Civ VII Weekly Reveal Guessing Thread

[RedCourtJester]

So, hopefully to lighten the mood after the 30 civs announcement (and really get at the spirit of what I was hoping my last thread would develop into):

There does seem to be some regularity of announcements week by week. We have observed Tuesdays to often be the preferred day to announce a new civ, often accompanied by their wonder and an associated leader later in the week.

The purpose of this thread is to be a casual place to post your predictions/speculation as to what we will see week-by-week.

Format for predictions, just to give us a bit of structure (though feel free to riff/variate):

Civ to be revealed
Civ's associated wonder, if any (some civs may not have associated wonders, might be an asymmetrical gimmick for some civs)
Civ's "associated" leader, if any (the idea can be as strict or loose as your speculation deems it, could even be a totally unrelated leader if you're feeling it)
Any other predictions for that week (symbol and color scheme, UUs/UIs, any additional information, whatever you're vibing with that week)

If you're undecided or think there are several possibilities, feel free to list them! Explanations can be as nonexistent or lengthy as you like.

I'll kick things off with my prediction for the week of October 15. Edit: After the early Mississippian confirm, I feel like I can pare down my hedge-betting, so I'm doubling down solely on Persia or Norse and no Vietnam.

Norse (maybe Persia)
Valknut (if Persia, Lamassu)
Heddal Stave Church (if Persia, Gate of All Nations)
Cnut (if Persia, Zarathustra)
Red on Blue (if Persia, Maroon on Purple)
Leader type: Military/Expansionist (if Zarathustra, Scientific/Expansionist)
I'm also going to predict that the Cnut RL comes with a teaser for the Normans, or the Zarathustra FL comes with a teaser for the Sasanid civ.

(and, I will say upfront these guys won't count toward any of my official guesses after this week (because Shawnee week)), standing until they are revealed (because of the uniquely special connection with bonus content Shawnee):

Mississippian
Monk's Mound
I still think this would be logically released as preorder content, so I'm standing on that hill as a gamble.

Edit: Mississippians confirmed! Preorder bonus as-yet unconfirmed.

I recommend everyone get final bets in (you are welcome to edit/change all you like) before about 15:00 Universal Time Tuesdays (11:00 AM EST, 8:00 AM PST), as a good number of uploads seem to be made at exactly 15:00 or 16:00 UTC.

FOR EASE OF FINDING AND QUOTING WINNING PREDICTIONS FOR MID-WEEK REVEALS, IF YOU CHANGE PREDICTIONS WHICH APPLY TO THE REST OF THE WEEK (I.E. BEFORE THE NEXT MONDAY/TUESDAY CYCLE) PLEASE QUOTE YOUR PREVIOUS PREDICTION TO REDUCE CROSS-CHECKING WORKLOAD. THANKS!

As a bit of incentive, and if people want, I am happy to go through and collect/highlight correct/partially correct answers as reveals come through!

I would hope this thread encourages people to change answers as they encounter new evidence, think new hypotheses through, etc. No one should feel locked into any calls if new data/ideas cause them to change their mind. Good empiricism and rational thought encourages updating models with the evidence/theories, and I think that should be encouraged, even in banal gambling threads.

Everyone, please be polite, there shouldn't be wrong answers here when we are only prospecting one week at a time. And have fun!

 

[Evolena]

I will opt for 2 Civs and 1 Leader next week:

Mississippian
Ashoka
Persia (or whatever their name)

(I may be influenced by the recent Steam actuality ^^)

 

[chaosprophet]

I like that you made it a generic title this time, opening up for everyone to participate on it. While I won't participate on the actual guessing, they just posted on steam:

The road to February is paved with more reveals! Next week, we’re dropping two new Civ Game Guides and another First Look. (Some of our more eagle-eyed fans may see at least one of these Civ reveals coming!) Stay tuned for more as we continue our countdown to launch.

Edit: Actually let me make a guess. The way she described about eagle look, make me think it may be the Mississippian (as I think she may be referring to those paying attention to the icon on Tecumseh first look). The other one likely another antiquity, but maybe an Exploration age game guide for one of the exploration civs already confirmed, as that would be more unexpected next (the way she mentioned one we would be able to guess make me think we would likely not guess the other one incoming).

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Since next week is my birthday week, I'm hoping Persia, with Gate of All Nations wonder, and then Alexander the Great as leader.

Maybe the Hanging Gardens to tie in both taking over Babylon? I originally didn't put that because I already thought they had a reveal video, unless they did and I'm forgetting?

 

[RedCourtJester]

I like that you made it a generic title this time, opening up for everyone to participate on it. While I won't participate on the actual guessing, they just posted on steam:


Edit: Actually let me make a guess. The way she described about eagle look, make me think it may be the Mississippian (as I think she may be referring to those paying attention to the icon on Tecumseh first look). The other one likely another antiquity, but maybe an Exploration age game guide for one of the exploration civs already confirmed, as that would be more unexpected next (the way she mentioned one we would be able to guess make me think we would likely not guess the other one incoming).

Good call! Recommending people maybe make two civ guesses this week if they are feeling frisky, but no pressure.

 

[Kulko]

Civ: Byzanz
Wonder: Hagia Sopia
Leader: Cyryll

I am convinced they will star revealing exploration age civs soon, so I vote for Byzanz.
IF they stick to antiquity its probably Babylon.

 

[Zaarin]

IF they stick to antiquity its probably Babylon.

Available evidence makes Babylon pretty unlikely. Mississippians have all but been confirmed; the final Antiquity slot appears to be either Assyria or Persia, with the latter being more likely. (I'm sad. I thought we were finally not only getting Assyria back but in the base game...)

