CIV2 IS Dead says PCG-UK

You should put in a link, dude. Civ-2 will never die!

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You know Tripa, you don't have to make the same topic in two or more forums!!! And one of them is probably going to be closed real fast.

BTW what makes you think that Civ2 is dead just because one person/magazine says so?? We are a multitude of people in here that almost to a man says that CTP2 is dead - so who do you belive??? The one guy who made a review or the 700+ people in here that all play Civ2 and not CTP2???
I think that you just want it to be true and now you have found ONE more that agrees with you, and just because he write to a computer magazine then it must be the truth!!.

CIV2 is forever...........



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[This message has been edited by shadowdale (edited February 26, 2001).]
 
You have to realize that Civ 2 isn't a game...it's an institution. As a game it is outdated. (It's over 6 years old!!!) But it's what binds all of us. It started the gaming revolution (well actually it was an upgrade to the game that started the gaming revolution) but it's still one of the most important games in history.

This reminds me of a famous DooM quote:
"DOOM shall never die, only the players."
Ray Davis

And this is applied to Civ 2 as well.

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An individual forms their own opinions through their own investigation. A sheep relies on other people (such as the review you linked us too) to form their opinions for them, as you've done Tripa. Don't expect any of us around here to agree with you, for this is a primarily CivII-based site (and most definetly a CIVII forum). By sticking with such an old game for so long, it should show you that we don't fall into the same "follow the pack" crowd that you reside in Tripa.

So, once again, you best take your threads about CTP to the CTP section. Next time we see one here in the CIVII section, it's getting moved.......
 
I got tired of waiting for the original article to come thru from future.net but I would strongly argue that Civ2 has been outsold by this poor clone.Can't imagine where those numbers come from.Perhaps the author means their household.

Heres' a newsflash:
Civ2 will never die.You can't replace chess with checkers.


 
Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CIVII FFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR

I don't care how many copies of CTP2 have sold, it doesn't change the fact that this was it's predecessor and is by far a better game. Nothing can change that NOTHING!

CIV will endure forever!
 
Tripa, I have no problem with you enjoying the shallow (opinion) game of CTPII, but do stop trying to force your ideas onto others.
Oppinion:
I believe that there are very few true Fanatics for CTP. It's just one of those games that go along with the rest of your CD's, but Civ Fanatics are truely dedicated to the game Civ2. There is a huge community of fans who love the game, and it's only growing bigger, after SIX years. CTP has just been out, and most of the critical acclaim is just the result of the surpise of a new Civ game. Civ is a classic, but CTP is only a current hit. Kinda like Dances with wolves compared with the Matrix.
 
Tripa you must smoke crack or something. CTP2 has so many bugs and defects in it that it's pathetic. It's not an opinion its a fact that it sucks. So does CTP.
Anyways i'm closing and moving this topic to the CTP2 forum

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Well, it must be close to the Armageddon. Lord, you know that I won’t fly by that lesson you taught me, to pull out my Wesson you brought me, and i’m not stressin’ it softly. Get ‘em up off me, ‘cause all we wanted harmony, been bombin’ ‘em. Yell up outta my ghetto, “I won’t settle,” get on my level.
 
CTP may be fine and dandy, but for someone who has been playing Civ (I) since it came out (when I had a little ol' 256 comp) I can say that I will stick by it!!! I am always looking for new games, but Civ is the ultimate, for its originality when it first came out to it massive following at this late date.

BheanSidhe
 
look i dont get any of use its ok for use to have your opinion but as soon as some one else does u all crack the horsehockys
well **** u all i dont give a horsehocky what u think CIV2 has been around for 6years
CTP2 has been around for 4 months
and already in 4 months CTP2 has sold more then what CIV2 has in 6 years


now hows that for popularity and I do not follow what ppl say i bout CTP2 day of releise and that was with all the bad reveiws so u have no right telling me that i follow the crowd when use say u continue to play CIV2 coz its the ppl u know

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Just because more people buying the game doesn't mean they're playing it. I think I'll save my money for Civ3

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I can't just sit back and let ANYONE delusional enough to say such a thing say this without providing some TRUE, DEEP facts!
HA HA HA HA
I told use all along but u didnt believe me, now i have proof that CTP2 is far supirior to CIV2, PC Gamer UK has said
"CIV2 'DEAD', CTP2 NEW KING
If u dont believe me, Check out this web site.
http://www.apolyton.net/ctp2/

Thank u for your Time
Tripa OUT
P.S i told u all along
I can see why you are called tripa! This is not a chosen name is it? This is a name that you have come to be accustomed to by people in your immediate life! Isn't it? You most certainly are ONE HELL of a TRIPA!!!


