthage (13+7+4) = 24/30
Netherlands (12+9+3) = 24/30
Korea (12+8+4) = 24/30
Inca (12+7+5) +2 slinger = 24/30
Good:
Ottomans (9+10+4) = 23/30
Polynesia (9+10+2) +2 for moai = 23/30 and Im aware that moai should get far more points
Shoshone (12+7+4) = 23/30
Denmark (9+10+3) = 22/30
Greece (11+8+3) = 22/30
Babylon (11+8+3) = 22/30
Maya (12+8+2) = 22/30
Austria (10+9+2) = 21/30
Zulu (10+8+3) = 21/30
Average:
Ethiopia (8+10+2) = 20/30
Rome (8+8+4) = 20/30
Celts (11+5+4) = 20/30
Persia (9+7+4) = 20/30
Spain (8+8+4) = 20/30
Venice (12+5+3unique) = 20/30 MoV is too unique to rate it, gave it average.
Songhai (7+9+3) = 19/30
Below Average
Huns (7+7+3) = 17/30
Byzantium (8+6+3) = 17/30
America (5+8+4) = 17/30
China (7+6+4) = 17/30
Germany (8+7+2) = 17/30
England (9+4+4) = 17/30
Portugal (4+8+5) = 17/30
Arabia (5+7+4) = 16/30
France (6+7+3) = 16/30
Japan (8+5+3) = 16/30
Russia (11+2+3) = 16/30
Poor:
Assyria (7+5+3) = 15/30
Siam (6+6+3) = 15/30
Sweden (8+5+2) = 15/30
India (2+8+3) = 13/30
Morocco (4+5+2) = 11/30
Brazil (5+4+1) = 10/30
Any opinions? Is topic like that even necessary or are we happy with general balance?