 

[Wabnosa]

Where you finding Michi sipi confirmed?

 

[RedCourtJester]

Where you finding Michi sipi confirmed?

Mississippian Sun Symbol appears behind Tecumseh in antiquity:

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1fw6ib7/unannounced_ancient_era_civ

 

[Wabnosa]

The medicine wheel? I think maybe. Fingers crossed, I'll ask the ancestors for Michi sipi.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

I mean, is any other game guide roster than Achaemenid/other adjective Persia and Mississippi even feasible? I'd be really hesitant to bet against it. Leader, though... the most reasonable decision would be to say they'll prolly use the double game guide to tide us over while we get a first look for a leader already know the ability of, Amina or Ashoka. I kinda want to take a gamble and say they'll drop a Persian leader, but I also don't want to be wrong... Let's say Ashoka next week, and then if it turns out to be a Persian leader we can all have a good laugh at my expense.

 

[RedCourtJester]

I mean, is any other game guide roster than Achaemenid/other adjective Persia and Mississippi even feasible? I'd be really hesitant to bet against it. Leader, though... the most reasonable decision would be to say they'll prolly use the double game guide to tide us over while we get a first look for a leader already know the ability of, Amina or Ashoka. I kinda want to take a gamble and say they'll drop a Persian leader, but I also don't want to be wrong... Let's say Ashoka next week, and then if it turns out to be a Persian leader we can all have a good laugh at my expense.

I think this week may turn out to be pretty easy to guess (although there may be some surprises). I'm hoping the thread will get a bit more exciting in weeks to come.

Ashoka will be an interesting case. The good people of these forums have already pointed out "Ashoka, World Renouncer" as his name (not his title, like the other leaders shown in gameplay) is extremely likely to be one of two personae. So he may have been held off until the point that the devs want to more thoroughly reveal personae (unlike Cleo and Augustus, who were revealed within a week of the batch Rome/Egypt/Maurya/Maya/Aksum/Shawnee reveal). I have predictions as to who the personae are, but will hold off until I think their week is coming due to mention.

But of course given that personae are very much a mystery and could be announced anytime, next week is as good as any to predict an Ashoka drop!

And I hope we don't have laughing at anyone in this thread for guesses (well maybe for some clearly wild ones we can laugh collectively at the idea of). Commendations for correct guesses, though, absolutely!

 

[Dale]

the final Antiquity slot

I'm still not convinced it's an even 1:1:1 ratio on civs to ages.

There is no evidence of that ratio, and there is no requirement forcing that ratio.

 

[RedCourtJester]

I'm still not convinced it's an even 1:1:1 ratio on civs to ages.

There is no evidence of that ratio, and there is no requirement forcing that ratio.

I still am skeptical of the 30 civ hard limit, but what I will say is, if as people are claiming, there's no real throughline needed for any particular civ, they might as well release 10 equally as a matter of keeping options roughly equal across eras. Would kind of suck to have 11-12 civs to progress to exploration, but then only 8-9 in modern.

Whereas, contrariwise, the more to an extent we impose "guidelines" on civ paths, then I could see us starting with fewer, depending on whether the "web," as it were, tends to expand out, converge and reorganize, or condence inward.

 

[Dale]

There is no evidence either way, so it's pretty much pointless speculation.

 

[RedCourtJester]

There is no evidence either way, so it's pretty much pointless speculation.

Oh there's plenty of evidence already made public, certainly not none that no speculation could be had. We have civs, we have wonders, we have leaders. There's just far too much inference still needed on top of that evidence to form solid conclusions. Probably.

Both historical and scientific discoveries alike wouldn't get far if people weren't curious enough to extrapolate models.

 

[Dale]

Oh there's plenty of evidence already made public, certainly not none that no speculation could be had. We have civs, we have wonders, we have leaders. There's just far too much inference still needed on top of that evidence to form solid conclusions. Probably.

Both historical and scientific discoveries alike wouldn't get far if people weren't curious enough to extrapolate models.

There is no evidence if the ratio is 1:1:1 or some thing else.

You can't compare scientific discovery to this. This is all predetermined and done and dusted. You are guessing that's all. All you are doing is responding to a completely predetermined marketing plan to make you buy the game. A pawn.

 

[RedCourtJester]

There is no evidence if the ratio is 1:1:1 or some thing else.

You can't compare scientific discovery to this. This is all predetermined and done and dusted. You are guessing that's all. All you are doing is responding to a completely predetermined marketing plan to make you buy the game. A pawn.

Well by that logic, we all are pawns, then, including you. Who's to say whether the literalists (those who only only look within the confines of exactly what information is published) or the idealists (those who extrapolate or dream beyond it) are more "pawnish." I'm not sure how much that debate really contributes here, in a thread dedicated to fun guessing, when that same argument is going on in half a dozen other threads better tailored to it.

But yes, I will concur with you that there isn't any particularly specific evidence--other than a highly abstracted idea, based on very large-scale, almost emergent inferences of "fair/fun game design," of parity of player choice from in each era transition--that it is one way or another. I don't really care to belabor that issue here, though, since as I'm sure you agree we can't really know, until we know, what the full roster is.

Let me throw something out as a very, very early prediction as to that answer, a little, low stakes, end-goal gamble. I am going to cast a prediction that it simultaneously will be both 1:1:1 and yet not. I refuse to explain that answer now, so don't feel like you need to argue it with me. Just another thing people can call me out on being wrong on at some point.

 

[Nic@Melbourne]

Mississippian and Goths

 

[uppi]

Mississippian and a guide for an Exploration era civ which has already been confirmed. I pick Normans for the latter.