Call to power is the most pathetic game that has ever been made! It is not even original. It is a copy cat, a CLONE!!!

The game is FULL of bugs and the Civilization community is shattered with having spent money on this piece TRASH, and TRASH is exactly what it IS!!!

I played this game for months. I own a copy of it. I am speaking from first hand experience when I say that this game is pathetic! It is full of bugs that will never be fixed.

Here is Activisions OFFICIAL statement to the Civ community!


There are a lot of questions and speculation on the Apolyton message boards about Call to Power II, so we have decided to issue the following statement to clear some of them up.
When we began the design process on Call to Power II, we spent a good deal of time querying our Call to Power owners about what changes or additions they wanted to see in a sequel. Of course, there were thousands of suggestions from formal research surveys, informal message board posts, and one-on-one chats with gamers. But the majority of the requests centered around the following areas: diplomacy, combat, interface, customizability, and empire management. Our team set out to make a sequel that would address all of these features, yet would still remain true to the gameplay from the first game. We intentionally kept the graphics engine mostly the same because we felt that our graphics were, and still are, the best offered in a turn-based empire building game. We kept the setting the same because we felt that an actual historical basis would have more appeal than a fantastic or science-fiction setting. Many of the programming changes to Call to Power II may not be readily visible to the user, but in reality, most of the major engines were rewritten to accept the changes to the diplomatic, combat and empire management systems. Opening up the extensive customizability options required a level of complex code changes as well. As in all software development projects, some features from Call to Power were dropped or cut as the project unfolded, including PBEM and Hot Seat.

We have been reviewing the posts by various forum members calling for additional patches to make the AI more challenging for them, to add PBEM and Hotseat back in, and various other requests. These requests, which sound simple, are actually long, complex feature additions that would require up to 3-4 months of programming and testing time. This is not feasible, as the Call to Power II team is moving on to other projects. So there will be no additional patches, enhancements or scenarios coming from Activision. Additionally, there are no immediate plans to make an expansion or sequel.

None of these decisions were taken lightly, however, we feel that in the end, we have delivered a game that met the design goals of the project: an empire-building game that delivers new diplomatic features, more realistic combat, better empire management options, a new interface, and a customizable gaming engine to extend the life of the game. We thank all of you for your dedicated support and enthusiasm over the last four years. We look forward to seeing the results of the various mods and scenarios that the community is working on.

Activision

In short Activision has acknlowedged that they released a game BEFORE it was ready (for Christmas) and have said "Get stuffed, we have made our money. Fix it yourself"!


Tripa, if you sincerely believe your statement, then instead of quoting that garbage why didn't you quote this thread from Apolyton: <a href="http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum35/HTML/000954.html" target="new">(((PROOF)))</a>

Have a look at the deluge of complaints FIRST HAND, and NOT an article from a magazine!!!

MrLeN

P.S.You are mad!

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[This message has been edited by MrLeN (edited February 27, 2001).]
 
I just read the thread that the "proof" link refers to and WOW - Activision really screwed all CTP2 fanatics out there!!!
sh*t I would really be p*ssed if I had spend money of a game that is just abandoned like that.

I feel sorry for you Tripa



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I got both...civ2 is easier to get into and the presentation is ALOT clearer.

Haven't really played much

But the reason I bought call to power 2 was cos there are some cool mods 4 it.

As for it selling so well, more people have computers now dude...even stupid people.
 
**** this all i ever get in here is insults so use can all kiss my *** ive had it

and yes more ppl do have comps now so if Civ2 is so good y didnt they get it u wanka **** yas all sorry thunderfall but all ppl posting in here are wankas and they complain when i post in Civ2 so y do the ****s post in CTP2 if they dont like it

if i was u i would kick all ya ****ed up modorators and do it ya self coz they r all just as stupid as ya members

Tripa out for hopfully the last ****ing time in this ****ed up forum
 
WOW i dont even remember that but it sounded like it had meaning well ppl im back yes thats right and as long as ppl dont get on the wrong side of me i wont crack it again so if u dont like CTP i dont care if u dont like CTP2 i dont care if you do like em Hey i still dont care i just want to talk sivily, oh yeah by the way i have a feeling that u will soon be getting alot of CTP2 players signing up so instead of doing what u did to me why dont u try make them WELCOME hey thex
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CTP2 selling well? Then what does this mean?:
Last Quarter its earnings dropped 35%. However, Tony Hawk was not the 1-2 punch that hurt Activision. The 'CTP2' sequel, which was expected to match its prequel ‘Call to Power’, bottomed out selling less than 30 000 copies.
I got this information from your own link .
Try making sense and use less curse words Tripa.

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